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| Show me some sub 16.8 on a real, verified standard that look deceiving. Ive seen PLENTY of fast runs that look smooth and deceiving, but how fast were they really?
Londons was about as "deceiving" as one could look (opinion) and it didnt look all that deceiving at all. They turned a barrel lightning fast and maintained the speed and Im not even sure the pattern on that run.
Its really simple though, run on a real verified standard and stop that clock for all of us to see. Just so you all know, im not a hater at all, I want to see that record broke as many times as possible. The way I look at it a standard pattern is a true unbiased measurement that can be duplicated anywhere in the world and people will know how fast that team actually was, not just based on some perceived notion of location, number of riders or because "I run against these girls".
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | To me a horses stride is what can make a run look deceiving, I have seem many long strided horses made a run and it will look slower then a short strided one, you would think dang that short strided one really made a nice run, man it was fast untill you hear the times and your like wow that long strided one really covered some ground but it didnt like as fast as the short strided horse.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-06 11:10 AM
To me a horses stride is what can make a run look deceiving, I have seem many long strided horses made a run and it will look slower then a short strided one, you would think dang that short strided one really made a nice run, man it was fast untill you hear the times and your like wow that long strided one really covered some ground but it didnt like as fast as the short strided horse.
THis describes my two horses to a T.. My mare is shorter and little power house. SHe looks like she si FLYING and smoking a run, my gelding is 16.3 hands tall and looks like he is LOPING and he usually out runs her by about 1-2/10ths. totally weird... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2018-09-06 1:40 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-06 11:10 AM To me a horses stride is what can make a run look deceiving, I have seem many long strided horses made a run and it will look slower then a short strided one, you would think dang that short strided one really made a nice run, man it was fast untill you hear the times and your like wow that long strided one really covered some ground but it didnt like as fast as the short strided horse. THis describes my two horses to a T.. My mare is shorter and little power house. SHe looks like she si FLYING and smoking a run, my gelding is 16.3 hands tall and looks like he is LOPING and he usually out runs her by about 1-2/10ths. totally weird...
The horse in you're avatar looks like its got a really long stride. 
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| Here I am being an Ahole...post his deceivingly smooth sub 16.8 standard run....
I agree with what you are saying 100%, my deal is a world record class run will never look deceiving. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | joemama - 2018-09-06 2:51 PM Here I am being an Ahole...post his deceivingly smooth sub 16.8 standard run.... I agree with what you are saying 100%, my deal is a world record class run will never look deceiving.
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| joemama - 2018-09-06 12:31 PM Show me some sub 16.8 on a real, verified standard that look deceiving. Ive seen PLENTY of fast runs that look smooth and deceiving, but how fast were they really? Londons was about as "deceiving" as one could look (opinion) and it didnt look all that deceiving at all. They turned a barrel lightning fast and maintained the speed and Im not even sure the pattern on that run. Its really simple though, run on a real verified standard and stop that clock for all of us to see. Just so you all know, im not a hater at all, I want to see that record broke as many times as possible. The way I look at it a standard pattern is a true unbiased measurement that can be duplicated anywhere in the world and people will know how fast that team actually was, not just based on some perceived notion of location, number of riders or because "I run against these girls". Exactly how the other rune were too, in and out, no loss of momentum and it was the same measurements, it was announced many times during the race. WPRA does not recognize it because the barrels were not on top of the stakes, you can not have any adjustments even if the adjustments make the pattern the same which is fair, no one is saying it should be recognized by WPRA but that does not mean it was a smaller pattern.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2018-09-06 4:53 PM joemama - 2018-09-06 12:31 PM Show me some sub 16.8 on a real, verified standard that look deceiving. Ive seen PLENTY of fast runs that look smooth and deceiving, but how fast were they really? Londons was about as "deceiving" as one could look (opinion) and it didnt look all that deceiving at all. They turned a barrel lightning fast and maintained the speed and Im not even sure the pattern on that run. Its really simple though, run on a real verified standard and stop that clock for all of us to see. Just so you all know, im not a hater at all, I want to see that record broke as many times as possible. The way I look at it a standard pattern is a true unbiased measurement that can be duplicated anywhere in the world and people will know how fast that team actually was, not just based on some perceived notion of location, number of riders or because "I run against these girls". Exactly how the other rune were too, in and out, no loss of momentum and it was the same measurements, it was announced many times during the race. WPRA does not recognize it because the barrels were not on top of the stakes, you can not have any adjustments even if the adjustments make the pattern the same which is fair, no one is saying it should be recognized by WPRA but that does not mean it was a smaller pattern.
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| Honestly, it makes me question everything now. People on this thread were swearing this was a standard, then it wasnt, and now?? This place deosnt have lasers?
Ill wait to see actual times on a proper standard.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-06 3:11 PM
joemama - 2018-09-06 2:51 PM Here I am being an Ahole...post his deceivingly smooth sub 16.8 standard run.... I agree with what you are saying 100%, my deal is a world record class run will never look deceiving.
I dont see you as being a a-hole, I see someone voicing their honest opinion.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-06 6:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-09-06 4:53 PM joemama - 2018-09-06 12:31 PM Show me some sub 16.8 on a real, verified standard that look deceiving. Ive seen PLENTY of fast runs that look smooth and deceiving, but how fast were they really? Londons was about as "deceiving" as one could look (opinion) and it didnt look all that deceiving at all. They turned a barrel lightning fast and maintained the speed and Im not even sure the pattern on that run. Its really simple though, run on a real verified standard and stop that clock for all of us to see. Just so you all know, im not a hater at all, I want to see that record broke as many times as possible. The way I look at it a standard pattern is a true unbiased measurement that can be duplicated anywhere in the world and people will know how fast that team actually was, not just based on some perceived notion of location, number of riders or because "I run against these girls". Exactly how the other rune were too, in and out, no loss of momentum and it was the same measurements, it was announced many times during the race. WPRA does not recognize it because the barrels were not on top of the stakes, you can not have any adjustments even if the adjustments make the pattern the same which is fair, no one is saying it should be recognized by WPRA but that does not mean it was a smaller pattern.
