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Location: Texas | Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 1:22 PM
LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM
I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed.
IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
They don't have to be fed up like crazy at a young age. I didn't enter the Juvi on mine last year, but in December of her 3YO year she was winning 1D money at jackpots with 150+ runners. I didn't sale fit her, keep her overly fat, or raise her any different than I would any other horse. I honestly felt like I went slow with her. To be honest, I see a lot of people get an older horse and think they can cram a bunch of training in a few months and then they're entering the local stuff. I drug out her barrel training over 2 years (2YO and 3YO) with plenty of breaks in between. Now I do feel like some horses are not prepared or not of the right mindset to run at the juvenile.. and there are definitely people out there who won't back off when needed and truly don't care. |
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Location: Texas | To answer the OPs question-
I'm super stoked that all the The Goodbye Lane futurity horses entered qualified for the futurity finals. I'm also very happy for my friend who owns Epic Guy and I was very impressed with most of the other Epic Leaders. I am glad to see the Slick By Designs showing up.. I know his sire has undergone criticism for his book sizes and sire ability, so I'm glad his offspring are doing him well.
I'm not thrilled with the ground... Kinda sad it doesn't seem to be the best and I feel like Makin Ya Famous's 2nd go derby run was robbed when he slipped bad at the third barrel.
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| We are so excited !! A filly we bred, LR Catch This Streak made it back to the fut finals. Her dam is a daughter of Lone Drifter & a 1/2 sister to top winning LR Designerwood. Her sire is Streakin Again. She is owned by Keith, Ragina & Heath Holland. Heath rides her. We couldn't be more proud. Driftwood mare power :) |
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Location: Arkansas | vjls - 2018-12-06 4:50 PM
mreklaw - 2018-12-06 5:03 PM Whiteboy - 2018-12-06 1:12 PM Did you just see Kay Blandford? She's gonna win this round also! Didn’t see today’s run but her 1st run she was way past the first and still clocked. The 2nd barrel was amazing!
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| The horses being specialized bred for barrel racing are just spectacular now. But to my mind, a crying shame these animals are being asking to run for their lives at age three! How many of them go on, I wonder? Dr. Deb Bennett has published numerous scientific references to the lifelong damage horses receive as a result of too early hard training, saying among other things that all the concern for closed physis in the knees might be better directed for concern about the ones in the vertebra, as a healthy back is so crucial to the biomechanics of limb function. That these wonderful athletes are considered disposable in the service of trying to win a few venues at such an early ages just seems wrong headed. |
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| Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:49 PM
The horses being specialized bred for barrel racing are just spectacular now. But to my mind, a crying shame these animals are being asking to run for their lives at age three! How many of them go on, I wonder? Dr. Deb Bennett has published numerous scientific references to the lifelong damage horses receive as a result of too early hard training, saying among other things that all the concern for closed physis in the knees might be better directed for concern about the ones in the vertebra, as a healthy back is so crucial to the biomechanics of limb function. That these wonderful athletes are considered disposable in the service of trying to win a few venues at such an early ages just seems wrong headed.
 5 year of futurities and possibly 4 if they are mature mentally and physically are fine in my mind... But 3 in my opinion is pushing the envelope to the max. It takes an awful special horse to make it at that age and still have a career past futurity into derby then open. Hell I'm working my tail off getting them broke to my standards at 3.... Some I don't even start until 3. But maybe I just have late bloomers. Lol.... But again horses are not a business to me... Only my own personal goals. Guess that's the driving difference.... |
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| I am very happy to see the Slick by Design and the BHRFS babies doing great! I am partial to both though as I have 2 by BHRFS and 1 by Slick :) Also think Ain't Seen Maples Yet (ridden by Jennifer Burgess) has a super bright future. The Juvi is super exciting to watch! |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Mecon - 2018-12-06 8:49 PM
The horses being specialized bred for barrel racing are just spectacular now. But to my mind, a crying shame these animals are being asking to run for their lives at age three! How many of them go on, I wonder? Dr. Deb Bennett has published numerous scientific references to the lifelong damage horses receive as a result of too early hard training, saying among other things that all the concern for closed physis in the knees might be better directed for concern about the ones in the vertebra, as a healthy back is so crucial to the biomechanics of limb function. That these wonderful athletes are considered disposable in the service of trying to win a few venues at such an early ages just seems wrong headed.
Even before they started the Juvi you still had to have that 3 year old running by December because the 4 year old futurities are only a month away. Many top futurity horses do make it after. What I see is some riders haven’t prepared their horses as far as conditioning and seasoning them before. You have to get them out. You can go to any barrel race and see the same thing with older horses that aren’t in shape and rider doesn’t have a clue. So any horse of any age can be “blown up “ or hurt due to not being conditioned both mentally and physically. Oh and then there are those that just aren’t physically capable because of confirmation and no matter how long you wait to start them they will have soundness issues. |
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Location: WYOMING | Juvi... THE GREAT EQUALIZER!
Nothing like jockeying a 3 yr old thru!!!
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I LOVE your dobie :) I miss having one.
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| mpindixie - 2018-12-06 10:17 PM
I am very happy to see the Slick by Design and the BHRFS babies doing great! I am partial to both though as I have 2 by BHRFS and 1 by Slick :) Also think Ain't Seen Maples Yet (ridden by Jennifer Burgess) has a super bright future. The Juvi is super exciting to watch!
The dam of the filly we bred that made the fut finals is being bred to slick next year. We are super excited. I have a 4 yr old slick son & you couldn't buy him from me. The 2 I bred & have sold are doing great & their owners love them. I have bred 4 different mares to slick & each one is very special. Well # 4 is still in the oven, but I know he or she is going to be awesome.
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I bet his book filled up just after the first round of the Juvi
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Location: Texas | BarrelNPoleRunnr - 2018-12-07 8:03 PM
 I think you could cross an EPIC with anythng and i would work! Â
I bet his book filled up just after the first round of the JuviÂ
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | geronabean - 2018-12-07 9:31 AM Juvi... THE GREAT EQUALIZER! Nothing like jockeying a 3 yr old thru!!!
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Location: Austin, Texas | Who won the futurity? I don't see the results on their Facebook Page
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| cpo61 - 2018-12-10 10:31 PM Who won the futurity? I don't see the results on their Facebook Page
YES!! NO one has said a dang word about who won! |
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| Nateracer - 2018-12-11 6:10 AM
cpo61 - 2018-12-10 10:31 PM Who won the futurity? I don't see the results on their Facebook Page
YES!!  NO one has said a dang word about who won! Â
http://www.bfaworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/2018-BFA-FUTURIT...
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Meep.Meep - 2018-12-06 12:22 PM LIVE2RUN - 2018-12-06 12:57 PM I watched about an hour of it, honestly, some of those horses just weren't ready to run..IMO! And gosh I saw so many with tie-downs on already....why? Did they hurry through their training and just slap on one and be done...not impressed. IMO They are 3 and 4 yr olds, of course they hurried through their training. Wish everyone could let these horses grow up before running them. In order to have a 3 year old big enough to run they have to be fed up like crazy at a young age, BAD for their future. But hey, as long as they can be used and run hard at 3 who really cares what happens to them after that right?
Edited by teehaha 2018-12-11 2:27 PM
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