I hate that the health care workers have to live with such guilt as well.I have several family in health care as well.Im seeing first hand the guilt and pain they are feeling.Im also seeing the long hours of work and the toll its taking on them mentally,physically and emotionally.I have seen the rise of suicides as well,and its horrible.

 THANK YOU HEALTH CARE HEROS,YES,YOU ARE HEROS,UNDERPAID,OVERWORKED HEROS.

My husband just lost his cousin, a retired teacher, with Covid.  He lived in Texas which has been hit pretty hard.  Something off the charts sinister about this disease spreading like it is.  Why would it settle to a certain extent all summer and then spread like wildfire.  A little help from China?

I am very sorry for you loss.   I think it is wrong to politize Covid.  It has affected the entire world.

Again - very sorry for your loss. 

I shouldnt have group all.  You are right I understand the craziness of the hospitals.  and I have friends that are nurses and surgerical and pharmacists. 

but from personal experience : a friend husband had a stroke and nothing to do with covid and it was during the covid shutdown.  They would not let her and she only requested her to be with him! and they where making decisions without her! tho she was calling every day and trying to at least check on him! It is easy to dismiss the outside when you are on the inside and you see everything, but when you are on the outside and cannot even see at least something your mind goes crazy and no one will take care of you or your love one like you do your own.  When he was in ICU there was one nurse that did facetime her everyday and that helped even tho it was a few seconds!  When they moved him to a different floor they told her, but the next nurse wouldnt facetime but would say she give him the message that she checked on him...this went on for bout a week. She called everyday!  When she called on the 5-7 day they said who??? Oh we dont have him on this floor.  Come to find out they moved him to a different floor bout 2-3 days before!!! the nurse was just saying ok I'll tell him and who did she tell????  for 2-3 days they didnt tell wife that he been moved!!!  Every time they tried to take the ventilator out he would get very agitated... she kept telling them if you would just let him hear my voice while you take it out (they did surgery and they didnt want him agitated and his blood pressure go up) he would stay calm.  They finally listened after the 5-6 times! and he stayed calmed. He could have been off that ventialater 2 weeks sooner! Once she was able to get him out she took on his rehab herself bc they didnt want to not have a say in their well being.  His recovery is taking longer...I really believed if she had been allowed to be with him he would have recovered so much better.  I dont think you should allow visitors but you should allow that one person and only one person to call and to visit. and we wasnt hit hard like other places and the hospital wasnt full and this was not a covid case!

Another friend of mine her baby that was a 1 year old was life flighted and she was not allow to be with her during the flight or hospital.  Wasn't a covid case! 

These 2 instances made me really realize how fast we can not have a say with child or love one and how our freedom can be taken sooo easy!!!!   Really hit home why soldiers do what they do!!! and I am soo grateful for the soldiers!!!!!

There is good and bad nurses I get that.  I was just saying with our technology there is no reason for at least facetime or something!  I dont expect nurses to do it but hospitals have volunteers they could do it.  Something!

And I know that if a nurse or doctor would want the same for their love one.  We should do as we would want done for others in this situation. 

Again I am sorry I grouped all wasnt my intention!

I am in no way belittling or making light of the workload, but it is different when it is your loved one and you are on the outside and your hands are tied that you cant even see them.  I dont wish that for anyone!  and I tried to put myself in her shoes, I dont know what I would have done if my husband!!!!

Covid is not an excuse to be stupid or heartless and I see some using that excuse and also using it to get out of work!

By the way I know there is more patients than workers! and I could not do what you do! Thats why I'm not a nurse!  Tho my grandma was and tried to get me to do it! 

Thank you to all HEALTHCARE! We cannot make it without nurses and doctors!!!! The good ones anyways!!!!

Again I'm sorry I grouped all!!! Not what I meant.  Not all hospitals are full!!!

I was just saying with technology the way it is should be something that can be done so no one dies alone.  If a love one was there it would make all the world difference (for the patient and nurses).and you say that you are allowed to volunteer to be there after your hours you or nurses wouldnt have to bc loved one is there with them.  I'm sooo sorry for the extra burden!!!! Thats why the rules need to change  

As far as the public not understanding I do believe most do understand...but when it is your loved one that you cant see what are you supposed to do??? there is the other side of the coin!!!   

There not an answer for all but I do know letting one person in for that person in hospital makes a world of difference no matter if they have covid or not!!! and since they say masks work let that family member wear masks and the whole works! 

I know my friend would have worn anything and would have stayed at hospital 24/7 just to be with him!  She would have been ok not to leave the hospital to come and go. 

I am not scared of Covid . I AM scared of the isolation. They tell us ALL the time that someone should be at the hospital to advocate for you because the staff are so busy and now with Covid their even more busy. I saw where 250,000 people a year pass away because of medical mistakes in hospitals. That's scary. I have always had some one with me and I have stayed with my loved ones in the hospital. It hasn't happened often and we have always had great nurses. But one time the dr. Almost made a VERY serious mistake with my husband's neck surgery. 

We allow visitors but there was a time when we almost had to put a stop to it because people abused it. We had people hiding in rooms,covid positive people coming in to the hospital to visit negative loved ones. We don't have time or resources to babysit visitors to make sure they are playing by the rules.I agree with having visitors. I think they can certainly help in most cases, but I'm not a babysitter. 

I don't think the nurses should babysit, but I lost my aunt because of Covid. She didn't have it but she had a stroke and was in hospice/rehab. Because she couldn't see my dad and could only talk to him on the phone only IF a nurse allowed my dad to talk to her and that was allowed not even weekly., she gave up and passed away. I got that he couldn't go IN the facility, but he couldn't even see her from outside looking in her window. She was 92 and was still working at the oil company she co-founded and was still mentoring young executives at the time of her stroke. My dad is 89. Dad was driving from Corpus to Ft Worth, an 8 hour drive and staying for a week at time. So he was there for 1/2 the month. As long as he was doing that she was improving. They shut that down and completely cut her off from family. Just as deadly as Covid is losing hope. She lost hope. So maybe having people at the front of the hospital checking temps and doing a quick once over would be good. I mean, we keep hearing how nurses and doctors are having hours cut. Have the ones not doing "elective" surgeries do this. At least they will still be working. And, yes, I am a little bitter about my aunt's death. 

I'm sorry for your loss. I lost a family member to the virus back in May. We still haven't been able to safely have a funeral.

I guess... wear a mask, be wary, try not to spread the virus. It's the least any of us can do right now. This isn't the first time we have had a pandemic of this extent, and luckily now we have more knowledge regarding prevention and suggested guidelines. But we all need to do our part to minimize the damage.