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vjls
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2021-02-10 10:20 PM
Subject: RE: impeCHMENT


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is it just me or  all the senate and represtatives abunch of ****ants and drama queens so , listening to aoc  made me what to show her

 

the real world  what ould they have don/t when dc was  be riote by blm    by the way i wonder why they say that was protesting and 1/6 was a riot

 

don.t get me wrong breaking window  and killing the cop i do not nderstand that beyond wrong

 

how was it unlawful entry  its a public building  

 

 

amazing how all of a sudden they are turning like rats  feeling betrayed.     first off   i get getting caught up but   u are still responabe for your action

 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-02-11 8:19 AM
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bigtex - 2021-02-10 9:57 PM


Having a difference of opinion is not trolldom. Neither is expressing that opinion. My redheaded mare and I often have differences of opinions and she often expresses hers, unfortunately. Doesn't make either of us trolls. 


You may have a horse, but I still think you are a troll.  The timing of your appearance on BHW and the content of your posts tells me you are a troll until proven otherwise.  That's OK.   It's just my guess.  

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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2021-02-11 8:25 AM
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This is someone who is considered  a Constitutional Authority. 

 

Dershowitz: Impeachment Dems are playing right in the hands of Trump [VIDEO]
https://therightscoop.com/dershowitz-impeachment-dems-are-playing-right-in-the-hands-of-trump-video/
Comments: I really would like to know why Nancy Pelosi is not charged for the Jan 6 riot, because, as I understand she had been informed days before this mob overtook the US Capitol Building that it was planned. the Capitol Police Captain, as I have read, even asked her for extra Police support that day. but, it was declined. ... see more

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-02-11 10:02 AM
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bigtex - 2021-02-10 5:05 PM


She's great! Had a lovely ride today, while the impeachment trial was on dinner break. Thanks for asking. 


I really dont get what you are saying,lol. So you took a lovely ride on your mare while the impeachment trial was on a break? You must really be into this impeachment thing, I could think of better things to be into watching. If I read this right, lol.. 

Are you from the Austin area? 

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bigtex
Reg. Dec 2020
Posted 2021-02-11 10:25 AM
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bigtex - 2021-02-10 5:05 PM


She's great! Had a lovely ride today, while the impeachment trial was on dinner break. Thanks for asking. 



I really dont get what you are saying,lol. So you took a lovely ride on your mare while the impeachment trial was on a break? You must really be into this impeachment thing, I could think of better things to be into watching. If I read this right, lol.. 


Are you from the Austin area? 


Yeah, I turned it on and found it fascinating. The previously un-aired security camera footage from inside and just outside the Capitol was heart-stopping. Those Capitol police were incredibly brave, as were the legislators from both sides who had to take cover, and then evasive actions. I got caught up in the trial for a couple hours. When they took a dinner break, I went out and rode. 

I'm from North Texas, not Austin. 

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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2021-02-11 12:05 PM
Subject: RE: impeCHMENT


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This faux impeachment proceeding is just that. FAKE!

1)  UnConstititional to impeach someone out of office. (So do The Democrats really believe DJT is out of Office?)

2) Per The Constituition, The Chief Justice of The Supreme Court is Constitionally mandated to be The Judge. That ain't happening! Senator Patrick Leahy is not Authorized per The Constution!

3) It is a waste of Taxpayer Dollars!

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-02-11 12:59 PM
Subject: RE: impeCHMENT



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BigTex are you a really big fan of "Breakfast At Tiffanys" I see that you are using the name of Holly Golitely and I remembed hearing that name from the movie.. Holly Golightly, 

                                               

            

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2021-02-11 1:13 PM
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foundation horse - 2021-02-11 12:05 PM


This faux impeachment proceeding is just that. FAKE!


1)  UnConstititional to impeach someone out of office. (So do The Democrats really believe DJT is out of Office?)


2) Per The Constituition, The Chief Justice of The Supreme Court is Constitionally mandated to be The Judge. That ain't happening! Senator Patrick Leahy is not Authorized per The Constution!


3) It is a waste of Taxpayer Dollars!


The Dems dont care about spending the Tax payers money, its their money to spend so why not waste it on cra* like this impeachment shi*.. No skin off their long lying nose's. 

Theres alot of homeless and hungry Americans with children out there, so why not spend the Tax payers moneys on them, at least it would count for something good instead of wasting it all..

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bigtex
Reg. Dec 2020
Posted 2021-02-11 3:16 PM
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Southtxponygirl, good catch! My mom loved Truman Capote's original story and then she loved the movie...

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-02-11 5:17 PM
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bigtex - 2021-02-11 10:25 AM


Southtxponygirl - 2021-02-11 10:02 AM


bigtex - 2021-02-10 5:05 PM


She's great! Had a lovely ride today, while the impeachment trial was on dinner break. Thanks for asking. 



I really dont get what you are saying,lol. So you took a lovely ride on your mare while the impeachment trial was on a break? You must really be into this impeachment thing, I could think of better things to be into watching. If I read this right, lol.. 


Are you from the Austin area? 



