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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Whiteboy - 2018-11-08 7:57 AM
It's hard to find one that you can't pick apart in some way. Plus conformation is somewhat subject to the our own preference. I really like Sawyers Game Changer, I like his balance. 
AGREE! really like him. hes great looking from the front as well! great big ole chest on him to which really helps.
I hope they get him into some incentives and push him! he could be a name in the future! |
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| Sandok - 2018-11-08 7:46 AM
I second Pappasito. Hated to see him leave Oklahoma. SKM do you have a colt out of him?
Yes I do! 4 year old mare that is the prettiest thing you’ll ever see. She’s huge. She was on self destruct mode this summer. Then “life” has been getting in my way as I quit my job and started a business. She’s really smart and I had her loping a set after 5 days of being patterned. My daughter was jealous, lol! I can’t say enough good things about my mare. |
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Southtxponygirl - 2018-11-07 9:17 PM One that we know in person or one that we can dream about? 
Do you always respond with snarky crotchety answers? did someone p i ss in your cereal this morning?
There are other nice well built studs. However i thought of the ones i have SEEN in person and thought they were exemplary
Streaking Ta Fame is one of those.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | SKM - 2018-11-08 6:37 PM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2018-11-07 7:31 PM 1DSoon - 2018-11-07 7:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2018-11-07 9:17 PM One that we know in person or one that we can dream about?
Do you always respond with snarky crotchety answers? did someone p i ss in your cereal this morning? There are other nice well built studs. However i thought of the ones i have SEEN in person and thought they were exemplary Streaking Ta Fame is one of those. Has 1D ever offered anything to a conversation other than rudeness, sarcasm and snarky comments?
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| Be VERY careful breeding to studs based off of just pictures. Stud pictures now days are like fb profiles pictures.....you wanna see that "tagged pic" before you really the conformation. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | runfastturnsmooth - 2018-11-08 7:44 PM Be VERY careful breeding to studs based off of just pictures. Stud pictures now days are like fb profiles pictures.....you wanna see that "tagged pic" before you really the conformation.
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2018-11-08 6:44 PM
Be VERY careful breeding to studs based off of just pictures. Stud pictures now days are like fb profiles pictures.....you wanna see that "tagged pic" before you really the conformation.
Depends on who has the stud. I saw Dinero as a 4 yr old before anyone knew his name. I bred to him & had outstanding horses by him. Potters are honest people & stallion owners. I never met Firewater Ta Fame, but I have an outstanding filly we will be running next year by him out of one of our driftwood mares. Our trainers love her & said she is something very special. Just need to look at the person standing the stud & look at what the stallions pedigree is & see if it matches up to your mares conformation & pedigree. |
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Location: Arkansas | OregonBR - 2018-11-08 10:19 AM
I can't pick just one. There are many that are really nice. I always liked DTF even before he became the sire he did. He could have had a better head.
Jet Deck was IMO nearly perfect in all respects. He even had a wonderful disposition which in the end might have been his undoing. i.e. the reason someone was able to catch him in his pasture and administer a lethal dose of barbiturates. :(
I'm partial to my own senior stallion and if I weren't, I'd have no business standing him. But that said, USUALLY a discerning horseman knows they are not perfect. Breeding good horses is about knowing what you're working with and always trying to find a match that will create a more perfect animal.
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| okhorselover - 2018-11-08 7:52 PM
runfastturnsmooth - 2018-11-08 6:44 PM
Be VERY careful breeding to studs based off of just pictures. Stud pictures now days are like fb profiles pictures.....you wanna see that "tagged pic" before you really the conformation.
Depends on who has the stud. I saw Dinero as a 4 yr old before anyone knew his name. I bred to him & had outstanding horses by him. Potters are honest people & stallion owners. I never met Firewater Ta Fame, but I have an outstanding filly we will be running next year by him out of one of our driftwood mares. Our trainers love her & said she is something very special. Just need to look at the person standing the stud & look at what the stallions pedigree is & see if it matches up to your mares conformation & pedigree.
I'm not saying people are dishonest.
I'm saying that people will breed to a stud then see him in person and be like "oh he so doesn't look like I thought." |
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Location: Kansas | I know I'm talking about a horse that has passed but Dash for Perks was pretty stylish. I like to see a horse low in the knees and hocks and he most certainly was along with some other impressive features. Never saw him in person....only pictures.
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| runfastturnsmooth - 2018-11-08 6:44 PM
Be VERY careful breeding to studs based off of just pictures. Stud pictures now days are like fb profiles pictures.....you wanna see that "tagged pic" before you really the conformation.
