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Location: Montana | He's supposed to be the best in the area and I thought he'd be out further, but I guess everyone is busy over the 4th, lol. Hope to get some answers soon! | |
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| Glad you booked a vet exam! I hope you get some answers. He's not keeping his shoulder up, and is dropping it going into every turn. Do you have a trainer you take regular lessons with? | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | My goodness that horse has alot of heart, you can really see that hes got problems in the hind end, that one video were you circle its the 34 second video you can see where his stifle catches or his hock dont hold up very well where his kinda collapsed or folds that hock.. You can even see it coming out of the third barrel.. Hes hurts, I hope that you up date after the vet visit.. So I say physical, hold off on running him untill you get a answer, thats a nice horse you have there, I would hate seeing him run again..
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Location: Montana | Not regular lessons because she is 90 miles away, but I do go to her on things and see her at races. | |
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Location: Montana | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-24 8:56 PM
My goodness that horse has alot of heart, you can really see that hes got problems in the hind end, that one video were you circle its the 34 second video you can see where his stifle catches or his hock dont hold up very well where his kinda collapsed or folds that hock.. You can even see it coming out of the third barrel.. Hes hurts, I hope that you up date after the vet visit.. So I say physical, hold off on running him untill you get a answer, thats a nice horse you have there, I would hate seeing him run again..
Thanks for your input, Roxie, I trust your opinion. I knew something was wrong but wasn't feeling it just riding other than he started dropping in his turns, which isnt like him. I thought it was my riding, so was trying to work on what I was doing with him. I can't feel any heat in his legs or any noticeable swelling so I'm thinking it isnt soft tissue, but you never know. I'm interested to see what the vet says. | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-24 10:07 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-24 8:56 PM
My goodness that horse has alot of heart, you can really see that hes got problems in the hind end, that one video were you circle its the 34 second video you can see where his stifle catches or his hock dont hold up very well where his kinda collapsed or folds that hock.. You can even see it coming out of the third barrel.. Hes hurts, I hope that you up date after the vet visit.. So I say physical, hold off on running him untill you get a answer, thats a nice horse you have there, I would hate seeing him run again..
Thanks for your input, Roxie, I trust your opinion. I knew something was wrong but wasn't feeling it just riding other than he started dropping in his turns, which isnt like him. I thought it was my riding, so was trying to work on what I was doing with him. I can't feel any heat in his legs or any noticeable swelling so I'm thinking it isnt soft tissue, but you never know. I'm interested to see what the vet says.
If you keep watching that one video you can really see something is going on, Im no expert but he looks really off, I watched that video over and over and over, even when your going into the second barrel it looks like hes sticks his back legs or leg into the ground and that cause him to hit that barrel, its like he could not bring his hind end up under himself very well, He looks like a sweet and honest boy and trying his best but his hind end wont work for him.. | |
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Location: Montana | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-24 9:19 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-24 10:07 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-24 8:56 PM
My goodness that horse has alot of heart, you can really see that hes got problems in the hind end, that one video were you circle its the 34 second video you can see where his stifle catches or his hock dont hold up very well where his kinda collapsed or folds that hock.. You can even see it coming out of the third barrel.. Hes hurts, I hope that you up date after the vet visit.. So I say physical, hold off on running him untill you get a answer, thats a nice horse you have there, I would hate seeing him run again..
Thanks for your input, Roxie, I trust your opinion. I knew something was wrong but wasn't feeling it just riding other than he started dropping in his turns, which isnt like him. I thought it was my riding, so was trying to work on what I was doing with him. I can't feel any heat in his legs or any noticeable swelling so I'm thinking it isnt soft tissue, but you never know. I'm interested to see what the vet says.
If you keep watching that one video you can really see something is going on, Im no expert but he looks really off, I watched that video over and over and over, even when your going into the second barrel it looks like hes sticks his back legs or leg into the ground and that cause him to hit that barrel, its like he could not bring his hind end up under himself very well, He looks like a sweet and honest boy and trying his best but his hind end wont work for him..
It just started about that May 15 run, as far as I know, because I ran him May 4 and we had a really nice run indoors. I love that horse and it really bothers me because we started off the year so well. He doesn't have a ton of runs (less than 20) and I don't haul hard, but when they are using their body hard I'm sure things happen. | |
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Location: Arkansas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-24 10:48 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-24 9:19 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-24 10:07 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-24 8:56 PM
My goodness that horse has alot of heart, you can really see that hes got problems in the hind end, that one video were you circle its the 34 second video you can see where his stifle catches or his hock dont hold up very well where his kinda collapsed or folds that hock.. You can even see it coming out of the third barrel.. Hes hurts, I hope that you up date after the vet visit.. So I say physical, hold off on running him untill you get a answer, thats a nice horse you have there, I would hate seeing him run again..
Thanks for your input, Roxie, I trust your opinion. I knew something was wrong but wasn't feeling it just riding other than he started dropping in his turns, which isnt like him. I thought it was my riding, so was trying to work on what I was doing with him. I can't feel any heat in his legs or any noticeable swelling so I'm thinking it isnt soft tissue, but you never know. I'm interested to see what the vet says.
If you keep watching that one video you can really see something is going on, Im no expert but he looks really off, I watched that video over and over and over, even when your going into the second barrel it looks like hes sticks his back legs or leg into the ground and that cause him to hit that barrel, its like he could not bring his hind end up under himself very well, He looks like a sweet and honest boy and trying his best but his hind end wont work for him..
It just started about that May 15 run, as far as I know, because I ran him May 4 and we had a really nice run indoors. I love that horse and it really bothers me because we started off the year so well. He doesn't have a ton of runs (less than 20) and I don't haul hard, but when they are using their body hard I'm sure things happen.
