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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 5:26 PM I wasn't going to even get back on here, as I felt, after reading some of the comments made by some, and went back and re-read what I had evidently misunderstood and taken way wrong, that I had gone way too far in flying off the handle and came across like the idiots I grew up hearing. But you know what, first of all I apologize to the young person who brought this up, it was'nt until the comments about the stigma that goes w being a guy that runs barrels in Texas, were mentioned that my head began to spin! Because I experienced that first hand before I was old enough to understand anything except that I loved barrel racing and it's all I was gonna ever wanna do! But w that said, the stigma that I experienced in Texas came from grown people or their kids, and it's born out of hate, and you can't tell me it wasn't unless you were that lil boy who just wanted to run barrels!!! At that time people were suing the WPRA trying to get guys in to run and all that, and you all know the "GAY" thing was thrown in just for a good ole boy chuckle! I'm the Gay man, who was that child experiencing grown people making snide remarks, and giggling, etc. at him. As I got older the chip on my shoulder did get bigger, as you see it's still being worked on, but I can guarantee you there is a lil boy or girl that may read this out there now that should not have to go through or even have to hear the ignorance that once was! I know who what and why I am, and I'm proud of that. I just thought things were classier than 35-40 yrs ago, I know I'm trying to be so I'm gonna apologize again to the youngster who just asked a question, and for my initial response, but I'm not responding purposely to the comments some have made towards me, because I don't wanna be banned from this site, but trust and believe I'm still a work in progress, and Pretty is as Pretty does. God Bless.
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      Location: Arkansas | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 4:26 PM I wasn't going to even get back on here, as I felt, after reading some of the comments made by some, and went back and re-read what I had evidently misunderstood and taken way wrong, that I had gone way too far in flying off the handle and came across like the idiots I grew up hearing. But you know what, first of all I apologize to the young person who brought this up, it was'nt until the comments about the stigma that goes w being a guy that runs barrels in Texas, were mentioned that my head began to spin! Because I experienced that first hand before I was old enough to understand anything except that I loved barrel racing and it's all I was gonna ever wanna do! But w that said, the stigma that I experienced in Texas came from grown people or their kids, and it's born out of hate, and you can't tell me it wasn't unless you were that lil boy who just wanted to run barrels!!! At that time people were suing the WPRA trying to get guys in to run and all that, and you all know the "GAY" thing was thrown in just for a good ole boy chuckle! I'm the Gay man, who was that child experiencing grown people making snide remarks, and giggling, etc. at him. As I got older the chip on my shoulder did get bigger, as you see it's still being worked on, but I can guarantee you there is a lil boy or girl that may read this out there now that should not have to go through or even have to hear the ignorance that once was! I know who what and why I am, and I'm proud of that. I just thought things were classier than 35-40 yrs ago, I know I'm trying to be so I'm gonna apologize again to the youngster who just asked a question, and for my initial response, but I'm not responding purposely to the comments some have made towards me, because I don't wanna be banned from this site, but trust and believe I'm still a work in progress, and Pretty is as Pretty does. God Bless.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Holy hell. I’m feeling a little paranoid. I guess I’m guilty as charged because I’m the one who made the comment about my perception that there was a stigma about men who barrel race in Texas. Where I live, 99+% of people who enter jackpots are women. I still think there is but I don’t give a sh!t. I still love it and I still do it. The “stigma” stems from what I’ve been told several times over the years.
For the record, I don’t give a dam about someone’s sexual preference. I’m the one with the Cheshire grin in the arena surrounded by pretty women.
I stand by my perception of the stigma. It bugged me, but I didn’t let it stand in my way. I still enjoy it.
Try that appproach.
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       Location: Missouri | Bear - 2019-02-14 8:56 PM
Holy hell. I’m feeling a little paranoid. I guess I’m guilty as charged because I’m the one who made the comment about my perception that there was a stigma about men who barrel race in Texas. Where I live, 99+% of people who enter jackpots are women. I still think there is but I don’t give a sh!t. I still love it and I still do it. The “stigma” stems from what I’ve been told several times over the years.
For the record, I don’t give a dam about someone’s sexual preference. I’m the one with the Cheshire grin in the arena surrounded by pretty women.
I stand by my perception of the stigma. It bugged me, but I didn’t let it stand in my way. I still enjoy it.