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| 1DSoon - 2018-09-06 11:02 AM
luckyjo - 2018-09-06 10:17 AM Those of us that run against these girls on a regular basis know how tough they are. Congrats to both of them! I'd just like to say I ran against Patton several times the last two months this summer. She has it figured out and is bringing it all no matter what. Her palomino horse is the perfect example of a horse that will clock. This horse never raises up after circling a barrel. The constant forward motion this horse maintains and Patton's excellent horsemanship are throwing unheard of times on the clock in numerous arenas. I'm betting we'll see another arena record this weekend at Parker County Arena??
How much?
Well smartie, you'd have lost!! She did it! Just ran the new arena record at Parker County! 15.338 |
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| melaself - 2018-09-08 3:09 PM
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luckyjo - 2018-09-06 10:17 AM Those of us that run against these girls on a regular basis know how tough they are. Congrats to both of them! I'd just like to say I ran against Patton several times the last two months this summer. She has it figured out and is bringing it all no matter what. Her palomino horse is the perfect example of a horse that will clock. This horse never raises up after circling a barrel. The constant forward motion this horse maintains and Patton's excellent horsemanship are throwing unheard of times on the clock in numerous arenas. I'm betting we'll see another arena record this weekend at Parker County Arena??
How much?
Well smartie, you'd have lost!! She did it! Just ran the new arena record at Parker County! 15.338
Thats awesome!
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| rodeomom3 - 2018-09-06 6:31 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2018-09-06 6:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2018-09-06 4:53 PM joemama - 2018-09-06 12:31 PM Show me some sub 16.8 on a real, verified standard that look deceiving. Ive seen PLENTY of fast runs that look smooth and deceiving, but how fast were they really? Londons was about as "deceiving" as one could look (opinion) and it didnt look all that deceiving at all. They turned a barrel lightning fast and maintained the speed and Im not even sure the pattern on that run. Its really simple though, run on a real verified standard and stop that clock for all of us to see. Just so you all know, im not a hater at all, I want to see that record broke as many times as possible. The way I look at it a standard pattern is a true unbiased measurement that can be duplicated anywhere in the world and people will know how fast that team actually was, not just based on some perceived notion of location, number of riders or because "I run against these girls". Exactly how the other rune were too, in and out, no loss of momentum and it was the same measurements, it was announced many times during the race. WPRA does not recognize it because the barrels were not on top of the stakes, you can not have any adjustments even if the adjustments make the pattern the same which is fair, no one is saying it should be recognized by WPRA but that does not mean it was a smaller pattern. No mistake or “suppose to be”. This was an open race that was WPRA approved. They timed down to the thousand as opposed to the hundredth as in an official WPRA race and the set the barrels like an open race and measured to equal a standard. It’s fair for it to not be officially recognized but the pattern size was the same, I guess JM considers the producers and staff liars. They never said it was set per WPRA rules, just said it measured the same standard pattern size.
Im not saying theyre liars, but something is not right.
Why have a "standard" thats not standard? Why not set it up properly and get all the attention of a world record for the rider, horse AND the producer that groomed the ground and put on the event?
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Location: CTX | melaself - 2018-09-08 3:09 PM 1DSoon - 2018-09-06 11:02 AM luckyjo - 2018-09-06 10:17 AM Those of us that run against these girls on a regular basis know how tough they are. Congrats to both of them! I'd just like to say I ran against Patton several times the last two months this summer. She has it figured out and is bringing it all no matter what. Her palomino horse is the perfect example of a horse that will clock. This horse never raises up after circling a barrel. The constant forward motion this horse maintains and Patton's excellent horsemanship are throwing unheard of times on the clock in numerous arenas. I'm betting we'll see another arena record this weekend at Parker County Arena?? How much?
Well smartie, you'd have lost!! She did it! Just ran the new arena record at Parker County! 15.338
Yup, she sure did. Here is a link to her run.
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| Back when Hotshot was winning everywhere he stepped off the trailer, I couldn't believe he was that fast. He just did not look like it. I finally was sitting on the bottom row close to the timer and saw up close how freaking F-A-S-T he was running to the first barrel. Holy cow then it was much more believable to me. I have seen Patton's horse run several times in person. Videos can be deceiving but in person that is a smoking fast horse that is also big and stout. She is just getting warmed up. I expect we will all see her in the winners circle many more times. As for as the record times on a standard, I don't get too excited over that because the ground can be deep and slow in one arena and groomed to be fast in another.
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Location: Arkansas | cranky B4 10am - 2018-09-08 6:59 PM
melaself - 2018-09-08 3:09 PM 1DSoon - 2018-09-06 11:02 AM luckyjo - 2018-09-06 10:17 AM Those of us that run against these girls on a regular basis know how tough they are. Congrats to both of them! I'd just like to say I ran against Patton several times the last two months this summer. She has it figured out and is bringing it all no matter what. Her palomino horse is the perfect example of a horse that will clock. This horse never raises up after circling a barrel. The constant forward motion this horse maintains and Patton's excellent horsemanship are throwing unheard of times on the clock in numerous arenas. I'm betting we'll see another arena record this weekend at Parker County Arena?? How much?
Well smartie, you'd have lost!! She did it! Just ran the new arena record at Parker County! 15.338
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| Smoking!! Being snoopy here can anyone give me a background on the horse? Pedigree? Age? Etc? Also the rider? She’s amazing on that horse! I’m sure we’ll be seeing more from them in the future! |
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