Even most of the most liberal Democrats have abandoned the Trump-Putin-collusion line of attack.  The only thing remaining to be revealed about the attempted coup is forthcoming......John Durham is putting that together.

Now, to be clear, Vickie, I don't doubt that our enemies have been up to mischief.  They will do whatever they can to create or enhance chaos, deeper-wider divisions, and anarchy, with the goal of us destroying ourselves. Contrary to popular belief, neither Russia nor China can defeat us militarily. Russia has 1/10th of our military budget, and China spends 1/5th.  We are often led to believe they are a threat, militarily.  That's not true...not even close, and they know it.  China is heavily dependent on us economically, as a matter of fact.  Russia, not so much, but they do not have very much economic clout. 

Nikita Khrushchev said "America will destroy herself from within." That was over 60 years ago.  No doubt, they are trying to catalyze that. 

One thing you can be sure of is this.  Trump has had nothing whatsoever to do with any collusion with Russia. Putin doesn't give a sh!t about who wins elections in the US.  All he wants to see is what we are all seeing now....hate, chaos, upheaval, division, and anarchy.  If anything, he probably actually wanted Hillary to win. She has demonstrated she can be bought.  Trump hasn't. 

Show me a politician who doesn't lie.

Actually, while it's true that Trump has exaggerated and lied, when it comes to delivering on campaign promises, Trump has delivered like few before him. In that regard, he's been one of the most honest.  In fact, that's part of his problem in that he is unafraid to say what he thinks and seemingly loves being politically incorrect. 
None of Trump's lies has been consequential to the voters.  In contrast, Obama told huge, impactful lies that hurt a lot of people.  Here are three:

1.)  "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

2.) "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."

3.) "The ACA will result in the average, middle class family to pay $2500 less in premiums every year".

Now those were huge lies....consequential lies.  Crowd size at his inaugural and rallies?  Not so much. That's the difference between Obozo's lies and Trump's lies.

This is to Vickie. 

You do know Biden and Ovomit are the people who were in charge during that time, right?  They sent blankets.  Not military aid. Blankets.  When Trump came into office and was working with the NEW president of Ukraine he sent military aid.  

You know who influenced the 2016 election more than anyone besides the DNC, Ovomit's and Killary's own corruption and malfeasance? Google.  

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Epstein%20Testimony.pdf

 ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And this is all so darn TRUE about Obama, nailed it

Right Meep Meep, thats so darn funny about the lies that Obama told about the health plans, at least you agree about something, ha ha ha ha

So true.  It was Obama/Biden who sent MRE's and blankets to Ukraine.  Trump sent lethal, tank killer javelin missiles. 
Obama issued his now famous "red line" warning to Assad and Syria. They thumbed their nose at him and crossed it anyway, gassing tens of thousands of their own people.  Assad knew he was a spineless pussy. Obama did nothing.  
Trump came on the job.  Assad launched chemical weapon attacks again on the rebels.  Trump didn't issue a warning.  Instead, he launched about 60 precision guidedTomahawk Cruise missiles at military sites, and knocked out the runway on their largest airfield.  THEN Trump issued his warning in a televised address.  We haven't heard much from Assad since then...have we?  Trump has balls.  Obama doesn't.  
At the same time, Trump has been getting us out of the Middle East, slow but sure.  That's what caused the split with General Mattis......who, as a civilian, is on the board of directors for Rockwell.

Gen. Mattis has always been a loud mouth, but he was an exceptional war fighter so he was afforded the lattitude to run off with the mouth. 

He hates anyone that disagrees with him and that is what you are seeing witht the Pres. 

First of all I am glad you mostly agree with me about interference, except for the Trump/Putin connection.  I don't think Trump personally and intentionally worked with Putin, I think his minions did, and I and most dems (BTW I am independent) believe Putin is playing him for a fool.

And where is the proof to your claims? Please name just one if you can.

If you'll  notice Creep.Creep never contributes, only does the laughey face thing even when it involves death and destruction.  Just ignore it.  I do.

I can't argue with you because of the way you worded your remark.   You can think Trump's minions worked with Putin, but so far there's been no evidence of that.  I can say that I think Joe Biden is suffering from Alzheimer's, but I can't say it conclusively.  Here's the difference though.  Almost everyone knows that the idea of Putin and Russia helping Trump has been extremely thoroughly investigated with no supporting evidence found.......yes there are a few low-information imbeciles who refuse to let go of this baseless assertion, and that's their right.  I like having them around.  They serve as good examples for teaching purposes.

In contrast, there has been zero effort to rule out Alzheimer's in Sleepy Joe.  I don't blame them.  
Even though liberal Democrats try to explain Joe's mental status on the basis that he stutters or that he has always been prone to gaffes is delusional.  Everyone can see what's going on inside Joe's head.....and it has nothing to do with stuttering.  His mind is shot.....everyone knows it, but only half admit it.

You can assert the Putin-Russia-Trump connection all you want.  It's been disproved, whereas I can say I think Joe Biden is suffering from dementia and almost everyone agrees.

