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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Here's the deal. Ask yourselves what Obama would have done under these circumstances. Do you think Obama and Harry Reid would have done exactly what Trump and McConnell are saying they are going to do? You bet your ass they would. Is it illegal to appoint and confirm a new justice during an election year? No. Be honest here.
Back in 2016, Obama nominated Merrit Garland. The Republicans held the majority. The majority leader exercised his legal authority and didn't allow it to be considered. Now they still hold the majority but the President is obviously also Republican. To quote Barack Obama, "winning has consequences". You can argue whether it's fair, but those are the rules. Besides, it's far from a done deal. They might not even have the votes. Since 2016, Democrats have been threatening to "pack the courts" with liberal judges. The SCOTUS has had 9 justices for over 150 years. If you want to talk about "not breaking traditions", then you shouldn't threaten to break that one. That threat to retaliate by packing the courts since 2016 was how the Democrats threw down the gauntlet. They themselves threatened to "pack the courts"...a political declaration of war. Mark my word, that's exactly what they'll do, no matter what. Given that, I don't blame Trump and the Republicans. FDR wanted to pack the courts as well. Same with Teddy Roosevelt. Both attempts were struck down. Over the span of 12 years, FDR ended up appointing 8 justices. In effect, he did it the old fashioned way.
Oh, and guess what Justice Ginsburg said when lame duck president Obama wanted to replace conservative justice Scalia with the much more liberal Garland. RBG publicly called on the senate to go through with the nomination. She said, "There's nothing in the constitution that says the President stops being the President in his last year." Funny how that works.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | texpat - 2020-09-20 5:30 PM
@ NJJ: I'm surprised you didn't include Malcolm X.
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Location: Ky | Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-19 2:32 PM euchee - 2020-09-18 8:42 PM How do you think the passing of RBG is going to change up the supreme court? Will Trump get a new member in before the election? I'm thinking this could be big Who ever he chooses I hope and pray for them to have thick skin like Trump does, because we all know that they will go threw hell just because he choose that person.  Impeached president trump is the most thin skinned person to ever hold office. He acts like a child when critized. But he is Putin's man so the commies will back him no matter what. This supreme court position is nothing new. RBG was 87 and had terminal cancer. Everyone with a brain, that probably excludes impeached president turmp, knew this day was coming. Also, anyone with a brain, which still excludes impeached president trump, knows this sopt won't be filled until after the election.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | NFM - 2020-09-20 7:44 PM
Can you explain how Trump is Putin's man?
I'm of a different opinion due to the dossier has been proven false and an attorney has been indicted to falsifying court documents. Even Sally Yates said Comey went rogue.
Truly curious of your reasoning.
He won't tell you because he doesn't know anyting except "Orange man Bad"
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-19 2:32 PM
euchee - 2020-09-18 8:42 PM
How do you think the passing of RBG is going to change up the supreme court? Will Trump get a new member in before the election? I'm thinking this could be big
Who ever he chooses I hope and pray for them to have thick skin like Trump does, because we all know that they will go threw hell just because he choose that person.
Impeached president trump is the most thin skinned person to ever hold office. He acts like a child when critized. But he is Putin's man so the commies will back him no matter what.
This supreme court position is nothing new. RBG was 87 and had terminal cancer. Everyone with a brain, that probably excludes impeached president turmp, knew this day was coming.
Also, anyone with a brain, which still excludes impeached president trump, knows this sopt won't be filled until after the election.
Since all the commies are on the Dem side ( By thier own words) that means they are going to vote for the new justice correct nimrod. Your lack of logic is amazing. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | jd&ez - 2020-09-20 6:29 PM Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-19 2:32 PM euchee - 2020-09-18 8:42 PM How do you think the passing of RBG is going to change up the supreme court? Will Trump get a new member in before the election? I'm thinking this could be big Who ever he chooses I hope and pray for them to have thick skin like Trump does, because we all know that they will go threw hell just because he choose that person. Impeached president trump is the most thin skinned person to ever hold office. He acts like a child when critized. But he is Putin's man so the commies will back him no matter what. This supreme court position is nothing new. RBG was 87 and had terminal cancer. Everyone with a brain, that probably excludes impeached president turmp, knew this day was coming. Also, anyone with a brain, which still excludes impeached president trump, knows this sopt won't be filled until after the election. Jd&ez you are such a joke, you always repete everything you say with so much hate, maybe loosen up your fanny pack, that might help with your anger and hate.
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Location: Kansas | euchee - 2020-09-20 1:38 PM
Nancy is something else! I'm not that political but haven't they already impeached Trump, yet he is still in office do things for the greater good of us?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NFM - 2020-09-20 6:44 PM
Can you explain how Trump is Putin's man?
I'm of a different opinion due to the dossier has been proven false and an attorney has been indicted to falsifying court documents. Even Sally Yates said Comey went rogue.
Truly curious of your reasoning.
