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slipperyslope
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2020-09-07 2:50 PM
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I agree with Roxie - for anyone that is supporting Biden - tell us why.  (and NOT just because you don't like Trump).  I keep waiting for all the Biden supporters to actually list his qualifications & his platform & why they choose him.  Do I think Trump is a saint?  No.  And I am NOT a set Republican, I have voted both ways in the previous years.  But I have yet to see anything about Biden that tells me he would be a great leader of a country.  PLEASE do tell what his qualities are!  (again, like Roxie said, WITHOUT badmouthing Trump - leave him out of it - why is Biden the best candidate, period.)

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Delta Cowgirl
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Posted 2020-09-07 5:27 PM
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Why should I vote for Biden? Please, do tell.  As others stated, leave Trump out of it -- just tell us why we should vote for Biden, i.e. what he will do for the country? what has he done in the past (this is the big one -- with 47 + years in Washington DC, what has he actually accomplished?)? 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-09-07 6:37 PM
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slipperyslope - 2020-09-07 2:50 PM

I agree with Roxie - for anyone that is supporting Biden - tell us why.  (and NOT just because you don't like Trump).  I keep waiting for all the Biden supporters to actually list his qualifications & his platform & why they choose him.  Do I think Trump is a saint?  No.  And I am NOT a set Republican, I have voted both ways in the previous years.  But I have yet to see anything about Biden that tells me he would be a great leader of a country.  PLEASE do tell what his qualities are!  (again, like Roxie said, WITHOUT badmouthing Trump - leave him out of it - why is Biden the best candidate, period.)

I have come to the conclusion that the Biden supporters on here dont have a clue as to why they support Biden or what he can do to improve WHAT THEY THINK that needs improving/needs fixing in the USA.. They just hate Trump and they think putting Biden in the Oval Office is the answer to their hatred, So lets just put this poor old man thats got a brain issue that cant remember one day to the next into the Whitehouse, that will solve everything that they hate about Trump.. There is more then a few Biden supporters on this forum and I can name them, BUT they have never ever started a thread about Joe Biden and HAVE never pointed out any good points about him to show us what hes good for. All they ever do is start a thread to trash Trump and his family, or just hit the laugh button when they cant even come up with a answer/reason as to why they support Biden, they have not yet said why Joe is their man.. So Mecon and the other Biden supporters WHY do you SUPPORT Biden?!!!!!



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TrackinBubba
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2020-09-07 8:07 PM
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Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 

First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.

I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 

I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 

The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 

We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).

That's all for now. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-09-07 9:57 PM
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TrackinBubba - 2020-09-07 8:07 PM


Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 


First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.


I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 


I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 


The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 


We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).


That's all for now. 


Thank you!!!

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texpat
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2020-09-07 10:08 PM
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The Democrat Party is a packaged deal that comes with a lot of Anti-American baggage. In reference to your statement regarding gun control, we don't have a 2nd Amendment problem, we have a morality problem, courtesy of another crooked Democrat known as LBJ.

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TrackinBubba
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2020-09-08 2:45 AM
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texpat - 2020-09-07 11:08 PM


The Democrat Party is a packaged deal that comes with a lot of Anti-American baggage. In reference to your statement regarding gun control, we don't have a 2nd Amendment problem, we have a morality problem, courtesy of another crooked Democrat known as LBJ.


I agree we have a morality problem though I'd say the cause is bigger than that. We seem to have lost our empathy for other people. I'd rather those immoral people not have access to gnarly weapons. It's risk limitation. 

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-09-08 4:38 AM
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I often wonder "why Biden?"  Dr. Siegel analyzed Joe's health issues.  He said when you've had two brain surgeries of the nature Biden has you're assured of having some cognitive problems for the rest of your life.  Any of us who are older know your mind doesn't function like it did when you were 35 and you can't change that.  Jill Biden assured us her husband was mentally sharp and yet we all saw her lead him off the stage when he became totally confused and got that deer in the headlights look we've seen so many times.  I dunno.  Surely there was a better candidate out there somewhere for the Democrats.  Stacy Abrams mentioned she likes ole Joe because she knows as President he can be easily manipulated.  That "ain't" what you want to hear.  If his fellow Dems can easily control him, so can foreign leaders. 

 to add:  Now Joe's former stenographer says there is definitely something wrong with him.

 



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NFM
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-09-08 6:14 AM
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TrackinBubba - 2020-09-08 2:45 AM

texpat - 2020-09-07 11:08 PM

The Democrat Party is a packaged deal that comes with a lot of Anti-American baggage. In reference to your statement regarding gun control, we don't have a 2nd Amendment problem, we have a morality problem, courtesy of another crooked Democrat known as LBJ.

