I'm giving him 2grams of bute once a day per the vets instructions.... he said for 7 consecutive days with the bute. I've thought about pulling his feed. But vet gave me a powder to give him to help with his thyroid said put it on his grain. His grain is now 10% NSC. I give only a pound twice a day. Not even the recommended amount of this feed which is supposed to be designed for this type of thing.  I'm willing to try pretty much anything at this point. That I can afford, that is. My stalls are big ... 12 x 24  hes got plenty of room to move, lay down, roll etc etc... problem is, he doesnt! He stands in 1 spot when hes stalled.  

We put up our hay in june/july every year.... this year we did 2nd cutting. 

Your vet needs to test him! Do it asap.  I had a 12 year old Thoroughbred mare with chronic laminitis in just one front foot. Tested for Cushings and insulin resistance and to our suprise she was positive to both.  She wasn't even over weight... And only 12!  We swtiched her to really low starch diet like triple crown lite, stopped any kind of pasture turn out, and put her on Cushings med prascend. She never really had an issue again. Yearly I'd retest her just to check her ACTH levels for Cushings and insulin since that can elevate. If it does you adjust the prascend dosage. The cost is about 150 dollars or so. 

Also if your horse is having active laminitis I would not be turning him out. He should be bedded deep in a stall. Any extra concussion on his feet is not good. I also had a mare that reacted to a weed in our hay back in 2014. This was new hay we started feeding... 8 horses on it and she was the only one who had a problem. We didn't even know what it was right away.  She spent 7 days at our University vet. Luckily she got better once pulled off the hay.  When she was at the vet they put soft rides on and said it was really important to stall to limit coffin bone displacement increasing the chance of rotation. 

second cutting hay will usually test way high for what you are trying to avoid.

Well there isnt much I can do about it at this point with the hay situation.  I've got 100 plus bales in my barn and really no other options but to just soak it out. My sister in laws mare is on the exact same hay from the exact same field and cutting, her mare had extreme laminitis with rotation and she feeds her this hay, not even soaked, our vet didnt advise it to be soaked... her horse made a full recovery with being barefoot and trimmed, stalled, turned out with a muzzle and fed well solve in tiny amounts... plus shes in foal ... idk.. I'm just exhausted from reading everything and everyone including vets say different things ... I'm just sick over it. I cant afford more testing or supplements or special this or that.. I'm sorry I'm just defeated 

Hang in there!  I would ice his feet as much as possible!  at least morning and night  It will help. 

Thank you, that's what my farrier said to do. I'm going to do it today. I just feel like whatever decision I make is the wrong one with him! Thinking about trying some stuff called speedi beet I can get from a local friend to try and just giving him a vit/min mix with it instead of grain... the speedi beet is only 5% sugar and literally no starch.... its inexpensive and right up the road from me. Every grain or ration balancer out here has molasses, soy, grain products, alfalfa and anywhere from 10 to 14% NSC  all of which I've been reading are bad for laminitis. And seriously,  why is every support group or discussion group on laminitis on Facebook not in the US?! They are discussing and recommending things I've never even heard of lol! 

When deciding remember that the NSC level is based on the recommended feeding rate. If you have a higher fat feed that you can feed less of, then your NSC will be lower. When I fed my horses the Pro Force Fuel they were barely getting any and keeping weight, and the NSC was way lower than whats listed. The one I feed now has no corn or molasses in it and is 13.5% NSC based on at least 4 lbs feeding. Mine eat half that which lowers the total NSC intake. But I agree with above statement, while an attack is happening pull as much grain from him as you can. If you have powder he needs to get in him wet some grain down and mix the powder with it. You could also probably get by with doing 2g bute in am and 1g at night. I won't hesitate to give mine 3-4g short term for intense pain like that. You mentioned packing his feet with a diaper, you can soak the diapers in water & freeze them & wrap them around the foot for icing. You could probably even stick soem ice cubes inside after you wrap it. Diapers are super handy in a barn 