He cant tell because he dont even know why he keeps saying Trump is Putins man, heck he cant even tell us why he supports Biden and why Biden is so wonderful and what Biden has done in all the years being a politician.. All he can do is keep repeating his self. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
Old news. He said it a couple weeks ago. :) |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | babbsywabbsy - 2020-09-21 1:02 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
Old news. He said it a couple weeks ago. :)
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 1:05 PM
babbsywabbsy - 2020-09-21 1:02 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
Old news. He said it a couple weeks ago. :)
Awww ok, thanks
No, according to Google it was yesterday in Pennsylvania. But remember when he said 150 million Americans had died from gunshot wounds. That was one of his anti-guns rants. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
I can see someone making a mistake like this occasionally, but this guy does it regularly. In fact, he does it so often that people are actually getting used to it. That tells me everyone knows he's shot. |
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| Frodo - 2020-09-21 1:08 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 1:05 PM
babbsywabbsy - 2020-09-21 1:02 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
Old news. He said it a couple weeks ago. :)
Awww ok, thanks
No, according to Google it was yesterday in Pennsylvania.
But remember when he said 150 million Americans had died from gunshot wounds. That was one of his anti-guns rants.
My mistake, in June he said 120 million were dead from COVID. Either way, not the first time and yes I remember the gunshot wound comment as well. https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/25/joe-biden-120-million-coronavirus-deaths/?utm_source=knewz |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Bear - 2020-09-21 1:11 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
I can see someone making a mistake like this occasionally, but this guy does it regularly. In fact, he does it so often that people are actually getting used to it. That tells me everyone knows he's shot.
Goes right along with Joe saying "Harris-Biden administration", then Kamala saying "the Harris administration along with Joe Biden", once would be a mistake but twice makes me wonder what is being said behind closed doors. |
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| NJJ - 2020-09-20 3:47 PM
Just saying ......
2020 .... Let's nominate and confirm a new Supreme Court Judge ASAP ......
Republicans = Hypocrites
2016: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016: Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016: Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016: Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Dirt Dobber - 2020-09-21 6:26 PM
NJJ - 2020-09-20 3:47 PM
Just saying ......
2020 .... Let's nominate and confirm a new Supreme Court Judge ASAP ......
Republicans = Hypocrites
2016: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”
2018: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.”
2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.”
2016: Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.”
2016: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.”
2016: Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.”
2016: Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.”
2016: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.”
2016: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”
2016: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”
2016: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
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-- Mitch McConnell, March 2016
Get out of town. Hypocrisy in politics... I didn't see Feinstein or Schumer on your list of hypocrites.
LOL .... another "what about" .....but.....but....but what about the Dems ..... Good job when you can't admit that those ABOVE ARE hypocrites !!!!!!!!!!! |
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| NJJ - 2020-09-21 7:18 PM Dirt Dobber - 2020-09-21 6:26 PM NJJ - 2020-09-20 3:47 PM Just saying ...... 2020 .... Let's nominate and confirm a new Supreme Court Judge ASAP ...... Republicans = Hypocrites 2016: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas): “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.” 2018: Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.): “If an opening comes in the last year of President Trump’s term, and the primary process has started, we’ll wait to the next election.” 2016: Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.): “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term - I would say that if it was a Republican president.” 2016: Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.): “The very balance of our nation’s highest court is in serious jeopardy. As a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, I will do everything in my power to encourage the president and Senate leadership not to start this process until we hear from the American people.” 2016: Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa): “A lifetime appointment that could dramatically impact individual freedoms and change the direction of the court for at least a generation is too important to get bogged down in politics. The American people shouldn’t be denied a voice.” 2016: Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.): “The campaign is already under way. It is essential to the institution of the Senate and to the very health of our republic to not launch our nation into a partisan, divisive confirmation battle during the very same time the American people are casting their ballots to elect our next president.” 2016: Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.): “In this election year, the American people will have an opportunity to have their say in the future direction of our country. For this reason, I believe the vacancy left open by Justice Antonin Scalia should not be filled until there is a new president.” 2016: Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.): “The Senate should not confirm a new Supreme Court justice until we have a new president.” 2016: Sen. Cory Gardner (R-Col.): “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.” 2016: Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio): “I believe the best thing for the country is to trust the American people to weigh in on who should make a lifetime appointment that could reshape the Supreme Court for generations. This wouldn’t be unusual. It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.” 2016: Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.): “I strongly agree that the American people should decide the future direction of the Supreme Court by their votes for president and the majority party in the U.S. Senate.”
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** “The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice. Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”
-- Mitch McConnell, March 2016 Get out of town. Hypocrisy in politics... I didn't see Feinstein or Schumer on your list of hypocrites. LOL .... another "what about" .....but.....but....but what about the Dems ..... Good job when you can't admit that those ABOVE ARE hypocrites !!!!!!!!!!! Bless it. Of course they are hypocrites. I do not have a problem admitting it. The point of my response to you was you felt the need to point out the hypocrisy, as if it was a gotcha for just one politcal side. Your post read like a cut and paste from Mother Jones. Let's see if I can do this right. but...but...but...what about Cotton, Ernst.
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| Barnmom - 2020-09-21 2:52 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-09-21 12:37 PM
I have lost count been to many to keep up with, lol, BUttttt is this new with ole Joe saying about 200 million people have died from Covid-19 or is this old news?!!
I can see someone making a mistake like this occasionally, but this guy does it regularly. In fact, he does it so often that people are actually getting used to it. That tells me everyone knows he's shot.
Goes right along with Joe saying "Harris-Biden administration", then Kamala saying "the Harris administration along with Joe Biden", once would be a mistake but twice makes me wonder what is being said behind closed doors.
I'm not sure if we would be mortified at what was said behind doors or ****ed! I think it would be safe to bet the farm that there is something up their sleeves and that Ol Joe isn't planning on the title for very long if he were to win. |
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