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KindaClassey
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2021-01-25 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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Nateracer - 2021-01-25 10:23 AM


Honestly, I did NOT vote for Biden.  


However, I didn't think that the first week would be this bad.   Cutting the pipeline and re-joining the Paris deal are bad news. 


My heart breaks for all of the girls in sports who are dang good athletes, but simply won't be able to outdo a male who grows his hair out and says he's gal.   Not to mention when grown men "gay" or not are in locker rooms with them. 


Not to mention spending millions to send to another country to help them build a border wall and then wanting to rip ours down.  


 


I just saw a congolomeration post on FB about Twitter exploding with unhappy Biden voter posts.  Mostly regret with my same sentiments.  Didn't think it would be this bad, can't believe he turned on us (union voter), he said this, but did that, types of comments. 


Honestly- I feel the same way. I expected the backlash against Trump policies. I figured it would be ugly. I wasn't remotly surprised.  But it's very disheartening that this individual who ran on "bringing the country back together agin" did so many things to seperate even more right off the bat. Maybe my perspective of right/wrong is scewed. Maybe I'm too ignorant to know what it is going to take to get this country back together again. Lord knows the problems are multi-layered and nuanced. There probably is no single answer for what is the right way. But it doesn't seem like a positive start.

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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2021-01-25 11:50 AM
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KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 11:02 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 10:53 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 9:33 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 8:25 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 7:29 AM


jd&ez - 2021-01-25 6:46 AM


I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.


I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 

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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2021-01-25 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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I'm really surprised only one Biden support has come forward so far? There were a lot of people quite passionate about him a couple months ago, would love their input.

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KindaClassey
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2021-01-25 12:06 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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jbhoot - 2021-01-25 11:50 AM


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jbhoot - 2021-01-25 10:53 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 9:33 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 8:25 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 7:29 AM


jd&ez - 2021-01-25 6:46 AM


I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.



I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 


My question will either be answered or it wont. If it's answered, it's up to him what is said. I assume nothing.  Things stay less muddy that way. Little pokes and jabs really add nothing to the conversation.

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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2021-01-25 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .



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KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 12:06 PM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 11:50 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 11:02 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 10:53 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 9:33 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 8:25 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 7:29 AM


jd&ez - 2021-01-25 6:46 AM


I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.



I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 



My question will either be answered or it wont. If it's answered, it's up to him what is said. I assume nothing.  Things stay less muddy that way. Little pokes and jabs really add nothing to the conversation.


Ditto

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-01-25 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .



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"Illegal immigrants should be counted in the Census. The Census is used to apportion money - more people equals more need for funding. It doesn't matter where the people came from or what their status is. They are still using the roads."

I strongly disagree with this premise and this statement.  The goal of the census is to count citizens.  Illegal immigrants are here illegally.  They are not citizens.  It is not entirely flawed logic to include illegal residents as part of a basis for apportioning funds to states, as much as we may not like it.  The census is used to decide on apportioning funding for Medicaid, for instance, and those funds are actually sometimes used to provide healthcare for illegals.  There's no real good way around that.  I do have a problem with using illegal aliens in the census when the census is used to determine reapportionment of congressional representation.  That, to me, is inherently flawed.  There should be a way to exclude them from census numbers such that the population of illegals doesn't in any way effect the apportionment of representatives in Congress.  That's why I agree with asking respondents whether or not they are US citizens when taking a census. I'm opposed to things that incentivizes welcoming of illegal immigrants.....and by including illegals in making determinations of congressional districts, you just add to the incentive to willfully cheat and break our laws.

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Frodo
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2021-01-25 12:39 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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I just read a news story about a young welder who was immediately laid off after Biden cancelled the Keystone project.  He said he sat in his truck and wept, then had to lay off his whole team.  Good job gone.  Is there another one out there for him?  Questionable.

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KindaClassey
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2021-01-25 12:57 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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jbhoot - 2021-01-25 12:14 PM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 12:06 PM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 11:50 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 11:02 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 10:53 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 9:33 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 8:25 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 7:29 AM


jd&ez - 2021-01-25 6:46 AM


I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.



I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 



My question will either be answered or it wont. If it's answered, it's up to him what is said. I assume nothing.  Things stay less muddy that way. Little pokes and jabs really add nothing to the conversation.