Try that appproach.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2019-02-14 8:56 PM Holy hell. I’m feeling a little paranoid. I guess I’m guilty as charged because I’m the one who made the comment about my perception that there was a stigma about men who barrel race in Texas. Where I live, 99+% of people who enter jackpots are women. I still think there is but I don’t give a sh!t. I still love it and I still do it. The “stigma” stems from what I’ve been told several times over the years. For the record, I don’t give a dam about someone’s sexual preference. I’m the one with the Cheshire grin in the arena surrounded by pretty women. I stand by my perception of the stigma. It bugged me, but I didn’t let it stand in my way. I still enjoy it. Try that appproach.
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 Location: Vinita, Okla. | First of all, thank you to the ones who liked and said kind things to me for making my apologies! You can probably already guess--I've had to do it A LOT in my life--and I'm as high strung as the horses i choose to run, so in order to do that I've got to slow my knee jerk response time down and breath, and THINK about my next response way before I do it! I've learned, with my emotions as all over the map, which I blame on my Moma(LOL) that I can and should apply that in situations just like this!!! And I've made myself look like a fool more than I have'nt w a quick tongue and words that cut deep! That's not a trait I'm proud of, but I wasn't gonna just let strangers who didn't know me from Adam, get the last word on me especially the older I got!!!! And that lead to physical altercations, and at times through my adult life (being HAPPY GOD MADE ME THE WAY HE DID) could not keep those words from making me confrontational. I'm embarrassed to say that at 50, I still am at war w myself over the words of people who don't mean squat in my life! Think about what it can do to an 11 yr old to be called names by grown ups, that he'd have to ask his Moma to define for him??? Or at least I did! Just because I ran barrels? They had evidently not been watching the BFA Futuity shows on Americas Horse on TNN!!! Lol And hearing the things people would say as I went through school, that we're starting to hit home! Societies views on things have changed 10 fold, Thank God! But in the mid 80's you know how it was! So I don't wanna make this any more about me than I have already, but when the word stigma came up, and In my home state, I'm sorry, so sorry-but the nerve had been hit!!!! So I'm very appreciative to those of you, who had wonderful welcoming and sincere comments. And I'm really not THAT deep, nor do I take myself that serious(hence my user name) and I love to laugh especially at my own expense -which might not really be something I wanna be bragging about...????? But hey maybe y'all can help me understand myself better ?!?!? Except the Lizard Lot Lady, I'm gonna leave that alone! Happy Barrel Racing in 2019!!!!!! | |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 9:57 PM First of all, thank you to the ones who liked and said kind things to me for making my apologies! You can probably already guess--I've had to do it A LOT in my life--and I'm as high strung as the horses i choose to run, so in order to do that I've got to slow my knee jerk response time down and breath, and THINK about my next response way before I do it! I've learned, with my emotions as all over the map, which I blame on my Moma(LOL) that I can and should apply that in situations just like this!!! And I've made myself look like a fool more than I have'nt w a quick tongue and words that cut deep! That's not a trait I'm proud of, but I wasn't gonna just let strangers who didn't know me from Adam, get the last word on me especially the older I got!!!! And that lead to physical altercations, and at times through my adult life (being HAPPY GOD MADE ME THE WAY HE DID) could not keep those words from making me confrontational. I'm embarrassed to say that at 50, I still am at war w myself over the words of people who don't mean squat in my life! Think about what it can do to an 11 yr old to be called names by grown ups, that he'd have to ask his Moma to define for him??? Or at least I did! Just because I ran barrels? They had evidently not been watching the BFA Futuity shows on Americas Horse on TNN!!! Lol And hearing the things people would say as I went through school, that we're starting to hit home! Societies views on things have changed 10 fold, Thank God! But in the mid 80's you know how it was! So I don't wanna make this any more about me than I have already, but when the word stigma came up, and In my home state, I'm sorry, so sorry-but the nerve had been hit!!!! So I'm very appreciative to those of you, who had wonderful welcoming and sincere comments. And I'm really not THAT deep, nor do I take myself that serious(hence my user name) and I love to laugh especially at my own expense -which might not really be something I wanna be bragging about...????? But hey maybe y'all can help me understand myself better ?!?!? Except the Lizard Lot Lady, I'm gonna leave that alone! Happy Barrel Racing in 2019!!!!!!