I'm glad he belongs to a caring person who's got his best interest at heart. . . Good luck and hoping for good report | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck  | |
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Location: Montana | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here! | |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 2:53 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here!
Yes opossums and I think there are other hosts too, but here in Texas opossums are a problem, horses can pick up this disease from being out in pastures or getting it from hay.. Thats good that you dont have opossums where you are at.. Epm kinda poped into my tiny brain when I reread you post about him sliping or finding a hole that made his hindend go out from under him.. | |
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Location: Montana | Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 2:03 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 2:53 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here!
Yes opossums and I think there are other hosts too, but here in Texas opossums are a problem, horses can pick up this disease from being out in pastures or getting it from hay.. Thats good that you dont have opossums where you are at.. Epm kinda poped into my tiny brain when I reread you post about him sliping or finding a hole that made his hindend go out from under him..
I'm not doubting you, I just haven't heard of EPM in our area before.  We have other rodents (skunks, rock chucks, gophers, mice, etc.) but not opossums | |
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Location: Arkansas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 5:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 2:03 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 2:53 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here!
Yes opossums and I think there are other hosts too, but here in Texas opossums are a problem, horses can pick up this disease from being out in pastures or getting it from hay.. Thats good that you dont have opossums where you are at.. Epm kinda poped into my tiny brain when I reread you post about him sliping or finding a hole that made his hindend go out from under him..
I'm not doubting you, I just haven't heard of EPM in our area before. We have other rodents (skunks, rock chucks, gophers, mice, etc.) but not opossums
Y'all know I am not tech advanced! But here's a little info! | |
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Location: Montana | Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-25 6:42 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 5:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 2:03 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 2:53 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here!
Yes opossums and I think there are other hosts too, but here in Texas opossums are a problem, horses can pick up this disease from being out in pastures or getting it from hay.. Thats good that you dont have opossums where you are at.. Epm kinda poped into my tiny brain when I reread you post about him sliping or finding a hole that made his hindend go out from under him..
I'm not doubting you, I just haven't heard of EPM in our area before. We have other rodents (skunks, rock chucks, gophers, mice, etc.) but not opossums
Y'all know I am not tech advanced! But here's a little info!
We do have raccoons too, so maybe. | |
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Location: Arkansas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 9:30 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-25 6:42 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 5:13 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 2:03 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 2:53 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here!
Yes opossums and I think there are other hosts too, but here in Texas opossums are a problem, horses can pick up this disease from being out in pastures or getting it from hay.. Thats good that you dont have opossums where you are at.. Epm kinda poped into my tiny brain when I reread you post about him sliping or finding a hole that made his hindend go out from under him..
I'm not doubting you, I just haven't heard of EPM in our area before. We have other rodents (skunks, rock chucks, gophers, mice, etc.) but not opossums
Y'all know I am not tech advanced! But here's a little info!
We do have raccoons too, so maybe.
We have the luck of having all those listed except the otter! | |
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Location: Missouri | Chandler's Mom - 2019-06-25 11:24 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 2:03 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-25 2:53 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-06-25 1:50 PM
mtcanchazer - 2019-06-22 4:23 PM
My grey horse has been "off" running barrels...but I can't pinpoint what it is. He rides out good, doesn't take a lame step, but we have been hitting barrels, mianly 2nd, and today 2nd and 3rd. This is the same horse I thought I wasn't clicking with but I'm trying to rule out all possibilities before saying that for sure. Here's a couple of videos, one we hit 2nd barrel (just slammed into it), the other a pretty decent run (bottom of the 1D). Today we ran again (no video, the girl I asked forgot, LOL), but we had a pretty bad slip on the backside of 1st, he felt like he found a hole and his back end went out from under him, and then proceeded to hit 2nd and 3rd. What am I not seeing? Is it a hole in training or something physical? Please be kind, because I'm truly discouraged but I don't know where to look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfL7LJtic4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsYGZztmXfo
Reading that his hind end went out from under him and then hitting 2nd and 3rd barrel, I think since you are taking him to the vet I would also ask about EPM, EMP can really mess with a horses hind end, it would be a question if I were having hind end issues on my horse along with question about hocks and stiffles. I hope that you get a good outcome once you get your horse looked at from this vet.. Good luck
Isn't EPM cause by opossum droppings? Just curious because we don't have opossums up here!
Yes opossums and I think there are other hosts too, but here in Texas opossums are a problem, horses can pick up this disease from being out in pastures or getting it from hay.. Thats good that you dont have opossums where you are at.. Epm kinda poped into my tiny brain when I reread you post about him sliping or finding a hole that made his hindend go out from under him..
I'm not doubting you, I just haven't heard of EPM in our area before. We have other rodents (skunks, rock chucks, gophers, mice, etc.) but not opossums
Y'all know I am not tech advanced! But here's a little info!
We do have raccoons too, so maybe.
We have the luck of having all those listed except the otter!
If you don't have opposums, consider yourself super lucky! I may move there and avoid another case of EPM...harsh winters or not. LOL!!! But in all seriousness, it may be worth asking your vet about just to rule it out. If caught early, treatment is usually a breeze. My mare came back 100% in a matter of months. | |
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Location: Montana | We don't have opossums, have to go further south to see them. You can take my share of rattlesnakes though! LOL. I feel like I'm holding my breath in suspense for the 5th, but I will update. Hopefully nothing too serious. | |
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Location: Arkansas | mtcanchazer - 2019-06-26 10:51 AM
We don't have opossums, have to go further south to see them. You can take my share of rattlesnakes though! LOL.
I feel like I'm holding my breath in suspense for the 5th, but I will update. Hopefully nothing too serious.
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Location: Arkansas | 1DSoon - 2019-06-26 6:18 AM
you have Otters in R kansas
Guess I should have clarified---SEA otters | |
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