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| lopnaround - 2018-04-26 10:00 AM I'll be paying in! Thanks for posting- I was asking about this yesterday! Do stallion owners have to pay the 25K annually? Just curious...
yes. And there is a waiting list ofstallion owners that want to do it if any happen to drop out. |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-04-26 10:33 AM lopnaround - 2018-04-26 10:00 AM I'll be paying in! Thanks for posting- I was asking about this yesterday! Do stallion owners have to pay the 25K annually? Just curious... yes. And there is a waiting list ofstallion owners that want to do it if any happen to drop out.
So then....if I have a 2 year old by a stallion that in it for this year..,.and I pay my fees this year....and stallion drops out next year...do I still get to continue to pay and run his 4 year old year? |
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| lopnaround - 2018-04-26 12:43 PM Whiteboy - 2018-04-26 10:33 AM lopnaround - 2018-04-26 10:00 AM I'll be paying in! Thanks for posting- I was asking about this yesterday! Do stallion owners have to pay the 25K annually? Just curious... yes. And there is a waiting list ofstallion owners that want to do it if any happen to drop out.
I believe the answer is yes as long as you keep up on your enrollments each year. |
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Location: Wyoming | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-04-26 7:54 AM
hoofs_N_bridles - 2018-04-26 8:07 AM
I'm just confused as to why 3 yr old studs are being paid in already? Is it to secure the spot? But $25k to pay in a year just to secure is insane!
Offspring are eligible for the sale so if bred as a 2 yr old they are weanlings that can be put in the sale. Plus yes the stallion spots are limited.
Oh yes that makes sense!
So if I have a say two yr old by one of them. Just the year that I plan to futurity the colt is when I pay in correct? Then I also pay entry fees |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Whiteboy - 2018-04-26 8:33 AM
lopnaround - 2018-04-26 10:00 AM I'll be paying in! Thanks for posting- I was asking about this yesterday! Do stallion owners have to pay the 25K annually? Just curious...
yes. And there is a waiting list ofstallion owners that want to do it if any happen to drop out.
Great! Another "list".
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| OregonBR - 2018-04-26 3:16 PM Whiteboy - 2018-04-26 8:33 AM lopnaround - 2018-04-26 10:00 AM I'll be paying in! Thanks for posting- I was asking about this yesterday! Do stallion owners have to pay the 25K annually? Just curious... yes. And there is a waiting list ofstallion owners that want to do it if any happen to drop out. Great! Another "list".
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| Flamin10 - 2018-04-26 2:58 PM Where can we find a list of enrolled stallions?
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| hoofs_N_bridles - 2018-04-26 1:35 PM runfastturnsmooth - 2018-04-26 7:54 AM hoofs_N_bridles - 2018-04-26 8:07 AM I'm just confused as to why 3 yr old studs are being paid in already? Is it to secure the spot? But $25k to pay in a year just to secure is insane! Offspring are eligible for the sale so if bred as a 2 yr old they are weanlings that can be put in the sale. Plus yes the stallion spots are limited. Oh yes that makes sense! So if I have a say two yr old by one of them. Just the year that I plan to futurity the colt is when I pay in correct? Then I also pay entry fees
No- I think it's an annual fee until futurity year, then you pay additional entry fee
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| Also any of the stallions enrolled in the Program can run in the event themselves. We will be running Feel The Sting in the open and HP Dash Ta Fiesta in the Futurity as well as the open probably. This also allows the stud owners at a chance to get some of their investment back.
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| What I am suggesting to our mare owners. Enroll your horses the first year for the $200. Let the program get off the ground. See how the Pink Buckle event turns out. Then decide if it's worth it or not. Because if you don't enroll the first year your horse will NEVER be able to be enrolled back in the program. I have invested $25,000 to try and be apart of something possibly great for our mare owners. So $200 on their part is not too bad! Plus.... the mare owner/breeder will get 5% of anything that foal wins for as long as there is a Pink Buckle program! |
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| My concern is how am I going to afford to maintain the enrollment. I breed 3 a year and they are currently all bred to pink stallions. I have one born this year by a pink stallion. (He is close to 60 days old and there are no forms I have seen to enrollment him yet before the $100 penalty) So next year it will be $800 then the next year depending on who sells and who I breed to I could easily be looking at over $1,000 a year to maintain or enroll. That's gonna cut into my stud fee budget as I won't see a return on that investment for years. I will find a way to do it but not sure if other small breeders will be able to do it.
5% of a million is $50k to be paid back to the breeders who will probably have invested $200-$800 in enrollments is a little underwhelming compared to FF or TC100. However if the breeders are able to sell their foals for an extra 10% or even 20%, that will make the difference. It will depend on the market and buyers being excited about the program and them be willing to pay that extra for eligible foals
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I am sometimes not computer literate - but I cannot find any info other then - full site coming soon.
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| Guido - 2018-04-27 8:12 AM
My concern is how am I going to afford to maintain the enrollment. I breed 3 a year and they are currently all bred to pink stallions. I have one born this year by a pink stallion. (He is close to 60 days old and there are no forms I have seen to enrollment him yet before the $100 penalty) So next year it will be $800 then the next year depending on who sells and who I breed to I could easily be looking at over $1,000 a year to maintain or enroll. That's gonna cut into my stud fee budget as I won't see a return on that investment for years. I will find a way to do it but not sure if other small breeders will be able to do it.
5% of a million is $50k to be paid back to the breeders who will probably have invested $200-$800 in enrollments is a little underwhelming compared to FF or TC100. However if the breeders are able to sell their foals for an extra 10% or even 20%, that will make the difference. It will depend on the market and buyers being excited about the program and them be willing to pay that extra for eligible foals
This is what I'm kinda thinking too. Once again its a big money game. Gonna be hard on the small breeders. I'll be eating Rahman noodles to keep mine paid up! But $25K a year is a strong lick on the stallion owners too. I understand that the money to pay out has got to come from somewhere. I'll be curious to see pay outs.
Where are you guys finding information? I'm also just finding a website that really says nothing. |
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https://www.facebook.com/ryann.pedone/posts/1776137245741035 |
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| Call Lance Robinson 801-580-8588, he is very willing to answer everybodys questions. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Whiteboy - 2018-04-27 11:21 AM Call Lance Robinson 801-580-8588, he is very willing to answer everybodys questions.
Why doesn’t he come on here and announce his new program? That way a lot of questions could be answered and we would have it to review.
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Location: north dakota | There is a fb page for the pink buckle program with some information |
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| I'm not trying to be rude in any way. But nobody is twisting anyone's arm to join this program. If it's not for you then don't do it.
If you have a $600 in the nomination of a 2 yr old and the program is in its 3 rd year and paying a $1,000,000 just in the Futurity it would be hard for me to believe that your horse will not be worth at least $600 more because it's in the program.
You will also be allowed to sell your foals in the sale.
Also remember, it's only 5% but this program will pay for any age horse. So it this program goes as planned you could still be getting checks 10 years from now... |
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