Ditto


Is the peanut gallery feeling some pokes and jabs? I intended it that way. And since I've read many of your posts over the years, I know you are 100% intelligent enough to know that. I gave mutiple opportunities for you to back out of the conversation I was attempting to have with someone else by showing I wasn't interested in how they had responded before and why I thought it could possibly be different this time.. Yet you continued to force your dialoge and opinions that added nothing to said conversation.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-01-25 1:04 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .



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jbhoot - 2021-01-25 11:50 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 11:02 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 10:53 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 9:33 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 8:25 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 7:29 AM


jd&ez - 2021-01-25 6:46 AM


I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.



I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 


The only way jd&ez can NOT answer a question is by trashing, calling us all commies and other names,trashing Trump calling his wife a P*** star, saying how Trump graps a womens part (of her body) jd&ez starts a thread about Trump Trashing him and his supporters, hes never ever has answered a question, he jd&ez is always talking filth about Trump and his family and us. He loves bashing all the Trump supporters on here..

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Dinero10
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2021-01-25 1:10 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .



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They told you exactly what they were going to do.... none of this is a surprise...

Many were not listening... many were to busy hating on Trump -

elections have consequences.... 

Surprise - not surprised!

 

 

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KindaClassey
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2021-01-25 1:13 PM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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Frodo - 2021-01-25 12:39 PM


I just read a news story about a young welder who was immediately laid off after Biden cancelled the Keystone project.  He said he sat in his truck and wept, then had to lay off his whole team.  Good job gone.  Is there another one out there for him?  Questionable.


I think there will still be good jobs out there for the welders. There is a lack of good ones out there, so there will always be jobs. If you are a good enough welder to be on the pipeline, you have skills. It is a shame that those people have to pivot and figure out a new job- and the hardships they wil go through unitl it falls into place - they shouldn't have to do it- but they are the backbone of America working type people that ARE going to work and have skills employers are looking for.  One of my own family members was laid off from the pipeline. Just had a new baby. It really sucks. And I also know, he already has an interview for another job.

I think it's wrong and iodiotic that it happened, as I stated in an earlier post. I am absolutly not defending the pipeline shutting down or minimizing what the workers are going through.

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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2021-01-25 1:42 PM
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Really sad day when a DEMOCRATIC US Representative is upset about the house passing a bill that sends $3 TRILLION overseas. BUT I do have a solution to help out the girl athletes. You better be tough to run with the girls. 

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Reg. Jun 2014
Posted 2021-01-25 1:42 PM
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Frodo - 2021-01-25 11:39 AM

I just read a news story about a young welder who was immediately laid off after Biden cancelled the Keystone project.  He said he sat in his truck and wept, then had to lay off his whole team.  Good job gone.  Is there another one out there for him?  Questionable.

Oh but according to Buttigieg, after Cruz grilled him about it, said- " They can get a job just a different one." ??

How profound.



Edited by MadCow 2021-01-25 1:46 PM
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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2021-01-25 1:47 PM
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Frodo - 2021-01-25 9:04 AM



cindyt - 2021-01-25 8:06 AM


https://www.billoreilly.com/video/video-of-the-day?vid=-537543557486107758


 


Shows he says there is nothing he can do to change the direction of the pandemic.


And If I remember correctly he was allllll over Trump about it, and his "mis handling" of it...   now says this. 



His words are so comforting.  Yesterday he remarked about masks being more important than vaccines.    The guy is totally obsessed with masking.


 


Yet he was photographed on federal property with no mask. He said he was celebrating. 

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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2021-01-25 4:46 PM
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cindyt - 2021-01-25 8:06 AM


https://www.billoreilly.com/video/video-of-the-day?vid=-537543557486107758


 


Shows he says there is nothing he can do to change the direction of the pandemic.


And If I remember correctly he was allllll over Trump about it, and his "mis handling" of it...   now says this. 



His words are so comforting.  Yesterday he remarked about masks being more important than vaccines.    The guy is totally obsessed with masking.


 



Yet he was photographed on federal property with no mask. He said he was celebrating. 


When I go in a store I am going to tell them I am celebrating something so I don't have to wear a mask. 

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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-01-25 6:48 PM
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Frodo - 2021-01-25 1:39 PM


I just read a news story about a young welder who was immediately laid off after Biden cancelled the Keystone project.  He said he sat in his truck and wept, then had to lay off his whole team.  Good job gone.  Is there another one out there for him?  Questionable.


i am a gentt for over the trucking

 

had a driver del a switch in neb friday. company said well we will take its paid for but it was made for the pipeline. they were told last week to get off pipeline.  so now what does the company do

 

the ex ceo of shell said biden needed to recisend and put it back it negatively going to affect america

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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2021-01-25 7:21 PM
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KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 12:57 PM


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KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 11:02 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 10:53 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 9:33 AM


jbhoot - 2021-01-25 8:25 AM


KindaClassey - 2021-01-25 7:29 AM


jd&ez - 2021-01-25 6:46 AM


I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.



