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Location: Bastrop, Texas | WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM
thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months.
If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else. |
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Location: Winging It in KY | blueskies - 2018-05-27 8:33 PM Who makes Elevate?
Kentucky Performance Products |
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | What are you currently feeding this horse? or did I miss that? other then she is now back on pasture... was she body sore before being turned back out?
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| Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months. If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else.
Edited by WetSaddleBlankets 2018-05-30 12:56 AM
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| cindyt - 2018-05-29 12:13 PM
What are you currently feeding this horse? or did I miss that? other then she is now back on pasture... was she body sore before being turned back out?
Triple crown low startch... Her feed has nothing to do with vitamin e deficiency. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 12:36 AM
Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months. If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else. Seriously.... You have no idea what I've gone through to try and get my horse back. I ran her last weekend for the first time in almost 2 years and she came up really sore. I've been to the vet every month for the last 2 years for her Lameness evals and other issues that arised not even related to the original injury. I was desperate and bought a magnawave to keep her muscles loose because she has a sacroiliac injury and psoas muscle strain from a fractured pelvis... Nothing can reach the psoas muscle because it is so deep below the pelvis. It's only detectable through a rectal ultrasound...some one asked if I chiro or massaged her that was part of my response to them... Blood, sweat and a hell of a lot tears. Your comment was uncalled for.
Well, I guess I would have tried the vitamin E before spending thousands of dollars on a magnawave machine. I feel your pain, but this sounds like a teachable moment for the rest of us. That’s the takeaway for me. |
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Location: mi | WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-21 8:29 PM I have a horse very deficient in vitamin E. She was on stall rest and dry lotted for almost 2 years due to an injury. She is not a shedding very well, has a lack of muscle tone even with being riden and seems to have some muscle soreness. She's being treated. What are you your experiences with very low vitamin E in horses and recovery. I know it takes a while...
Maybe if I quote you people might actually read what you are asking......... maybe you gave them too much info...... ..... maybe Highlight the line that says SHE'S BEING TREATED........... Just looking for recovery experiences. I have nothing to help but good luck and maybe when the next person comes on you will be the one that can help with the recovery experience since it doesn't seem to be very common. |
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I was thinking the same thing! She's not asking on how to treat, she's asking for experiences on recovery.... everyone is over eager to help with out really reading the full post! Good luck to the OP and I know who I'm going to go to if I ever run into the same problem. |
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| Bear - 2018-05-30 7:52 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 12:36 AM
Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months. If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else. Seriously.... You have no idea what I've gone through to try and get my horse back. I ran her last weekend for the first time in almost 2 years and she came up really sore. I've been to the vet every month for the last 2 years for her Lameness evals and other issues that arised not even related to the original injury. I was desperate and bought a magnawave to keep her muscles loose because she has a sacroiliac injury and psoas muscle strain from a fractured pelvis... Nothing can reach the psoas muscle because it is so deep below the pelvis. It's only detectable through a rectal ultrasound...some one asked if I chiro or massaged her that was part of my response to them... Blood, sweat and a hell of a lot tears. Your comment was uncalled for.
Well, I guess I would have tried the vitamin E before spending thousands of dollars on a magnawave machine. I feel your pain, but this sounds like a teachable moment for the rest of us. That’s the takeaway for me.
unbelievable... The rudeness continues. Vitamin e is one of the many things going on... What this post is about. I don't understand what has happened to this board. Maybe its why I see less and less new posts on here. People hide behind their keyboard and say stuff to people they wouldn't in real life. I'm defense because I have absolutely no reason to have to respond to your sarcastic rude remarks. I asked advice from people who have dealt with horses recovering from vitamin e deficiency... Not how to treat it and how to avoid the problem... Or explaining smart a$$ remarks about a magnawave... |
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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 11:57 AM
Huh? Read my original post. My horse is being treated. Maybe you shouldn't assume.