I agree with this. I have a stud on my top 5 to breed to but I've seen his dam in person who had the smallest feet I have ever seen. I would want to see him in person before I decided to breed to him to see what he is walkin on. I would never have expected she had that small of feet. |
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Location: Silex Missouri | Cartels Feature is very correct and balanced. Just want to say that this picture is unedited and not photoshopped in any way. This is him in his natural self.
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Location: TEXAS | Whiteboy - 2018-11-08 8:57 AM It's hard to find one that you can't pick apart in some way. Plus conformation is somewhat subject to the our own preference. I really like Sawyers Game Changer, I like his balance.
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Location: Arizona | I haven't seen either in person, but the photos I've seen of Shawne Bug Leo and PC Tully Frost have always impressed me.
Of studs I know personally, I used to live just a couple houses down from this guy and love his conformation.
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| Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2018-11-07 7:15 PM Streaking ta fame ... easily the most conformationally correct stud I would recommend him for most mares that need some "cleaning" up. it always helps if the mare is a little more stout though in the chest.
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| OregonBR - 2018-11-08 10:19 AM I can't pick just one. There are many that are really nice. I always liked DTF even before he became the sire he did. He could have had a better head. Jet Deck was IMO nearly perfect in all respects. He even had a wonderful disposition which in the end might have been his undoing. i.e. the reason someone was able to catch him in his pasture and administer a lethal dose of barbiturates. :( I'm partial to my own senior stallion and if I weren't, I'd have no business standing him. But that said, USUALLY a discerning horseman knows they are not perfect. Breeding good horses is about knowing what you're working with and always trying to find a match that will create a more perfect animal.
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Location: OH | scwebster - 2018-11-20 10:31 AM OregonBR - 2018-11-08 10:19 AM I can't pick just one. There are many that are really nice. I always liked DTF even before he became the sire he did. He could have had a better head. Jet Deck was IMO nearly perfect in all respects. He even had a wonderful disposition which in the end might have been his undoing. i.e. the reason someone was able to catch him in his pasture and administer a lethal dose of barbiturates. :( I'm partial to my own senior stallion and if I weren't, I'd have no business standing him. But that said, USUALLY a discerning horseman knows they are not perfect. Breeding good horses is about knowing what you're working with and always trying to find a match that will create a more perfect animal. Has there ever been a theory as to why someone intentionally overdosed the stallion?
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | scwebster - 2018-11-20 7:31 AM
OregonBR - 2018-11-08 10:19 AM I can't pick just one. There are many that are really nice. I always liked DTF even before he became the sire he did. He could have had a better head. Jet Deck was IMO nearly perfect in all respects. He even had a wonderful disposition which in the end might have been his undoing. i.e. the reason someone was able to catch him in his pasture and administer a lethal dose of barbiturates. :( I'm partial to my own senior stallion and if I weren't, I'd have no business standing him. But that said, USUALLY a discerning horseman knows they are not perfect. Breeding good horses is about knowing what you're working with and always trying to find a match that will create a more perfect animal.
Has there ever been a theory as to why someone intentionally overdosed the stallion?
I believe it was because he was becoming a sire that no other could compete with. In the short time he was standing he made a huge impact on running quarter horses. It may have been jealousy or revenge or ?? |
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Location: USA | OregonBR - 2018-11-20 9:56 AM scwebster - 2018-11-20 7:31 AM OregonBR - 2018-11-08 10:19 AM I can't pick just one. There are many that are really nice. I always liked DTF even before he became the sire he did. He could have had a better head. Jet Deck was IMO nearly perfect in all respects. He even had a wonderful disposition which in the end might have been his undoing. i.e. the reason someone was able to catch him in his pasture and administer a lethal dose of barbiturates. :( I'm partial to my own senior stallion and if I weren't, I'd have no business standing him. But that said, USUALLY a discerning horseman knows they are not perfect. Breeding good horses is about knowing what you're working with and always trying to find a match that will create a more perfect animal. Has there ever been a theory as to why someone intentionally overdosed the stallion? I believe it was because he was becoming a sire that no other could compete with. In the short time he was standing he made a huge impact on running quarter horses. It may have been jealousy or revenge or ??
Yes, they believe they knew who the perpetrator was. Hired hit men did teh job, but they could never "prove" who paid for the hit. A stallion owner whose stallion was overshadowed by Jet Deck, both on the track and in the stud. Only 7 foal crops, and his legacy is still alive today.
My personal all time favorite stud,a s well. I don;t own a horse that does not trace back to Jet Deck.
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