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| WetSaddleBlankets - 2019-12-19 5:39 PM madredepeanut - 2019-12-19 4:12 PM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri. Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats  This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess. Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities 
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Location: Texas | madredepeanut - 2019-12-20 7:22 AM WetSaddleBlankets - 2019-12-19 5:39 PM madredepeanut - 2019-12-19 4:12 PM JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri. Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess. Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities Actually, radiographs only show abscesses if they produce gas. A Lot of them are only fluid filled, which will make them disguise in the bone around them. Of all the abscesses I diagnose, I would say less than 50% actually have a gas pocket on an x ray. ETA- while yall think its just so easy and how dumb that vet could possibly be, if the horse presented lik a typical hoof abscess, most of the time you wouldn't even need to take an x ray because you would find a focal spot on the foot thats super responsive to hoof testers. So, something had to be off with that patient. But hey yall can come do our job any day and see how much fun you'd have.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | casualdust07 - 2019-12-19 9:27 AM
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JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM
redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM
The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri.
Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot
I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats
This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess.
Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities
Actually, radiographs only show abscesses if they produce gas. A Lot of them are only fluid filled, which will make them disguise in the bone around them. Of all the abscesses I diagnose, I would say less than 50% actually have a gas pocket on an x ray.
ETA- while yall think its just so easy and how dumb that vet could possibly be, if the horse presented lik a typical hoof abscess, most of the time you wouldn't even need to take an x ray because you would find a focal spot on the foot thats super responsive to hoof testers. So, something had to be off with that patient. But hey yall can come do our job any day and see how much fun you'd have.
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madredepeanut - 2019-12-19 4:12 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM
redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM
The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri.
Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot
I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats
This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess.
Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities
Oh it was horrible. The frustrating thing was my horse was very ever so slightly off for 3 months. Lightly sensitive to hoof testers in the heel. Off mostly in a tight circle. Nothing showed up on the x rays. Blocked sore in foot. His diagnosis was caudle heel pain. Recommend MRI to see how to go forward for shoeing ect... Well... It it ended up being a deep subsolar abscess. The referral vet re x rayed before the MRI and nothing showed up so in Their defense LOL | |
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madredepeanut - 2019-12-20 7:22 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2019-12-19 5:39 PM
madredepeanut - 2019-12-19 4:12 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM
redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM
The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri.
Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot
I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats
This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess.
Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities
Actually, radiographs only show abscesses if they produce gas. A Lot of them are only fluid filled, which will make them disguise in the bone around them. Of all the abscesses I diagnose, I would say less than 50% actually have a gas pocket on an x ray.
ETA- while yall think its just so easy and how dumb that vet could possibly be, if the horse presented lik a typical hoof abscess, most of the time you wouldn't even need to take an x ray because you would find a focal spot on the foot thats super responsive to hoof testers. So, something had to be off with that patient. But hey yall can come do our job any day and see how much fun you'd have.
My husband is a vet, I was a technician before starting a new career so I understand how tough it is and not every case presents so easily. There are obviously exceptions to everything and the case I am referring to would have been solved with a simple set of radiographs (which were taken after the MRI and showed the abscess). By no means am I referring to ALL vets, I didn't mean to come across that way and I probably shouldn't have sounded so bitter, so for those things I apologize. The vet I was referring to is one I would never trust to treat my horses, and should have had his license suspended on more than one occasion. | |
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madredepeanut - 2019-12-19 4:12 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM
redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM
The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri.
Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot
I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats
This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess.
Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities
Oh it was horrible. The frustrating thing was my horse was very ever so slightly off for 3 months. Lightly sensitive to hoof testers in the heel. Off mostly in a tight circle. Nothing showed up on the x rays. Blocked sore in foot. His diagnosis was caudle heel pain. Recommend MRI to see how to go forward for shoeing ect... Well... It it ended up being a deep subsolar abscess. The referral vet re x rayed before the MRI and nothing showed up so in Their defense LOL
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WetSaddleBlankets - 2019-12-20 11:12 AM
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madredepeanut - 2019-12-19 4:12 PM
JLazyT_perf_horses - 2019-12-18 1:17 PM
redmanth - 2019-12-18 2:53 PM
The vet blocked him starting down going up on on his left from foot. He couldn't find where he started limping. He xrayed just the foot. He told me we where down to a mri.
Personally I would get a second opinion before doing an MRI, if you are even planning on forking that money over in the future. You need to have a good idea of where its at before doing the MRI anyway. I would find the best lameness vet around where you're located. They might pick up on something this other one missed or have a better eye of where the lamness is at just doing a basic eval. I've had my local vet not even notice a lameness that another vet picked up immediately and knew exactly what part of the leg it was coming from. I had one on another horse tell me she looked like she had a tendon injury and it ended up being fractured vertebrae and kissing spine, you just never know. If he didn't take xrays of all angles of the foot then he could have missed something there too. It took us 7 shots to get the right image to show my geldings navilcular on that foot
I also agree about getting a second opinion before doing an MRI. A vet I know recommended an MRI for a lame horse and they ended up finding an abscess... could have just found that with some radiographs, but he insisted on the MRI and the owners followed like the Pied Piper's rats
This happened to me too! I was referred for the MRI by the original diagnosing vet... I'll never forget walking into the exam room and seeing the look on the referral vet's face that did the MRI right before he told me! I was happy but sick I spent 2400 dollars on an abcsess.
Most expensive abscess of your life, right? At least you ended up with a diagnosis, and luckily a super easy fix compared to what it could have been! But I still feel your pain!! I'm hoping the vet you're referring to made some changes to his lameness diagnostic protocol, sadly I don't think the vet I'm referring to was even mildly concerned about gouging his client's pocketbooks or his diagnostic abilities
Oh it was horrible. The frustrating thing was my horse was very ever so slightly off for 3 months. Lightly sensitive to hoof testers in the heel. Off mostly in a tight circle. Nothing showed up on the x rays. Blocked sore in foot. His diagnosis was caudle heel pain. Recommend MRI to see how to go forward for shoeing ect... Well... It it ended up being a deep subsolar abscess. The referral vet re x rayed before the MRI and nothing showed up so in Their defense LOL
Exactly my point.
I completely agree with you! I highly respect both vets and I was so relieved in the end it was what it ended up being! Like the vet that did the MRI said, my horse is young and we know for sure he has healthy front feet from the pastern down. He was 7 at the time. It was a tough case that showed no typical symptoms of an abscess! Before the MRI I had no doubt from the conclusion of the diagnosis that it was for sure navicular syndrome. His symptoms pointed right to it! Thats why it's amazing if some people could afford something like a MRI more often because look what you can find out... It may change the whole inical diagnosis. But unfortunately since its so expensive... | |
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