I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 



My question will either be answered or it wont. If it's answered, it's up to him what is said. I assume nothing.  Things stay less muddy that way. Little pokes and jabs really add nothing to the conversation.



Ditto



Is the peanut gallery feeling some pokes and jabs? I intended it that way. And since I've read many of your posts over the years, I know you are 100% intelligent enough to know that. I gave mutiple opportunities for you to back out of the conversation I was attempting to have with someone else by showing I wasn't interested in how they had responded before and why I thought it could possibly be different this time.. Yet you continued to force your dialoge and opinions that added nothing to said conversation.


Boy are you ever miss reading me. Ditto was to agree with your last statment. If you think I would back out of any conversation you are mistaken. Keep i n mind you choose to answer my remark and became his defender hence the vally of remarks have proceded. The ball is in your court we can carry on with this tit for tat it's up to you. Or we agree to disagree and walk away. You claim to know him on a personal bases and claim his not how he is on this board he maybe that way in real life I can not judge on that. I can only judge him on his statments on this board. They have been far from civil and mostly hateful on anything political. He and I will never agree on anything political that is clear I don't have a problem with that. I do have a huge problem with his hateful bigited remarks. All he has to do is be civil. Until he does I and many will call him out on it.  And I would have far more respect for him if he defended himself and not you Sorry I did not get back to you right away had to work. passing the ball to you. Back to work for me.  PS I know he can be because he is on anything but polotics.

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I think Biden is doing the best he can do under the circumstances he inherited. He can't fix all the wrongs of the previous administration overnight. Especially in the middle of a terrible pandemic that the previous administration had ignored and left no plan in place. 


He really hasn't done anything yet. He has at least changed the tone from the white house to adult instead of the immature rantings coming the last 4 years. Biden is a moderate. He is going to govern from the middle. But first order of business is the pandemic.And it should be. 



I'm curious. This is not an attack on you. You know me and you know that's not what I intend.


I voted for Trump both times, knowing he had some rather obvious character flaws, and I definitly did not agree with some of his policies or the words that came out of his mouth. I did not appreciate or approve of how he approached/handled some things. I'm pretty sure you know I would have slapped a muzzle on him and broke his twitter finger if I could have. I knew that I didn't vote for a polished politician. But I felt that overall, he was trying to get back to taking care of America and the American people first. And he said a lot of things that I honestly felt, but was too diplomatic to say out loud.


I really do believe that we need to take care of the environment. We are doing a lot of damage to the planent we live on. But how in the world can it be good for the US with the unemployment rate and economic crisis, to shut down the pipeline work? The initial jobs lost? The trickle down effect in that area with other jobs associated with the pipeline (materials, resturants, lodging)? The potential to go back to being reliant on foriegn oil? The potential price swings affecting the entire US?  I honestly dont get how this was a decision with the American people's best intrest at heart.


Maybe you can explain the other side of this decision and help me understand.



Good luck with that he will never give you an answer based on logic never has never will.



Ya never know. Sometimes an individual is more likely to talk through something when not feeling directly attacked. I'm perfectly capabaly of having a conversation with someone whose point of view I don't agree with. Sometimes you change your mind- sometimes you end up seeing the other side - sometimes you walk away agreeing to disagree with no hard feelings. Since I wear big girl panties- it takes a bunch to get them in a wad. I have a feeling that JD&EZ is completly capable of having a conversation even if we disagree. Especially if the peanut galleries from both sides pipe down and let the conversation happen.



His history on this board says other wise feel free to look it up.



My history with knowing the individual for 40ish years and the interactions I have had with said individual trumps anything I've read on this forum- and I've read a LOT from both sides. Because I know the actual person and I've had actual conversations.  Too much "s**t" likes to get stirred on this forrum for me to take it seriously. I always try to remember that it is a real person sitting on the other side of the screen. Is it fun to spar? sure! Is it ever personal? Not with me.



I can only judge him by his posts which never show anything but talkings points emotion and zero logic when it comes anything politicol. 



My question will either be answered or it wont. If it's answered, it's up to him what is said. I assume nothing.  Things stay less muddy that way. Little pokes and jabs really add nothing to the conversation.