I don't think AJS is coming down on you, just trying to help get the answer you're wanting, not how to treat but the recovery question. |
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| FlyingJT - 2018-05-30 12:04 PM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 11:57 AM
Huh? Read my original post. My horse is being treated. Maybe you shouldn't assume.
I don't think AJS is coming down on you, just trying to help get the answer you're wanting, not how to treat but the recovery question.
Ok thanks.. After bears remark I kind of got defensive. I asked myself why did I even waste my time to post on here to get that kind of response. This horse is my once in a lifetime and to read that unneeded comment kind of ruffles my feathers because I have literally done all I can due for her with really good vets and rehabilitation yet other things totally unrelated pop up. I guess just a run of bad luck. |
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| Bear - 2018-05-30 7:52 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 12:36 AM
Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months. If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else. Seriously.... You have no idea what I've gone through to try and get my horse back. I ran her last weekend for the first time in almost 2 years and she came up really sore. I've been to the vet every month for the last 2 years for her Lameness evals and other issues that arised not even related to the original injury. I was desperate and bought a magnawave to keep her muscles loose because she has a sacroiliac injury and psoas muscle strain from a fractured pelvis... Nothing can reach the psoas muscle because it is so deep below the pelvis. It's only detectable through a rectal ultrasound...some one asked if I chiro or massaged her that was part of my response to them... Blood, sweat and a hell of a lot tears. Your comment was uncalled for.
Well, I guess I would have tried the vitamin E before spending thousands of dollars on a magnawave machine. I feel your pain, but this sounds like a teachable moment for the rest of us. That’s the takeaway for me.
by the way... I bought the Magna wave for her fractured pelvis and sacroiliac injury... Not vitamin e!!!!!! I originally posted she was injured. Way to assume I'm an idiot. I appreciate it. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I dont think Bear was being rude he was giving his opinion like the rest of us that was just giving our opinion as well on Vit.E and other supplements, So sorry that some of us didnt give you the right answer that you were looking for sometimes our brains go into the help mode when we read a thread like yours and was not thinking about the recovery part of it, Like I say, sorry for offending you for not giving you the right answer, A thank you would have been good enough since you had to respond to some of us.. We understand your not in a happy place as alot of us have been in your shoes at one time or more, but dont get all bent out of shape when you dont get the answers you want or need. Bear is a good fella in my books and alot of others books too.
Its been two years you say, maybe try taking her to another vet for more advice on what to do for this horse, but dont get mad at us for giving our opinions on here, I wont post no more on this thread.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-05-30 12:37 PM
I dont think Bear was being rude he was giving his opinion like the rest of us that was just giving our opinion as well on Vit.E and other supplements, So sorry that some of us didnt give you the right answer that you were looking for sometimes our brains go into the help mode when we read a thread like yours and was not thinking about the recovery part of it, Like I say, sorry for defending you for not giving you the right answer, A thank you would have been good enough since you had to respond to some of us.. We understand your not in a happy place as alot of us have been in your shoes at one time or more, but dont get all bent out of shape when you dont get the answers you want or need. Bear is a good fella in my books and alot of others books too.
Its been two years you say, maybe try taking her to another vet for more advice on what to do for this horse, but dont get mad at us for giving our opinions on here, I wont post no more on this thread.