I agree we have a morality problem though I'd say the cause is bigger than that. We seem to have lost our empathy for other people. I'd rather those immoral people not have access to gnarly weapons. It's risk limitation. 

While I disagree with you on how those issues should be handled, you did a good job of laying out a case and not mentioning Trump. I hope you don't regret it.

I can't grasp why people think taking guns away from everyone will keep them out of the hands of criminals. All the sudden criminals will start following gun control laws? Chicago is a perfect example.



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TrailGirl
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2020-09-08 9:08 AM
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@TrackinBubba So while I do very much appreciate your taking the time to give us your reasons you are voting for Biden...I do have to comment on your position on gun control as an example.

Your stating that "The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time"  is not accurate.  I know that you know this because you reference being able to go shoot them for fun at a range.  They are not the usual/most comon weapon of choice in murders/multiple murders involving guns anyway...and they are an important tool used for hunting feral hogs that sure need to be killed in large numbers in a short period of time (among other uses).  And...even you say they are fun to shoot at a range.

 

Why should law abiding folks have their rights limited because you (or a group of you) figure that there isn't a valid need/purpose for that particular gun? or any gun?

Well...what if a group of folks (a majority) decided that there is no real purpose for owing a horse other than to do farm work for the amish...and that owning one for any other purpose is wasteful of grain/land/resources that could go to feed starving folks her or in poorer countries?  That you could maybe get to go ride one at a fair occasionally for fun.  May sound like an absurd comparison...but is it?

This is where freedom comes in...and why voting for the leader that will support that right to freedom is essential for us all.  Biden and the democrat party has made many statements that they will be going after various freedoms we now enjoy.  Maybe they haven't hit upon one that strikes close to home for you...yet...

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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2020-09-08 9:29 AM
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Husband and I are independents. I lean conservative, he leans liberal. Both have voted democrat/republican. The complete unfair, nonstop attack President Trump has endured since 2016 has us heavy on the Trump Train. Anyone reading this thinking he has had fair reporting since taking office is absolutely insane. We are old and have been through a lot of elections. Never seen anything like this.



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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-09-08 9:44 AM
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TrackinBubba - 2020-09-07 8:07 PM


Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 


First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.


I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 


I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 


The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 


We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).


That's all for now. 


Thank you for telling your reason without trashing our President. Do you not have health care at all? Me and hubby dont have health insurance its just cheaper to pay out of pocket, and since Trump passed making the meds cheaper and affordable it helped out many many people. 

I dont agree on the gun control either, this is Free America and we should have what ever our hearts desire and not tolded what we can and can not have. the Dems want to take all out protection away and defund the police and that just dont fly, we need out protection and we need our police or any peace office ready to defend you and me and my family your family if ever the situation comes up..This defunding the Peace Officers is the craziest thing I have ever heard. 

Theres more but I just wanted to say Thanks, you are the first one that ever answer why you want Biden. But really do you think Biden is really the one you want to run our country if he wins? Do you really think hes got the sound mind to protect us? 

 

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TrackinBubba - 2020-09-07 6:07 PM


Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 


First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.


I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 


I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 


The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 


We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).


That's all for now. 


the 1% aren't just these excess millionaires and billionaires. The 1% starts at $515,000 and goes up. Those people already lose almost half in taxes and live in expensive, high cost areas and pay 40% of all federal taxes supporting citizens. $170,000-up, combined with the 1%, pay 70% of all federal taxes supporting people. The "98%" actually only pay about 20% of all federal taxes supporting citizens, and they are by far the largest demographic. I genuinely do not understand how people think a group that is hustling hard, creating jobs and already paying majority of federal taxes should pay more. If you have a problem with Amazon and Tesla, and billionaire companies not paying taxes and getting government subsidies, that's a lobbyist problem. 

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TrackinBubba
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2020-09-08 9:51 AM
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TrailGirl - 2020-09-08 10:08 AM


@TrackinBubba So while I do very much appreciate your taking the time to give us your reasons you are voting for Biden...I do have to comment on your position on gun control as an example.


Your stating that "The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time"  is not accurate.  I know that you know this because you reference being able to go shoot them for fun at a range.  They are not the usual/most comon weapon of choice in murders/multiple murders involving guns anyway...and they are an important tool used for hunting feral hogs that sure need to be killed in large numbers in a short period of time (among other uses).  And...even you say they are fun to shoot at a range.


 


Why should law abiding folks have their rights limited because you (or a group of you) figure that there isn't a valid need/purpose for that particular gun? or any gun?