Ditto



Is the peanut gallery feeling some pokes and jabs? I intended it that way. And since I've read many of your posts over the years, I know you are 100% intelligent enough to know that. I gave mutiple opportunities for you to back out of the conversation I was attempting to have with someone else by showing I wasn't interested in how they had responded before and why I thought it could possibly be different this time.. Yet you continued to force your dialoge and opinions that added nothing to said conversation.



Boy are you ever miss reading me. Ditto was to agree with your last statment. If you think I would back out of any conversation you are mistaken. Keep i n mind you choose to answer my remark and became his defender hence the vally of remarks have proceded. The ball is in your court we can carry on with this tit for tat it's up to you. Or we agree to disagree and walk away. You claim to know him on a personal bases and claim his not how he is on this board he maybe that way in real life I can not judge on that. I can only judge him on his statments on this board. They have been far from civil and mostly hateful on anything political. He and I will never agree on anything political that is clear I don't have a problem with that. I do have a huge problem with his hateful bigited remarks. All he has to do is be civil. Until he does I and many will call him out on it.  And I would have far more respect for him if he defended himself and not you Sorry I did not get back to you right away had to work. passing the ball to you. Back to work for me.  PS I know he can be because he is on anything but polotics.


I will take the responsibility for misunderstanding the connotation behind your "ditto". That is on me. Apoligies.

I am not anyone's defender. I didn't take anyone's side- I asked a question. I mentioned that I personally knew the individual and thought he might respond differently to my question in an attempt to get you to back off and stop poking the bear.  I will step up and defend ANYONES right to have a CIVIL conversation with me- even if I don't agree with what they say because having those types of conversations are one way to open your mind and start thinking about all sides of a problem. Not just your side. Or maybe it will give you insight on how to destroy the enemy. Either one works.

Sometimes I think some (not all)  people on here (both Democrat and Republican) act like the most immature, non comprehensive and non origional thought producing babies. It's kinda scary to think that people might really carry on conversations like that in person. If so - no wonder the US is in the shape it is. Some of the vile things said on here would get someone's block knocked off in person, and it really pains and disheartens me to think that anyone might actually talk to or treat someone like that in person. Can I be a blunt, smartass at times? Absolutly. Sometimes I take the bait when I should just swim on by. But I generally try to stay respectful and not resort to the base, low hits. I guess some might think it's fun to say things in a "feed the monkey's and watch them poop" kinda way- but I personally don't. I think it's a vicious cycle. Sometimes one that brands you as something you may not really be.  Words do have meanings, connotations and consequences.

I can only control how I respond to someone. I will not attempt to speak for or explain why someone else said something. That's their perogotive. I have a hard enough time thinking for myself.

I have enjoyed the back and forth. And as always, it's not personal attack. Just a dialogue.

 

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Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2021-01-26 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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Kinda Classy.... I just want to say I believe you sure live up to your name.  Thank you for trying.  I have learned many things on this board over the years, and I hate that topics can't be discussed.  Since people are located all over the country I enjoy reading why they feel they way they do.

I hate to do it but I will attempt to explain why I voted for Biden, he would not have been my first choice and I'm very sad we don't have better choices, but who in their right mind would want the job.  I don't agree with everything he has done but I like it better than what we had for the reasons listed below.

I don't believe we are the laughing stock of the world anymore, with a leader as unpredictable as Kim Jung Un.  I didn't like the fact that he was best buds with Putin & Kim Jung Un instead of allies.

I'm glad he rejoined the WHO I think this is a world problem not just ours.  I believe if we had paid better attention we wouldn't be in this mess.

I'm happy he has put in people who know how government works instead of cronies.  The post office mess comes to mind.  All of my bills are late and I received a check yesterday postmarked 12/9/20.  He really put a good person in charge, who destroyed storting machines.  I guess we were out of storage. 

I couldn't vote for Trump because of him auctioning off drilling rights in Alaska, he said it was going to make all kinds of money and it was auctioned of for very little.  At least an Alaskan company bought it, if they want to destroy it go ahead I won't go there it's too cold.  However I believe if he was in there longer he would have destroyed other National Parks too.

The Keystone pipeline..... I really don't know.  Don't they already have one?  Isn't is used to export Canadian oil we don't want to refine in America?  If so just who does that help?  I see what we did to the Indians and how we treat them.  All you people griping about immigrants better think about how they are treated.  I would be pretty concerned about it going thru a water supply for so many, especially since so many regulatons have be relaxed.  I can pay a little more for gas if it means clean water for many.