Hmm ok.. He went off about the Magna wave completely unrelated to the original post. I had no other problems with other comments. I said thanks and I greatly appreciate them the first part of the thread. I don't understand why I have to explain this to you. Also Sorry I wrote what I felt after his comment. Just like you state your mind. This is my thread and when someone posts a comment like that when I know his opinion on the magnawave I will point it out. He was making fun of it like I was an idiot for buying one and I don't need that. I've been trying to think outside the box to do what I can. When I say 2 years... Over 6 months was stall rest where I couldn't even hand walk her... She was a prisoner to her stall and a year and a half of slow rehabilitation because she was so weak.. I don't need a second opinion. Just because your horse isn't ready to run in a year doesn't mean they done. Some injuries take time to heal... Soft tissue is a good example. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 12:21 PM
Bear - 2018-05-30 7:52 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-30 12:36 AM
Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months. If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else. Seriously.... You have no idea what I've gone through to try and get my horse back. I ran her last weekend for the first time in almost 2 years and she came up really sore. I've been to the vet every month for the last 2 years for her Lameness evals and other issues that arised not even related to the original injury. I was desperate and bought a magnawave to keep her muscles loose because she has a sacroiliac injury and psoas muscle strain from a fractured pelvis... Nothing can reach the psoas muscle because it is so deep below the pelvis. It's only detectable through a rectal ultrasound...some one asked if I chiro or massaged her that was part of my response to them... Blood, sweat and a hell of a lot tears. Your comment was uncalled for.
Well, I guess I would have tried the vitamin E before spending thousands of dollars on a magnawave machine. I feel your pain, but this sounds like a teachable moment for the rest of us. That’s the takeaway for me. by the way... I bought the Magna wave for her fractured pelvis and sacroiliac injury... Not vitamin e!!!!!! I originally posted she was injured. Way to assume I'm an idiot. I appreciate it.
Well, that part wasn’t made known. You can obviously do whatever you want, but all I was trying to say, particularly to others, was to try the least expensive remedies first.....before buying a very expensive machine. I wish you would have clarified that.
Looking at the possibility of Vit E deficiency as a cause of the problem made some sense to me. It sounded like you jumped to the magnawave device first, and I was trying to give advice to others that it’s probably a better idea to explore potential causes for which an inexpensive remedy might be fortuitous......thus eliminating a several thousand dollar piece of equipment. It turns out that the magnawave machine didn’t produce the desired results either, but at least you own it and can try it for other issues that might arise in the future.
Part of the lesson here is that most of us have had at least that one very special horse. We are often times willing to spare no expense at finding solutions to their lameness or any other lameness.
There are entrepreneurs out there eager to “assist” you in that endeavor. It happens in human medicine as well.......where there are benevolent predators on the prowl. |
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM
thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months.
If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, so forgive me for butting in, but I read this exchange earlier and thought, “That was unnecessary.” I know two people liked it, which goes to show the diversity of opinion on this board, but I’m not sure how the OP was supposed to take it other than as a dig?
I’ve loved horses my whole life and I can’t imagine making fun of someone for trying to help their horse, even if I didn’t agree with their methods. |
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| cloverleaf - 2018-05-30 4:28 PM
Bear - 2018-05-28 9:02 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2018-05-22 6:31 PM
thanks for the replies. I've done everything possible for this horse. I bought her a magnawave semi machine and she is chiro regularly. Her treatment plan consists of elevate ws liquid vitamin e from Kentucky Performance products. I'm to give 12 ml (6000 iu) for 2 moths then retest. She could be on a high dose up to 3 months.
If you own a magnawave device, you shouldn’t need anything else.
I don’t have a dog in this fight, so forgive me for butting in, but I read this exchange earlier and thought, “That was unnecessary.” I know two people liked it, which goes to show the diversity of opinion on this board, but I’m not sure how the OP was supposed to take it other than as a dig?
I’ve loved horses my whole life and I can’t imagine making fun of someone for trying to help their horse, even if I didn’t agree with their methods.
Thanks. I appreciate that actually. But obviously as he posted above he was "giving good advice" not being a smart a$$. Whatever, any logical person can see that as a jab not advice. If a person doesn't understand why I got bothered by that then maybe they need to step away from the computer and talk to people in person the way they talk on this board and see what kind of reaction they get.... I really don't care anymore because they don't know my story anyways. I should of probably just shrugged it off as words on a computer not a person talking to me. |
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | Maybe this is another teachable moment . . . |
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| cloverleaf - 2018-05-30 5:06 PM
Maybe this is another teachable moment . . .
Exactly... |
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