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| I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it. |
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| dogsnhorses - 2018-06-24 1:22 PM
I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it.
I have been feeding forco for over 25 years. I just started renew gold about 6 months ago. I asked winwillows just yesterday if Renew gold covers the pre biotics that my horses need. He said YES it does unless you are feeding certain types of Bermuda hay. I do not and will not feed Bermuda so forco is no longer needed. |
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| I feed Renew Gold, about 1/4 cup of Max E Glo and Alfalfa. Is this okay?
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Location: Willows, CA | cstone - 2018-06-24 9:54 PM
I feed Renew Gold, about 1/4 cup of Max E Glo and Alfalfa. Is this okay?
As long as the rice bran is properly stabilized, natural Glo, MaxE Glo or Satin Finish, it is fine to feed with Renew Gold. When feeding low energy hay, that would be a better option than adding any additional grain. |
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Location: Georgia | FLITASTIC - 2018-06-24 6:30 PM
dogsnhorses - 2018-06-24 1:22 PM
I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it.
I have been feeding forco for over 25 years. I just started renew gold about 6 months ago. I asked winwillows just yesterday if Renew gold covers the pre biotics that my horses need. He said YES it does unless you are feeding certain types of Bermuda hay. I do not and will not feed Bermuda so forco is no longer needed.
Curious. What difference does the Bermuda hay make? |
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| mandita8907 - 2018-06-25 12:32 PM
FLITASTIC - 2018-06-24 6:30 PM
dogsnhorses - 2018-06-24 1:22 PM
I am feeding Renew Gold and Forco. Wondering if Renew Gold has the prebiotic already in it.
I have been feeding forco for over 25 years. I just started renew gold about 6 months ago. I asked winwillows just yesterday if Renew gold covers the pre biotics that my horses need. He said YES it does unless you are feeding certain types of Bermuda hay. I do not and will not feed Bermuda so forco is no longer needed.
Curious. What difference does the Bermuda hay make?
Bermuda is a LOT harder for horses to digest. Probably why it tends to ball up and can cause impactions. The forco beefs up the system to break it down even better. |
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| Question regarding pure Rice Bran Oil, is this better than feeding Cocosoya? My tractor supply carries both, I already feed RG, but picked up cocosoya as well, I see the pure rice bran oil is $30/gall and 100% fat. I've never fed it so curious to those that do if you like? |
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Location: Willows, CA | Wild1 - 2018-06-25 6:12 PM
Question regarding pure Rice Bran Oil, is this better than feeding Cocosoya? My tractor supply carries both, I already feed RG, but picked up cocosoya as well, I see the pure rice bran oil is $30/gall and 100% fat. I've never fed it so curious to those that do if you like?
Cocosoya oil is a combination of Soybean oil and Coconut oil. There are several reasons that they are blended. First, Soybean oil is inexpensive and can make up the majority of the product while selling at a premium. Second, Coconut oil is a solid at room temp (72 degrees), so blending it can keep it in a mostly liquid form for ease of use, especially in cold weather. All the vegetable oils are 100% fat, and provide similar calories, about 2.25 times the calories found in the same amount of protein or carbohydrates. There are differences in other micronutrients found if various vegetable oils and these vary by the way that they are refined. Most commercial oils are solvent extracted and almost completely stripped of vitamins and other naturally occurring nutrients. Rice oil, if expeller extracted and unrefined, is full of good stuff. Coconut oil has very unique anti fungal and anti bacterial properties in its purest states. Some horses show sensitivities to Soybeans and may to Soybean oil. Almost all Soybean oil is solvent extracted, as is most corn oil. I do not use straight refined oil as a daily additive on top of the diets that I do. Your results may vary.
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| So Win, do you recommend using any oil in the diet? I use Bluebonnet Stride Shine. I give only a little bit to disguise any supplements. I have also been trying out the Hemp Seed Meal. I tried the Hemp Seed oil and they didn't go for that at all. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Sandok - 2018-06-26 9:15 AM
So Win, do you recommend using any oil in the diet? I use Bluebonnet Stride Shine. I give only a little bit to disguise any supplements. I have also been trying out the Hemp Seed Meal. I tried the Hemp Seed oil and they didn't go for that at all.
I typically do not use refined oils added on top of feed in any significant amount. A little is fine. I just don’t add a cup at a time. Hemp oil is interesting and my prove to add value depending on how it is refined, and how far that refinement goes. Hemp protein also shows potential value. Corn oil, soybean oil, are simply calorie sources, but almost all is solvent extracted which I would rather not use. |
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| Thanks Win. I take the Hemp Oil or CBD Oil myself and have seen amazing results. I am hoping that they will continue research on the Hemp for horses. So far I have just started my quest. I am hoping to have the same results on my horses as I have on me. But if you can't get a horse to eat it, it is not going to do much good. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | I feed Hemp Oil and the meal to my horses, I also use Hemp oil, Hemp meal and the CBD myself. My horses lick there pans, but I did start out adding it to Alfalfa pellets. The Hemp produacts I use is out of Canada.