I always get a kick out of my democrat friends on fb, they claim that the right is the only side of the political spectrum with hate groups!! what a joke... they sure havent been paying attention to the riots and ANTIFA! But if you try to correct them or throw a bit of facts there way...they either unfriend or make a big deal about unfollowing....its so ridiculous its comical. NO logic whatsoever. The LEFT is what is wrong with society and to blame for all this craziness. "Progressive" politics has nothing to do with progress, its all about control. 

Trump and every person connected to him has only been investigated... What.... 5 times now? They've wasted millions of our money trying to find something.  They had to CREATE evidence to even get anybody on lying. None of them did lie, as we now see from declassified documents.  NOBODY has been prosecuted for any collusion with any foreign country. Yet the DNC, FBI, DOJ, DOD, SOS, the dem minions and Killary colluded a LOT with all kinds of countries. It was all paid for by.... drumroll please. US.  UK, Aus, Ukraine, Italy, China, etc.. all were either willing or unwilling partners. I can understand someone not wanting to believe it until about 6 months ago. After that, it was so in-your-face that anyone not seeing it has to be a braindead moron. It's all in the released emails in their own words. It's in their own testimony transcripts. They even wrote freakin' BOOKS about it.  By the way, they got great book deals. Many millions of $. Just one of many ways to launder money. Hey. they had to pay for the expensive lawyers they are going to need somehow, because they no longer work in our government.  Thank you POTUS.   

When it comes to POTUS, they've looked everywhere for anything. They can't find what they need. Proof of anything illegal. Yet they have done a lot of things that are illegal, immoral, unethical, etc... The declassification of documents and testimony is going along nicely now that many of the deep state minions that were blocking it are being found and removed. The pandemic (dem panic) was losing steam so they created another false flag event to draw attention away from the declass and the senate hearings. Defund the police? Ya that's not going to end well. There may be a few bad people in the police but I'd much rather have them than some snowflake social justice warrior telling me what I can or can't do/go/be/think about the crisis of the day. From their own lips, "Never let a good crisis go to waste".  The hysteria from the left is all you need to see to know POTUS is closing in on them and they are terrified of what's going to happen. They know their ass is grass and POTUS is a lawnmower. 

Wake up. Use your brain. Critical thinking is something you can develop. No Trump didn't work with Putin. Trump's "minions" didn't work with Putin. Mueller and HIS minions looked under every rock for 2 years and found NOTHING! But they sure created some pretty suspect non-collusion 'crimes' to put some people in trouble. To get them out of the way. To shut them up.  Like I said above, the transcripts, declassified documents etc...show exactly who was running this scam. There were minions. But they worked for the deep state.  #Obamagate.  You don't have to believe me. Just sit back and wait for it. 

So Creep.Creep why don't you come with some "facts" to support your position? I have to respect that Vickie at least tried.  You? Not so much.  Libs are usually facts-cinated so they don't have to think.  Just regurgitate the talking points of the day.   

How weird was it that Joe Biden went on the Trevor Liberal Comedian Noah show and made a big stupid remark about how Trump wouldn't leave the WH when/if he lost the presidency and Joe was absolutely certain that the military would not hesitate to escort him out.  Isn't it Hillary who whines every day of her life about how she was beaten unfairly.  I don't think, if beaten, Trump would be happy about it but a trip to the golf course, a beautiful resort home, and a loving family......he'd get over it.  If I were him it would be a welcome relief.

I found a collection of information and visuals for this topic.  The stupid dems.... 

The dems just can't stop with the patronizing and mind blowing hypocrisy. Keep reading.

Aside from the fact that the idiots didn’t do their research about the scarves they were wearing, I think this is one of the most racist displays I have ever seen. Let’s wear the colors of an African tribe and get on our knees. You know, because all blacks are African.
Except they are not. THEY ARE AMERICANS! Most blacks in this country have never seen Africa, just like I have never seen Scotland, where many of my ancestors generations back lived.

Trump would walk away proud, knowing that his decision may have cost him $700-900 million, but that was the financial sacrifice he was willing to make to peel the scab off the pus, revealing the corrupt, deep state.  He will know that he was the only president in history to make that kind of financial sacrifice.  
He will then be able to return to a life none of us can imagine.  He will sleep naked next to one of the most beautiful women on the planet, and he will enjoy watching his incredible children create lives of their own.  I can envision him with Melania, beneath the shade of a palm tree, on a beach on his private island, or maybe even Mar-A-Lago.  He won't suffer....but I think all of this will take place in 2025, regardless of what the pundits and the polls are saying.  

And that didn't take long. We have our first case of self appointed "police" violence. 

https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/06/10/capitol-hill-autonomous-zone-first-incident-self-appointed-police-violence/?fbclid=IwAR3jViLSfM6hntjjAReMBxUy4xHTd_cZyPGCCcUMlajB24wcA09KyKYV6Fg

I just can't wrap my head around the fools in this country and buy this cr*p.