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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-06-10 1:21 PM
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SKM - 2019-06-10 12:58 PM


I did find it highly amusing that TS was questioning the morals of marketing horses unscrupulously. Pot...meet kettle.


These type just dont have no SHAME when it comes to money..They will do anything for that old mighty dollar 

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-06-10 1:27 PM
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I'm home sick today, so bear with me on my slow-on-the-uptake mind. . . Would this be done to up the value of unknown mare/her foals?   Like substituting Peyton Manning for a high school QB so high schooler can get straight to NFL offers?  

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rpreast
Reg. Nov 2015
Posted 2019-06-10 1:41 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-10 12:27 PM


I'm home sick today, so bear with me on my slow-on-the-uptake mind. . . Would this be done to up the value of unknown mare/her foals?   Like substituting Peyton Manning for a high school QB so high schooler can get straight to NFL offers?  


Exactly.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-06-10 1:44 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-10 1:27 PM


I'm home sick today, so bear with me on my slow-on-the-uptake mind. . . Would this be done to up the value of unknown mare/her foals?   Like substituting Peyton Manning for a high school QB so high schooler can get straight to NFL offers?  


Pretty much..

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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2019-06-10 1:47 PM
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streakysox - 2019-06-10 9:39 AM

Why would anyone care what name a person ran a horse under?  I don’t see where it is a big issue. I have a hard enough time tending to my own business at a barrel race much less checking to see what horse a person is running. I would think a producer has enough to do without going back and changing names to be reported to equbase too. I had a horse accidentally listed with the wrong name (right words wrong order) at a large barrel race. I contacted the office and never did get the name corrected.  

Secondly, if my horse wins second in the 1D behind a horse that is an NFR qualifier and known tough competitor, the stats for my horse and the dollar value he's worth increases.  If my horse runs second in the 1D behind a horse who has mostly 3D stats elsewhere, maybe my horse isn't a true 1D horse either.  Not only does it affect the two horses in question and their viable statistics and credentials, but every single horse that ran behind the two horses in question.  That's a big part of the problem here as well.  A horse that ran second to (or a half second off of - or whatever) "Sister" is worth a whole heck of alot more than a horse who ran second to (or a second off of) "Sister's" sister, who ironically looks alot like the real Sister, but is usually a 3D horse.  Make sense?  This switcharoo affected the credentials of every single horse in that jackpot.  There are alot of people who take that very seriously and are making a living training and selling horses who do and should take this kind of thing very seriously.  If we were at a playday, I don't care if the horse is entered as Mickey Mouse, but at a decent sized jackpot with some really nice horses, a futurity, derby, etc....this is clearly a problem.



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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-06-10 1:48 PM
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I thank both of y'all!!!

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reese_tx
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2019-06-10 1:48 PM
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SKM - 2019-06-10 12:58 PM


I did find it highly amusing that TS was questioning the morals of marketing horses unscrupulously. Pot...meet kettle.


where is the mic drop emoji when I need it?  I was waiting for this to be said.

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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2019-06-10 2:08 PM
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s_tellar - 2019-06-10 9:43 AM


streakysox - 2019-06-10 9:39 AM


Why would anyone care what name a person ran a horse under?  I don’t see where it is a big issue. I have a hard enough time tending to my own business at a barrel race much less checking to see what horse a person is running. I would think a producer has enough to do without going back and changing names to be reported to equbase too. I had a horse accidentally listed with the wrong name (right words wrong order) at a large barrel race. I contacted the office and never did get the name corrected.  



Because when it is submitted to equistat those earnings would be under the wrong horse, which in turn can up the value of the horse when sold. 


Because when you enter multiple horses - it's cheating to run the wrong one under a name.  Many of the big shows will disqualify you for that.  It skews results and is simply dishonest.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-06-10 2:09 PM
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Firemanswife - 2019-06-10 1:59 PM


Can someone message me who TS is?


ha ha ha ha , I can't figure that one out myself

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cranky B4 10am
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2019-06-10 2:12 PM
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Firemanswife - 2019-06-10 1:59 PM


Can someone message me who TS is?


And me...

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*almost there*
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2019-06-10 2:15 PM
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Alright, can someone PM me what the heck is going on, and who TS is?  

 

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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-06-10 2:40 PM
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TS was a poster here. She was Queenie then went to Tara & Mordis. She now sells horses out of a kill pen in LA that her husband/boyfriend and his dad own.

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-06-10 2:49 PM
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cranky B4 10am - 2019-06-10 2:12 PM


Firemanswife - 2019-06-10 1:59 PM


Can someone message me who TS is?



And me...


And me cause I thought I knew but now don't think I do. . . 

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*almost there*
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2019-06-10 3:06 PM
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So, I'm now caught up to date and I've seen the fb post myself, I'm just wondering. . . Why does this person in question constantly threaten law suits. . . To multiple people. . .

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-06-10 3:20 PM
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*almost there* - 2019-06-10 3:06 PM


So, I'm now caught up to date and I've seen the fb post myself, I'm just wondering. . . Why does this person in question constantly threaten law suits. . . To multiple people. . .


That's usually a guilty persons way of trying to protect themselves. If it was all truly transparent and truly a mistake or misunderstanding, it should have been addressed publicly instead of just staying quiet and collecting the check. Instead of threatening people or threatening lawsuits. That, IMO, just makes you look more guilty. Shame on her, she wants to be a "pillar of the barrel racing community " especially for young future of the sport barrel racers, that's not how you get ahead, by cheating, threatening lawsuits when you get called out or questioned. My daughter doesnt follow her or even give her a 2nd thought and I'm glad for it. 

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horsegirl
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2019-06-10 3:40 PM
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Can someone please message me with a name of who did this? I saw Fallon mention the scheme on her blog the other day, but didn’t know what the heck she was talking about. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2019-06-10 3:51 PM
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SKM - 2019-06-10 2:40 PM


TS was a poster here. She was Queenie then went to Tara & Mordis. She now sells horses out of a kill pen in LA that her husband/boyfriend and his dad own.


I googled her and all I can say is OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!! How in the Heck can people get away with this Cra*..

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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2019-06-10 4:30 PM
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If anyone wants the names, they can PM me and I’ll reply. 

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Chandler's Mom
Reg. Jan 2015
Posted 2019-06-10 5:06 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-10 3:51 PM


SKM - 2019-06-10 2:40 PM


TS was a poster here. She was Queenie then went to Tara & Mordis. She now sells horses out of a kill pen in LA that her husband/boyfriend and his dad own.



I googled her and all I can say is OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!! How in the Heck can people get away with this Cra*..


I see more than one similarity between these two from just taking a quick peek at social media. . . Or maybe it's just me 

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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2019-06-10 6:07 PM
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Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-10 5:06 PM


Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-10 3:51 PM


SKM - 2019-06-10 2:40 PM


TS was a poster here. She was Queenie then went to Tara & Mordis. She now sells horses out of a kill pen in LA that her husband/boyfriend and his dad own.



I googled her and all I can say is OH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!! How in the Heck can people get away with this Cra*..



I see more than one similarity between these two from just taking a quick peek at social media. . . Or maybe it's just me 


Lots of live videos happening now. I guess a few nerves were struck lol! 

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