Well...what if a group of folks (a majority) decided that there is no real purpose for owing a horse other than to do farm work for the amish...and that owning one for any other purpose is wasteful of grain/land/resources that could go to feed starving folks her or in poorer countries?  That you could maybe get to go ride one at a fair occasionally for fun.  May sound like an absurd comparison...but is it?


This is where freedom comes in...and why voting for the leader that will support that right to freedom is essential for us all.  Biden and the democrat party has made many statements that they will be going after various freedoms we now enjoy.  Maybe they haven't hit upon one that strikes close to home for you...yet...


It's impossible to limit gun murder. It's going to happen as long as we have any form of gun out in the public. If we destroyed every gun in the country, we'd just kill each other with knives like they do in the UK. Take away the knives, we'll beat each other to death with rocks. 

The AR-15 (and guns like it) is the gun of choice for mass shooters - I'm talking Sandy Hook, Pulse in Orlando, Parkland, Aurora, Las Vegas, El Paso. It's not the only way to kill lots of people at once but it's pretty dadgum efficient at it. Since 1999 and Columbine, just over a quarter of mass shootings used that type of gun and caused almost 40% of deaths and 69% of injuries. They're just too good at killing people. If limiting my freedom to shoot a lot of bullets really quickly saves the lives of school children and people at a dance club, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. 

For a lawful purpose (like the hog thing which I did not know), maybe we can borrow from the Australian model and require some form of permit/training/monitoring. 

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Posted 2020-09-08 9:54 AM
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Please don't take my guns, I'll need them for the revolution.

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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2020-09-08 10:07 AM
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TrackinBubba - 2020-09-08 2:45 AM


texpat - 2020-09-07 11:08 PM


The Democrat Party is a packaged deal that comes with a lot of Anti-American baggage. In reference to your statement regarding gun control, we don't have a 2nd Amendment problem, we have a morality problem, courtesy of another crooked Democrat known as LBJ.



I agree we have a morality problem though I'd say the cause is bigger than that. We seem to have lost our empathy for other people. I'd rather those immoral people not have access to gnarly weapons. It's risk limitation. 


How does Biden plan to keep guns from criminals?  What is his plan to keep us safe?  Not a wish list, but a plan. 

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NFM
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-09-08 10:18 AM
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TrackinBubba - 2020-09-08 9:51 AM


TrailGirl - 2020-09-08 10:08 AM


@TrackinBubba So while I do very much appreciate your taking the time to give us your reasons you are voting for Biden...I do have to comment on your position on gun control as an example.


Your stating that "The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time"  is not accurate.  I know that you know this because you reference being able to go shoot them for fun at a range.  They are not the usual/most comon weapon of choice in murders/multiple murders involving guns anyway...and they are an important tool used for hunting feral hogs that sure need to be killed in large numbers in a short period of time (among other uses).  And...even you say they are fun to shoot at a range.


 


Why should law abiding folks have their rights limited because you (or a group of you) figure that there isn't a valid need/purpose for that particular gun? or any gun?


Well...what if a group of folks (a majority) decided that there is no real purpose for owing a horse other than to do farm work for the amish...and that owning one for any other purpose is wasteful of grain/land/resources that could go to feed starving folks her or in poorer countries?  That you could maybe get to go ride one at a fair occasionally for fun.  May sound like an absurd comparison...but is it?


This is where freedom comes in...and why voting for the leader that will support that right to freedom is essential for us all.  Biden and the democrat party has made many statements that they will be going after various freedoms we now enjoy.  Maybe they haven't hit upon one that strikes close to home for you...yet...



It's impossible to limit gun murder. It's going to happen as long as we have any form of gun out in the public. If we destroyed every gun in the country, we'd just kill each other with knives like they do in the UK. Take away the knives, we'll beat each other to death with rocks. 


The AR-15 (and guns like it) is the gun of choice for mass shooters - I'm talking Sandy Hook, Pulse in Orlando, Parkland, Aurora, Las Vegas, El Paso. It's not the only way to kill lots of people at once but it's pretty dadgum efficient at it. Since 1999 and Columbine, just over a quarter of mass shootings used that type of gun and caused almost 40% of deaths and 69% of injuries. They're just too good at killing people. If limiting my freedom to shoot a lot of bullets really quickly saves the lives of school children and people at a dance club, it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make. 


For a lawful purpose (like the hog thing which I did not know), maybe we can borrow from the Australian model and require some form of permit/training/monitoring. 


I appreciate your reasoning, but committing murder is a crime already. These people who do mass shooting are not law abiding citizens. If these "crazies" are set on killing mass amounts of people, won't they find an ar on the black market? How would banning them keep them out of the hands of criminals? Doesn't it keep them out of the hands of law abiding citizens who want to enjoy them or tire of having their entire fields ruined by hogs?