Hemp seed oil is cold-pressed. Cold pressed oils, also known as cold expeller pressed oil, have been mechanically pressed from the fatty portions of the botanical while ensuring that the maximum temperature (caused by friction) does not exceed 120 degrees. This method preserves the natural antiodants like vitamin E and vitamin A as beta carotene. Corn oil, soy oil, and canola oil are heat processed at temps as high as 180 degrees and then put through a hexane solvent bath. Hexane is a by-product of crude petroleum and is classified as a neurotoxin. The oils are then neutralized with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide). The next stage of processing is bleaching which removes chlorophyll and the carotenoid. The final process is deodorization, which uses pressurized steam at 500 degrees or more. Because nature's antioxidants like vitamin E and beta carotene are destroyed in this process, additives like BHT and BHA are then added to the oil to provide stability.
Hemp seed oil is a unique oil in that contains all the identified essential fatty acids. But what really sets Hemp seed oil apart from the other oils is that it provides GLA: Gamma Linolenic acid.
Hemp protein fiber, a complete, gluten free, alkaline forming plant protein with all 10 essential amino acids which are 65% highest quality globulin, edestin, and albumin-type protein which supports immune function, is easily degestible, and has no enzyme inhibitors like nuts, grains and legumes.
To lean more about this amazing plant products go to FB and North American Hemp Products.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | skye - 2018-06-26 11:06 PM
I feed Hemp Oil and the meal to my horses, I also use Hemp oil, Hemp meal and the CBD myself. My horses lick there pans, but I did start out adding it to Alfalfa pellets.  The Hemp produacts I use is out of Canada.Â
Hemp seed oil is cold-pressed. Cold pressed oils, also known as cold expeller pressed oil, have been mechanically pressed from the fatty portions of the botanical while ensuring that the maximum temperature (caused by friction) does not exceed 120 degrees. This method preserves the natural antiodants like vitamin E and vitamin A as beta carotene. Corn oil, soy oil, and canola oil are heat processed at temps as high as 180 degrees and then put through a hexane solvent bath. Hexane is a by-product of crude petroleum and is classified as a neurotoxin. The oils are then neutralized with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide). The next stage of processing is bleaching which removes chlorophyll and the carotenoid. The final process is deodorization, which uses pressurized steam at 500 degrees or more. Because nature's antioxidants like vitamin E and beta carotene are destroyed in this process, additives like BHT and BHA are then added to the oil to provide stability.
Hemp seed oil is a unique oil in that contains all the identified essential fatty acids. But what really sets Hemp seed oil apart from the other oils is that it provides GLA: Gamma Linolenic acid.Â
Hemp protein fiber, a complete, gluten free, alkaline forming plant protein with all 10 essential amino acids which are 65% highest quality globulin, edestin, and albumin-type protein which supports immune function, is easily degestible, and has no enzyme inhibitors like nuts, grains and legumes.
To lean more about this amazing plant products go to FB and North American Hemp Products.
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Looking at that website, most of the posts are by Dr. Schell who also does Cur-ost products I believe. |
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| I can't find where to order from them. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Sandok - 2018-06-27 10:42 AM
I can't find where to order from them.
Are you referring to the hemp products?
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Location: Gainesville, TX | oija - 2018-06-27 10:17 AM
skye - 2018-06-26 11:06 PM
I feed Hemp Oil and the meal to my horses, I also use Hemp oil, Hemp meal and the CBD myself. My horses lick there pans, but I did start out adding it to Alfalfa pellets.  The Hemp produacts I use is out of Canada.Â
Hemp seed oil is cold-pressed. Cold pressed oils, also known as cold expeller pressed oil, have been mechanically pressed from the fatty portions of the botanical while ensuring that the maximum temperature (caused by friction) does not exceed 120 degrees. This method preserves the natural antiodants like vitamin E and vitamin A as beta carotene. Corn oil, soy oil, and canola oil are heat processed at temps as high as 180 degrees and then put through a hexane solvent bath. Hexane is a by-product of crude petroleum and is classified as a neurotoxin. The oils are then neutralized with caustic soda (sodium hydroxide). The next stage of processing is bleaching which removes chlorophyll and the carotenoid. The final process is deodorization, which uses pressurized steam at 500 degrees or more. Because nature's antioxidants like vitamin E and beta carotene are destroyed in this process, additives like BHT and BHA are then added to the oil to provide stability.
Hemp seed oil is a unique oil in that contains all the identified essential fatty acids. But what really sets Hemp seed oil apart from the other oils is that it provides GLA: Gamma Linolenic acid.Â
Hemp protein fiber, a complete, gluten free, alkaline forming plant protein with all 10 essential amino acids which are 65% highest quality globulin, edestin, and albumin-type protein which supports immune function, is easily degestible, and has no enzyme inhibitors like nuts, grains and legumes.
To lean more about this amazing plant products go to FB and North American Hemp Products.
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Looking at that website, most of the posts are by Dr. Schell who also does Cur-ost products I believe.
My mistake. They just have an article by him. They are a different group. |
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| Yes the hemp products. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Sandok - 2018-06-27 11:28 AM
Yes the hemp products.
https://www.facebook.com/everybodyneedscbd/ |
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