I thought the way Alexander Vindman and other diplomats were treated over the perfect phone call was horrible.

I listened to all the Trump rallies and I read all news sites, I never get my news from here or facebook, even read newsmax.  I could never vote for him for the way he did his rallies.  He never mentions what his plan is just trashes people and makes up names.  He was addicted to the campaign trail and his followers and many to him.  I do believe he enjoyed them storming the capitol or he would have sent the national guard in sooner or at least taken the phone calls instead of watching on TV.

I truly enjoy that we have a press secretary who answers questions and does not consider the press the enemy.  I can't believe in the middle of an election and a pandemic, President Trump said his biggest problem was the press.  I guess if you don't want them to know the shady things you do it's a problem.  What about him calling the GA guy insisting he won and wanting 11,000 votes?  Sure sounded like a mob shake down to me.

If Hillary would have files 60 lawsuits...... would you all still say she won?

I could go or I could be like another poster and just delete it because the posse willl mount up and attack.  However you ask and I thought you had good intentions.  I sure hope they Keep it Classy.  Have a great day.

 

 

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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2021-01-26 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: BHW Biden Voters. . .


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Palopony - 2021-01-26 8:37 AM


Kinda Classy.... I just want to say I believe you sure live up to your name.  Thank you for trying.  I have learned many things on this board over the years, and I hate that topics can't be discussed.  Since people are located all over the country I enjoy reading why they feel they way they do.


I hate to do it but I will attempt to explain why I voted for Biden, he would not have been my first choice and I'm very sad we don't have better choices, but who in their right mind would want the job.  I don't agree with everything he has done but I like it better than what we had for the reasons listed below.


I don't believe we are the laughing stock of the world anymore, with a leader as unpredictable as Kim Jung Un.  I didn't like the fact that he was best buds with Putin & Kim Jung Un instead of allies.


I'm glad he rejoined the WHO I think this is a world problem not just ours.  I believe if we had paid better attention we wouldn't be in this mess.


I'm happy he has put in people who know how government works instead of cronies.  The post office mess comes to mind.  All of my bills are late and I received a check yesterday postmarked 12/9/20.  He really put a good person in charge, who destroyed storting machines.  I guess we were out of storage. 


I couldn't vote for Trump because of him auctioning off drilling rights in Alaska, he said it was going to make all kinds of money and it was auctioned of for very little.  At least an Alaskan company bought it, if they want to destroy it go ahead I won't go there it's too cold.  However I believe if he was in there longer he would have destroyed other National Parks too.


The Keystone pipeline..... I really don't know.  Don't they already have one?  Isn't is used to export Canadian oil we don't want to refine in America?  If so just who does that help?  I see what we did to the Indians and how we treat them.  All you people griping about immigrants better think about how they are treated.  I would be pretty concerned about it going thru a water supply for so many, especially since so many regulatons have be relaxed.  I can pay a little more for gas if it means clean water for many.


I thought the way Alexander Vindman and other diplomats were treated over the perfect phone call was horrible.


I listened to all the Trump rallies and I read all news sites, I never get my news from here or facebook, even read newsmax.  I could never vote for him for the way he did his rallies.  He never mentions what his plan is just trashes people and makes up names.  He was addicted to the campaign trail and his followers and many to him.  I do believe he enjoyed them storming the capitol or he would have sent the national guard in sooner or at least taken the phone calls instead of watching on TV.


I truly enjoy that we have a press secretary who answers questions and does not consider the press the enemy.  I can't believe in the middle of an election and a pandemic, President Trump said his biggest problem was the press.  I guess if you don't want them to know the shady things you do it's a problem.  What about him calling the GA guy insisting he won and wanting 11,000 votes?  Sure sounded like a mob shake down to me.


If Hillary would have files 60 lawsuits...... would you all still say she won?


I could go or I could be like another poster and just delete it because the posse willl mount up and attack.  However you ask and I thought you had good intentions.  I sure hope they Keep it Classy.  Have a great day.


 


 


Please reference my highlighted comment in your quote..................

Do you remember in 2008 when Diesel Fuel hit $4.60 per gallon? Would you be willing to pay these kinds of prices (again) for "clean water for many"? I believe these kinds of operating prices are capable of bankrupting many consumers. So again, would You be willing to bankrupt people to provide 'clean water for many'?

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