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 9:57 PM First of all, thank you to the ones who liked and said kind things to me for making my apologies! You can probably already guess--I've had to do it A LOT in my life--and I'm as high strung as the horses i choose to run, so in order to do that I've got to slow my knee jerk response time down and breath, and THINK about my next response way before I do it! I've learned, with my emotions as all over the map, which I blame on my Moma(LOL) that I can and should apply that in situations just like this!!! And I've made myself look like a fool more than I have'nt w a quick tongue and words that cut deep! That's not a trait I'm proud of, but I wasn't gonna just let strangers who didn't know me from Adam, get the last word on me especially the older I got!!!! And that lead to physical altercations, and at times through my adult life (being HAPPY GOD MADE ME THE WAY HE DID) could not keep those words from making me confrontational. I'm embarrassed to say that at 50, I still am at war w myself over the words of people who don't mean squat in my life! Think about what it can do to an 11 yr old to be called names by grown ups, that he'd have to ask his Moma to define for him??? Or at least I did! Just because I ran barrels? They had evidently not been watching the BFA Futuity shows on Americas Horse on TNN!!! Lol And hearing the things people would say as I went through school, that we're starting to hit home! Societies views on things have changed 10 fold, Thank God! But in the mid 80's you know how it was! So I don't wanna make this any more about me than I have already, but when the word stigma came up, and In my home state, I'm sorry, so sorry-but the nerve had been hit!!!! So I'm very appreciative to those of you, who had wonderful welcoming and sincere comments. And I'm really not THAT deep, nor do I take myself that serious(hence my user name) and I love to laugh especially at my own expense -which might not really be something I wanna be bragging about...????? But hey maybe y'all can help me understand myself better ?!?!? Except the Lizard Lot Lady, I'm gonna leave that alone! Happy Barrel Racing in 2019!!!!!!
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2019-02-14 10:06 PM Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 9:57 PM First of all, thank you to the ones who liked and said kind things to me for making my apologies! You can probably already guess--I've had to do it A LOT in my life--and I'm as high strung as the horses i choose to run, so in order to do that I've got to slow my knee jerk response time down and breath, and THINK about my next response way before I do it! I've learned, with my emotions as all over the map, which I blame on my Moma(LOL) that I can and should apply that in situations just like this!!! And I've made myself look like a fool more than I have'nt w a quick tongue and words that cut deep! That's not a trait I'm proud of, but I wasn't gonna just let strangers who didn't know me from Adam, get the last word on me especially the older I got!!!! And that lead to physical altercations, and at times through my adult life (being HAPPY GOD MADE ME THE WAY HE DID) could not keep those words from making me confrontational. I'm embarrassed to say that at 50, I still am at war w myself over the words of people who don't mean squat in my life! Think about what it can do to an 11 yr old to be called names by grown ups, that he'd have to ask his Moma to define for him??? Or at least I did! Just because I ran barrels? They had evidently not been watching the BFA Futuity shows on Americas Horse on TNN!!! Lol And hearing the things people would say as I went through school, that we're starting to hit home! Societies views on things have changed 10 fold, Thank God! But in the mid 80's you know how it was! So I don't wanna make this any more about me than I have already, but when the word stigma came up, and In my home state, I'm sorry, so sorry-but the nerve had been hit!!!! So I'm very appreciative to those of you, who had wonderful welcoming and sincere comments. And I'm really not THAT deep, nor do I take myself that serious(hence my user name) and I love to laugh especially at my own expense -which might not really be something I wanna be bragging about...????? But hey maybe y'all can help me understand myself better ?!?!? Except the Lizard Lot Lady, I'm gonna leave that alone! Happy Barrel Racing in 2019!!!!!! LOL ..... We all go "off the rails" once in awhile .... but now you are being "pretty" ...... and welcome to BHW ! ! ! Man no kidding about going off the rail once in awhile... Hey Norma its past your bed time 
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 Location: Vinita, Okla. | Hey Bear, kiddo this is not on you! I take responsibility for all of it! And you just used a word that I've dealt w that went along w being a guy barrel racer to a bunch of backwoods nobody's! Being gay is NOT a preference or a choice, it's how God in heaven made me, and God doesn't make mistakes! The proper term is sexual orientation, not preference, I'm just giving you a lil FYI that may help you in the future and be "politically correct" which in today's political world, doesn't say much! So you did nothing wrong and I apologize to you! I'm gonna pm another person On here to see your riding, she said you were awesome! Again I'm the one that's to blame and I'm so sorry!!!! | |
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      Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-02-14 10:09 PM
