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Location: Texas | Sound and what else?
What's your definition of sound?
What amount of maintenance pushes a horse over the edge from sound to unsound?
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| My 17 year old that I'm fighting her tendons is King Dude Hancock on top and Smart Peppy Lena on bottom. She is built well and has great feet. Always has been sound. Didn't need hock injections until she was 14. Then she started to fuse, and tore up her tendon. But the tendon was a freak accident.
My other mare is Smart Peppy Tari on top and unknown cow bloodlines on the bottom. Knock on wood she's 12, this year and needs no maintenance and has always been sound. Not badly put together, she could be improved in some ways, but she's stout with good strong legs and good feet.
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| I have 2 super sound by same sire a son of FDD crossed on Runaway Winner daughter. One is out of own daughter of Reckless Dash and the other is out of own daughter of Holland Ease and a Shawnee Bug mare.
They are both big boned,, deep shoulders and big hips. One has had his stifle injected but xrays were clean. I'm 100% positive it was sore from the Tourette syndrome kicking BS he does randomly(usually he's irritated about something) bc he's a weirdo
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Location: Bandera, TX | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/seco+three+bars
Best horse I ever threw a leg over. He did it all and handled the rodeo road well. If you look at the horses By Spotted Bull you see speed royal barrel horses. They won at the top of our racing world.
I never did anything for this horse other than stand him in the river on mondays after he ran in three rodeos on tough hard rodeo ground. |
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Location: Where the buffalo roam | My old mare was Peppy San on top and Sugar Bars breeding on the bottom. Never needed injections and was run hard until she was 22. She did develop arthritis in one front pastern late in life, but I blame that on running on crappy rodeo ground. She had the crookedest back legs you ever saw so I'm one of the few that does not get too hung up on confirmation (not saying it's not important, but my most correct horse has also been the one I had to retire early due to chronic lameness). And she took me to circuit finals and was a 1D horse.
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Location: Oklahoma | Driftwood.x on run. Or reverse it . |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | barrelracinbroke - 2018-03-23 1:42 PM IMO, higher odds of staying sound stems more from conformation than bloodlines.
I can agree with this, but ad... I like the older bloodlines because of the confirmation. There are very few I like new school confirmation wise... (to each their own though ;) ) I think the older stuff has that bone and foot you can't beat!
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Location: north dakota | My 22 year old gelding is still sound to run. He had a 1D record when I bought him and if I rode him correct I could make 1D times. I haven’t hauled him much in the last few years due to kids but my daughter started to run him this year. He’s a son of Nonstop bubblin and I bought his full sister to breed.
https://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bubblin+bubba+gump
ETA he’s the horse in my avatar
Edited by ndcowgirl 2018-08-20 1:36 PM
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Tough, gritty, and good bone. She was a solid 2D at jackpots and a successful college rodeo horse.
She's 23 this year and doesn't think she needs to be retired!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | barrelracinbroke - 2018-03-23 1:42 PM IMO, higher odds of staying sound stems more from conformation than bloodlines.
Big ditto to this, conformation is the key  |
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| TheDutchMan01 - 2018-03-23 8:37 AM
I have a 17 year old geilding who is out of a son of Dash for Cash (Kartell) crossed on a grand daughter of easy jet. I’ve ran him for 14 years and he’s still in great shape! He’s had a couple tendon injuries but other than that pretty low maintenance. He’s thick boned and takes care of himself. I think that’s what matters most.
That's how my mare is bred I just love that cross she is so nice minded she has her quirks but level headed. now for soundness we have been battling a little bit but nothing serious. |
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| I have a mare that is 14 (just got her a few months ago) that was not taken care of well AT ALL before I got her that is FDD on top and TB on bottom and she is as sound as they come. We radiographed everything (hocks, stifles, fetlocks, feet) and she is squeaky clean. Surprised the crap out of me.... |
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| Straight cow. Docs Sylish Oak on top, out of a mare that goes back to Smart Chic O Lena. |
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| scwebster - 2018-08-21 11:27 AM Straight cow. Docs Sylish Oak on top, out of a mare that goes back to Smart Chic O Lena.
My friends little cow mare is falling apart at age 13. Her mare's momma had Wimpy still on papers, and the rest was linebred Doc Bar. Friends mare has not been used hard, didn't really start any serious riding until 3 years ago.
My hybrid Zan Par Bar/Top Moon stallion is 14 this year and, knocking on my head and hopeful not to jinx myself, has never had a serious vet call. He's run since he was 5.
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Location: Montana | SO much goes into making a sound old horse. But it has to start with breeding. Personally, I really like some Easy Jet in a pedigree for soundness. |
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| ausranch - 2018-08-21 12:17 PM
SO much goes into making a sound old horse. But it has to start with breeding. Personally, I really like some Easy Jet in a pedigree for soundness.
Easy Jet is pretty hard to beat. |
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| I bred some frozen Special Effort semen to my unicorn mare that ran for 22 years never injected once but she just got so bad at the gate I had to retire her. Just didn't need those nasty injections that deteriorate her cartilage or cause injections! Ugh awful who does that!
She doesn't have any papers but positive she came straight from doc bar or easy jet, shes just too sound to be these bred down like theses fine boned things that people have today. Not a needle has touched her once! If she coliced just drove her around in the trailer on a gravel road. Also I don't believe in farriers because she just doesn't need one I keep her barefoot...we just stay away from gravel roads they make her ouchy.
We've won the 5D saddle every year at the local silver spur club so I'm confident she'll produce no less than a full fledged white with a rainbow horn unicorn that never needs injections, is push it in the neck close your eyes to the first barrel, and only needs a coggins for vet work.
If it works out the first year I'll probably freeze some embryos and sell a few. There's already a waiting list so better get in now! 5k to put down a deposit on a unicorn and no guarantees! #marepower #unicorns
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Special Effort - and the horse has great conformation.
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| She was an own daughter of Twaynas Dash out of a TB mare, and was raced hard as a 3yo. She won a lot of money and awards, retired sound and continued to stay sound as I ran her in high school and college. She was a pro level mare who was officially retired to the broodmare band, sound as can be. She had one abscess in her life, but other than that- nada, no soundness issues. Unfortunately we lost her in a freak accident while she was in foal. |
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