Once you get this horse back to feeling better and can move around without much pain I would not stall him up for anything anymore just a large pen, I went and bought portable panels to extend Melvins pen and fenced off a area for his own use so he can run and play but unable to get to green grass. The more they can move around and keep that blood flowing in thier hooves the better He gets one and a half pound ofTriple Crown Lite morning and evening and MVP anti-carb supplement, hes been off his Thyrol-L for a little over a year now and just gets the MVP anti-carb and Forgo, older hay thats not heavy fertilize unfertilize hay is alot better for him, no other supplements, hes got thin soles so I keep shoes on his fronts, he did go barefooted for a couple of months because of a abscess in his left but put shoes back on once we won that war on the abscess from he**. Theres going to be trial and error, but you will find what works and not work as you go along, hes just not going to beable to go out to pasture like the others anymore, I do let Melvin go out now since the freeze has killed off all the good grass and during the summer months when its dry as in no rain for a hour or two once a week. New spring grass is the worst. The best thing I could do for Melvin when he got to feeling better is give him alot of room to move around in, they need to beable to keep the blood flowing in their hooves by walking and running. Good luck..

Thank yall! Yes today we are icing him ... then my husband is going to make a temporary run off his stall so he can get outside ... I've also got a load of brick sand coming to put in his stall and run... my husbands cousins own a dirt hauling company so we are fortunate there... I'm going to try the beet  pulp and she also suggested coolstance in tiny amounts which she also carrys ... she said she has a horse that was exactly like mine ... we are small town and we all go to the same vet ... she said the vet told her to put the horse down or he will only be a pasture ornament... she did her research and changed his diet up and the horse is back to full use ... gives me a little hope ... but cautiously optimistic..... ice boots, softrides, proper trimming, possibly barefoot or special shoes if he needs them and NO GRAIN. I'm only giving him soaked hay for now ...he wont touch his x factor anyway.. which is so odd because that stuff smells amazing! Like cotton candy my kids say. Hopefully he will like the speedi beet and coolstance 

Frozen diapers! Genius idea! Thank you! I was up all night checking on him.. I was relieved to see him laying down in his stall... he rarely does that... I was hoping hed take a load off soon and rest... instead of just standing in 1 spot all night. He laid down for about 20 minutes then he was back up. I'm anxiously waiting for the softrides to arrive!  The packing with magic cushion and diapers seemed to offer very little relief but I did notice he was standing more straight up and down instead of leaning back on his hind feet so much. I may bute him a little more this morning instead of waiting till the evening. I also have a vial of banamine available. 

I went out and checked on him a few minutes ago.. hes actually walking about 30% better! He followed me to his feed bucket which he had eaten the feed last night but managed to leave the powder behind.. the thyro-l... naughty boy! I decided to hang his hay net up to head level so he doesnt have to lower his head down to eat and put more pressure on his front end... for now anyway.. I know its more natural to feed with head down and I usually do that. He seems happier with this right now.. this is the straightest ive seen him standing within the last several days I feel a little better right now .... I never know what I'm going to see when I walk out to the barn right now

Hes going to be just fine as the days go by he'll get better. You need to look into the MVP ani-carb, its a pellet supplement and he will eat it, since the Thyro-L is a power my gelding hardly ate it, since his feed is a pellet too the powder would just go straight to the bottom of his feeder, the ani-carb no problem he eats it well. My gelding hates all power supplements.. 

Is that similar to the thyro-l ? He never has been a picky eater but boy he sure doesnt like the powder! He will eat the x factor right from my hand but not with the powder 

I'd put him on Heiro. I fed it to my IR horse for many years and it works amazing, and it won't break the bank.

Where do I find that? I'm really planning on taking him off all grain and doing the speedi- beet with coolstance with a vit/min mix. California trace plus comes highly recommended for laminitis horses from what I've read. Im still researching but so far the common denominator seems to be removing grain, molasses and excess sugars for success and avoiding heavy amounts of alfalfa 

I found it, thank you. That looks like a wonderful product with the vitamin E and magnesium.. both of which was recommended for laminitis horses. I do use Mag Restore on my other horse so I know the benefits from supplementing magnesium.  I was just thinking he probably could benefit from extra vitamin e since he cant be on grass ... the Heiro seems to cover those bases. 

I had my gelding on Heiro for a year and never saw a difference, the MVP products have been the Best, you have your Anti-Carbs and the D-Carb and these have been the only products that worked best in his case. But every horse is different.. MVP is a really good company and will answer all your questions if you call them.

Just an idea, something that helped me ice my horse's feet when I couldn't get him to pick them up. Fill a safeway type bag about half full of ice, and tie the bag around his ankles. Then drape the bag over and around his whole foot :) Wish I had a pic to show you better! I hope I'm explaining it ok enough.