Yeah, I turned it on and found it fascinating. The previously un-aired security camera footage from inside and just outside the Capitol was heart-stopping. Those Capitol police were incredibly brave, as were the legislators from both sides who had to take cover, and then evasive actions. I got caught up in the trial for a couple hours. When they took a dinner break, I went out and rode. 


I'm from North Texas, not Austin. 


I thought it was magnificently brave how that Capitol policeman shot that unarmed MAGA hat wearing veteran girl between the eyes as she was climbing through the broken window.  
If you listen to the Obamunists, America will never be the same after the deadly Jan 6 "insurrection".  Chuck Schumer compared Jan 6 to Pearl Harbor.  CNN said it was very much like the Rwandan genocide, where nearly 1 million were butchered and killed and hundreds of thousands of women brutally raped.  Punishing Trump is just the beginning.  These loonies are just beginning the process of "re-ordering" society.  They have fortified the Capitol with walls, razor wire, and two heavily armed divisions. 
Of the 5 people who lost their lives during this "deadly" insurrection, 4 were Trump protestors.  The fifth was a police officer who was reportedly also a Trump supporter. One died from a stroke.  He was a bus driver who wasn't even near the site.  He had his stroke while waiting to drive protestors away from the Capitol.  One had a history of cardiovascular disease and had a heart attack. The woman who was shot in the face and killed was unarmed.  The results of the investigation into that shooting by the police officer have not been released, but we have been assured that this unarmed, veteran, white, mother of three was a clear and present danger as she was climbing through the broken window.  I fully expect the officer who killed her will be awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by President Biden....that is IF his identity is ever revealed.  I have a suspicion his identity would be revealed if it turned out that the officer was white and the veteran woman was black.....but since she was white, that won't happen, because...."White Privilege", you know.   They described this as an "armed insurrection", yet there are no reports of any weapons being used by the rioters.  Congressman Cicillini, D-RI, previously an attorney for the Mafia, assures us that this was nonetheless an "armed insurrection".  They claim that the police officer who lost his life was bludgeoned with a fire extinguisher.  His remains were laying in state as politicians streamed there to pay their last respects as a tribute to his service and bravery.  Many of these same hypocritical bastards were the same oily insurrectionists and provocateurs who literally encouraged the deadly riots in Democrat cities where billions in property was left in ashes, police precincts were forcefully occupied, and hundreds of police officers were wounded, some fatally.  That same officer who died during the riot honored by these hypocrites....purely because his tragic death served their political agenda.  Finally they had a cop to whom they could show their respect.  The rest in cities MInneapolis, Portland, Kenosha, and Seattle?  They needed to be dismantled and "defunded".  Our current Vice President literally said on National TV that the BLM organized riots would not stop, "NOR SHOULD THEY!"  There are absolutely no consequences for her provocative words of encouragement.  In point of fact, there is no evidence whatsoever that the police officer, Brian Sicknick, who died during the riot succumbed to any injury.  There is no evidence that he sustained a lethal blow to the head from a fire extinguisher.  In fact, hours after the riot was quelled, the officer sent a text to his brother saying he had been pepper sprayed but that he was fine.  The head of the Capitol police union said the officer died of a stroke.  Apparently there was an autopsy, but they have refused to release the findings.  His body was cremated immediately following the autopsy....so we may never know.  
As to the uprising itself, we have two theories.  One was that Trump provoked this violent insurrection on Jan 6 when he addressed the protestors and told them to "peacefully and patriotically" protest.  The other version was that the insurrection was planned in advance, according to the WaPo, no less.  Which version is accurate?  We don't know.  
We do know that Democrat supported groups like BLM and Antifa are experienced at contriving pretenses for violent riots.  George Floyd's death was the flashpoint they used last summer.  He died of a Fentanyl overdose, according to autopsy reports. 

In my opinion, all of this only proves that they are scared stiff of Trump and his supporters.  Trump embarrassed the establishment.  He must be destroyed and his 75 million supporters must be de-programmed, censored, and silenced.

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bigtex
Reg. Dec 2020
Posted 2021-02-11 7:58 PM
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Ashli Babbitt was among dozens clamboring at that doorway. Just on the other side of the door were legislators. The rioters were yelling "hang Pence," among other things. As a group, they were not peaceful. They were moving to come through that door they'd broken and that police officer drew his weapon and clearly indicated to them to stop. He is sworn to protect the lives of the elected lawmakers who were just behind him, vulnerable to harm. Ashli Babbitt and the surging crowd continued to advance. That's why she was shot. 

You don't have to take my word for it. Here's what State Rep. Markwayne Mullin, a Republican out of Oklahoma had to say:

"The mob was going to come through the door, there was a lot of members and staff that were in danger at the time. And when he [drew] his weapon, that's a decision that's very hard for anyone to make, and, once you draw your weapon like that, you have to defend yourself with deadly force." 

Mullin said police "showed a lot of restraint" and "did the best they could."