I like your point of knowing murderers will murder despite having a gun.

 

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TrackinBubba
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2020-09-08 10:19 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-08 10:44 AM


TrackinBubba - 2020-09-07 8:07 PM


Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 


First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.


I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 


I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 


The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 


We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).


That's all for now. 



Thank you for telling your reason without trashing our President. Do you not have health care at all? Me and hubby dont have health insurance its just cheaper to pay out of pocket, and since Trump passed making the meds cheaper and affordable it helped out many many people. 


I dont agree on the gun control either, this is Free America and we should have what ever our hearts desire and not tolded what we can and can not have. the Dems want to take all out protection away and defund the police and that just dont fly, we need out protection and we need our police or any peace office ready to defend you and me and my family your family if ever the situation comes up..This defunding the Peace Officers is the craziest thing I have ever heard. 


Theres more but I just wanted to say Thanks, you are the first one that ever answer why you want Biden. But really do you think Biden is really the one you want to run our country if he wins? Do you really think hes got the sound mind to protect us? 


 


I don't have any concerns really about his mental state - other than I think you have be nuts to begin with to even want to be President. It's the worst job in the world. I hope that, like any President, he surrounds himself with people who are smarter than he is and listens to those people. I tell my staff at work that if I'm the smartest person in the room, I'm in the wrong room. 

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TrackinBubba
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*almost there* - 2020-09-08 10:50 AM


TrackinBubba - 2020-09-07 6:07 PM


Ok. I'll tell you why. And I'll live to regret this. 


First of all, I'm not necessarily a Biden fan. I didn't vote for him in the primaries but he won more votes than mine and that's how the system works. I actually registered as a Democrat this time around so I could vote for someone other than him. I didn't like it - having been historically a little more conservative than the modern Democratic party but, as the Republican party has moved right, us folks in the middle have no more home.


I want some type of health care reform. I'd even be tempted by a NHS UK/Canadian system... Maybe. Not sure yet. It depends on how the math works out. Ive had to deal with our health care system a lot in the last few years and it's an overly complicated absolute nightmare with subpar care. I'm not well versed enough to write health care policy but it needs radical revision. 


I think high earners need to pay more in taxes. We ***** about the state of our infrastructure but fixing it takes money. Bezos can spare a few million and not miss it. 


The federal government, whether you like it as a concept or not, needs consistent leadership. I know of multiple contractors who have refused federal work because they aren't sure if a late night tweet will end their business. 


We need sensible gun control. Emphasis on the word sensible. Maybe something related to velocity or rounds per minute. Idk. The only use for an AR is to kill many people in a short amount of time. Keep that for the military. Buyback programs and limit them to gun ranges so you can still go shoot one (cause it is wicked fun).


That's all for now. 



the 1% aren't just these excess millionaires and billionaires. The 1% starts at $515,000 and goes up. Those people already lose almost half in taxes and live in expensive, high cost areas and pay 40% of all federal taxes supporting citizens. $170,000-up, combined with the 1%, pay 70% of all federal taxes supporting people. The "98%" actually only pay about 20% of all federal taxes supporting citizens, and they are by far the largest demographic. I genuinely do not understand how people think a group that is hustling hard, creating jobs and already paying majority of federal taxes should pay more. If you have a problem with Amazon and Tesla, and billionaire companies not paying taxes and getting government subsidies, that's a lobbyist problem. 


Ding ding ding!! Winner winner! 

I don't want to increase taxes on your average business owner. My husband works at what used to be a small business and has grown into a bigger one in the last ten years. I see what his boss pays in taxes. It's the superwealthy at the top. They'll hire fancy lawyers and find new loopholes but at least we try.

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Delta Cowgirl - 2020-09-08 11:07 AM


TrackinBubba - 2020-09-08 2:45 AM


texpat - 2020-09-07 11:08 PM


The Democrat Party is a packaged deal that comes with a lot of Anti-American baggage. In reference to your statement regarding gun control, we don't have a 2nd Amendment problem, we have a morality problem, courtesy of another crooked Democrat known as LBJ.



I agree we have a morality problem though I'd say the cause is bigger than that. We seem to have lost our empathy for other people. I'd rather those immoral people not have access to gnarly weapons. It's risk limitation. 



How does Biden plan to keep guns from criminals?  What is his plan to keep us safe?  Not a wish list, but a plan. 


https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/

Basically, reinstating the assualt rifle/high capacity magazine ban, increased background checks, closing loopholes. 

I'm not sure how much of that is politically viable but I'd rather try than not. 

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