NJJ - 2019-02-14 10:06 PM Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 9:57 PM First of all, thank you to the ones who liked and said kind things to me for making my apologies! You can probably already guess--I've had to do it A LOT in my life--and I'm as high strung as the horses i choose to run, so in order to do that I've got to slow my knee jerk response time down and breath, and THINK about my next response way before I do it! I've learned, with my emotions as all over the map, which I blame on my Moma(LOL) that I can and should apply that in situations just like this!!! And I've made myself look like a fool more than I have'nt w a quick tongue and words that cut deep! That's not a trait I'm proud of, but I wasn't gonna just let strangers who didn't know me from Adam, get the last word on me especially the older I got!!!! And that lead to physical altercations, and at times through my adult life (being HAPPY GOD MADE ME THE WAY HE DID) could not keep those words from making me confrontational. I'm embarrassed to say that at 50, I still am at war w myself over the words of people who don't mean squat in my life! Think about what it can do to an 11 yr old to be called names by grown ups, that he'd have to ask his Moma to define for him??? Or at least I did! Just because I ran barrels? They had evidently not been watching the BFA Futuity shows on Americas Horse on TNN!!! Lol And hearing the things people would say as I went through school, that we're starting to hit home! Societies views on things have changed 10 fold, Thank God! But in the mid 80's you know how it was! So I don't wanna make this any more about me than I have already, but when the word stigma came up, and In my home state, I'm sorry, so sorry-but the nerve had been hit!!!! So I'm very appreciative to those of you, who had wonderful welcoming and sincere comments. And I'm really not THAT deep, nor do I take myself that serious(hence my user name) and I love to laugh especially at my own expense -which might not really be something I wanna be bragging about...????? But hey maybe y'all can help me understand myself better ?!?!? Except the Lizard Lot Lady, I'm gonna leave that alone! Happy Barrel Racing in 2019!!!!!! LOL ..... We all go "off the rails" once in awhile .... but now you are being "pretty" ...... and welcome to BHW ! ! !  Man no kidding about going off the rail once in awhile...  Hey Norma its past your bed time 
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      Location: Arkansas | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 9:57 PM First of all, thank you to the ones who liked and said kind things to me for making my apologies! You can probably already guess--I've had to do it A LOT in my life--and I'm as high strung as the horses i choose to run, so in order to do that I've got to slow my knee jerk response time down and breath, and THINK about my next response way before I do it! I've learned, with my emotions as all over the map, which I blame on my Moma(LOL) that I can and should apply that in situations just like this!!! And I've made myself look like a fool more than I have'nt w a quick tongue and words that cut deep! That's not a trait I'm proud of, but I wasn't gonna just let strangers who didn't know me from Adam, get the last word on me especially the older I got!!!! And that lead to physical altercations, and at times through my adult life (being HAPPY GOD MADE ME THE WAY HE DID) could not keep those words from making me confrontational. I'm embarrassed to say that at 50, I still am at war w myself over the words of people who don't mean squat in my life! Think about what it can do to an 11 yr old to be called names by grown ups, that he'd have to ask his Moma to define for him??? Or at least I did! Just because I ran barrels? They had evidently not been watching the BFA Futuity shows on Americas Horse on TNN!!! Lol And hearing the things people would say as I went through school, that we're starting to hit home! Societies views on things have changed 10 fold, Thank God! But in the mid 80's you know how it was! So I don't wanna make this any more about me than I have already, but when the word stigma came up, and In my home state, I'm sorry, so sorry-but the nerve had been hit!!!! So I'm very appreciative to those of you, who had wonderful welcoming and sincere comments. And I'm really not THAT deep, nor do I take myself that serious(hence my user name) and I love to laugh especially at my own expense -which might not really be something I wanna be bragging about...????? But hey maybe y'all can help me understand myself better ?!?!? Except the Lizard Lot Lady, I'm gonna leave that alone! Happy Barrel Racing in 2019!!!!!!
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-14 10:14 PM
Hey Bear, kiddo this is not on you! I take responsibility for all of it! And you just used a word that I've dealt w that went along w being a guy barrel racer to a bunch of backwoods nobody's! Being gay is NOT a preference or a choice, it's how God in heaven made me, and God doesn't make mistakes! The proper term is sexual orientation, not preference, I'm just giving you a lil FYI that may help you in the future and be "politically correct" which in today's political world, doesn't say much! So you did nothing wrong and I apologize to you! I'm gonna pm another person On here to see your riding, she said you were awesome! Again I'm the one that's to blame and I'm so sorry!!!!
No sweat! I’ve heard all the terms. It’s just a non-issue with me, honestly. I get a kick out of our gay friends and we always poke fun at each other....political correctness be dammed. We don’t take each other too seriously. Being around gay people hasn’t changed my testosterone or my sexual orientation. Like I said, the stigma bothered me a little, but not for long. I’m just not that insecure.
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 Location: Vinita, Okla. | Bear, you sound like a really bright, intelligent and CLASSY young man. YOU did not offend me, you just were putting it out there like it was stated to you, from here, there, over there, & where ever! You weren't aware the most defensive gay man on earth was about to rear a not so Pretty look for all of this very world he loves to see! Lol I own it! And I apologize a zillion times over. Not a guy I know, gay, straight, black, white, blue, polka dotted,etc that rides, raises, breeds, or trains barrel horses as I do, has let those few words stop them from doing it, and that would be giving them more power over me than I've already done. One point I wanted to express more than anything is that this doesn't have to be how another group of youngsters gets to deal w growing up living to run barrels and loving the horses they do it on! And you seem like a wonderful example of how tolerance and kindness can sure make the lives of your friends and fellow barrel competitors a lil easier at least during the time you spend having fun together doing something you all love! Life can be a fickle *****, but being who God makes you and acceptance of our differences sure makes for a much happier environment doing something we all have in common!!! Can't wait to see you trick ride as well as turn n burn em! Happy Barrel Racing! | |
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   Location: Weatherford, TX | Mighty Broke - 2019-02-15 7:52 AM LOL---Bear and young man, BAHAHAHAHAHA. Bet he hasn't heard those words in the same sentence IN A WHILE. I know... I noticed the ‘young man’ thing too. I thought he’s talking about Bear?!?!
I am sure Bear was surpised at that as well and just didn’t acknowledge that part. Or maybe, Bear let it just go, so we would all think he was 20 something. LOL
Welcome to BHW, PBC! Hope you return and continue posting. 
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | Pretty Boy Can Man - 2019-02-15 4:18 AM Bear, you sound like a really bright, intelligent and CLASSY young man. YOU did not offend me, you just were putting it out there like it was stated to you, from here, there, over there, & where ever! You weren't aware the most defensive gay man on earth was about to rear a not so Pretty look for all of this very world he loves to see! Lol I own it! And I apologize a zillion times over. Not a guy I know, gay, straight, black, white, blue, polka dotted,etc that rides, raises, breeds, or trains barrel horses as I do, has let those few words stop them from doing it, and that would be giving them more power over me than I've already done. One point I wanted to express more than anything is that this doesn't have to be how another group of youngsters gets to deal w growing up living to run barrels and loving the horses they do it on! And you seem like a wonderful example of how tolerance and kindness can sure make the lives of your friends and fellow barrel competitors a lil easier at least during the time you spend having fun together doing something you all love! Life can be a fickle *****, but being who God makes you and acceptance of our differences sure makes for a much happier environment doing something we all have in common!!! Can't wait to see you trick ride as well as turn n burn em! Happy Barrel Racing!
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | OK, thanks, Gator, Mighty Broke, and NJJ....here I was basking in my glory like Walter Mitty, and you all just HAD to burst my bubble.
I had visions of this young, dashing, handsome, trick riding, 1D winning, stud...and you as$holes had to tease me and remind me of reality. I was feeling like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz....then auntie Em, Hank, and Toto woke me up to remind me that I’m a fat, wrinkly, gray, bald, horny old man.....with a pretty wife. I’ve been to one jackpot in the last year, so my chances of winning the American are starting to fade. | |
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| Bear - 2019-02-15 9:09 AM OK, thanks, Gator, Mighty Broke, and NJJ....here I was basking in my glory like Walter Mitty, and you all just HAD to burst my bubble. I had visions of this young, dashing, handsome, trick riding, 1D winning, stud...and you as$holes had to tease me and remind me of reality. I was feeling like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz....then auntie Em, Hank, and Toto woke me up to remind me that I’m a fat, wrinkly, gray, bald, horny old man.....with a pretty wife. I’ve been to one jackpot in the last year, so my chances of winning the American are starting to fade.
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