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-02-11 8:51 PM
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bigtex - 2021-02-11 7:58 PM

Ashli Babbitt was among dozens clamboring at that doorway. Just on the other side of the door were legislators. The rioters were yelling "hang Pence," among other things. As a group, they were not peaceful. They were moving to come through that door they'd broken and that police officer drew his weapon and clearly indicated to them to stop. He is sworn to protect the lives of the elected lawmakers who were just behind him, vulnerable to harm. Ashli Babbitt and the surging crowd continued to advance. That's why she was shot. 

You don't have to take my word for it. Here's what State Rep. Markwayne Mullin, a Republican out of Oklahoma had to say:

"The mob was going to come through the door, there was a lot of members and staff that were in danger at the time. And when he [drew] his weapon, that's a decision that's very hard for anyone to make, and, once you draw your weapon like that, you have to defend yourself with deadly force." 

Mullin said police "showed a lot of restraint" and "did the best they could."

Yes, that's the version we've been presented with.  What do you suppose would have happened had she been black?  I'll rephrase it another way.  Suppose an unarmed black woman was fatally shot while breaking down the door to get into a church or a police precinct station in MInneapolis?  Would that officer be hailed as a hero?  You know dam well there would be calls to prosecute for murder.  



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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2021-02-11 9:24 PM
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But she wasn't black....... a black person probably wouldn't have been able to get that close.  I thought what was presented in the impeachment hearings was pretty plain, even a 3rd grader could have understood.  Hillary answered questions for over 8 hours on Benghazi and we spent way more money and time investigating.  I think insisting you won and storming the capital deserves the time.  If he hadn't spent so much time at rallies and calling elected officials and acting like a mob boss we wouldn't be in the shape we are in with the pandemic.  I guess he never really said which April it was going to go away in.  Some of you are crazy. (Judging by the crazy conspiracy theories and not many really watch or read news) When you lose do you storm the entry booth and insist you won?  What do you teach your kids?  I don't think many of you are going to win any sportsmanship awards.

I love how anyone who has an opinion that differs for the masses is a troll, and we make up names.  Well I see why so many are Trump fans.  I can see the "very good people" he has at his rallies and why you all love him so.  Troll here.

When are you going to realize he only cares about himself.

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2021-02-11 11:46 PM
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Palopony - 2021-02-11 9:24 PM


But she wasn't black....... a black person probably wouldn't have been able to get that close.  I thought what was presented in the impeachment hearings was pretty plain, even a 3rd grader could have understood.  Hillary answered questions for over 8 hours on Benghazi and we spent way more money and time investigating.  I think insisting you won and storming the capital deserves the time.  If he hadn't spent so much time at rallies and calling elected officials and acting like a mob boss we wouldn't be in the shape we are in with the pandemic.  I guess he never really said which April it was going to go away in.  Some of you are crazy. (Judging by the crazy conspiracy theories and not many really watch or read news) When you lose do you storm the entry booth and insist you won?  What do you teach your kids?  I don't think many of you are going to win any sportsmanship awards.


I love how anyone who has an opinion that differs for the masses is a troll, and we make up names.  Well I see why so many are Trump fans.  I can see the "very good people" he has at his rallies and why you all love him so.  Troll here.


When are you going to realize he only cares about himself.


I didn't call you a troll.  You are just a garden variety leftist.  Nobody here said storming the Capitol was justified. As to Trump's response to the pandemic, I think Trump did a remarkable job, under the circumstances.  His Operation Warp Speed is why we have tens of millions vaccinated in less than a year.  He was praised by Cuomo and Newsome for his rapid mobilization and response to their dire needs at the time.  Speaking of Cuomo, what do you make of today's revelations? You may say "some of you are crazy", but I submit a great number of people here might think you are a nut.
So my question was, what if that veteran, unarmed woman who was shot happened to be black given the same circumstances?  Your answer: she wasn't black.

I rest my case. 

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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2021-02-12 5:44 AM
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Palopony - 2021-02-11 9:24 PM


But she wasn't black....... a black person probably wouldn't have been able to get that close.  I thought what was presented in the impeachment hearings was pretty plain, even a 3rd grader could have understood.  Hillary answered questions for over 8 hours on Benghazi and we spent way more money and time investigating.  I think insisting you won and storming the capital deserves the time.  If he hadn't spent so much time at rallies and calling elected officials and acting like a mob boss we wouldn't be in the shape we are in with the pandemic.  I guess he never really said which April it was going to go away in.  Some of you are crazy. (Judging by the crazy conspiracy theories and not many really watch or read news) When you lose do you storm the entry booth and insist you won?  What do you teach your kids?  I don't think many of you are going to win any sportsmanship awards.


I love how anyone who has an opinion that differs for the masses is a troll, and we make up names.  Well I see why so many are Trump fans.  I can see the "very good people" he has at his rallies and why you all love him so.  Troll here.


When are you going to realize he only cares about himself.


And that in and of itself is a racist comment. But yet The Democratic Party is all inclusive. Your words not mine!

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2021-02-12 6:21 AM
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Palopony - 2021-02-11 9:24 PM

But she wasn't black....... a black person probably wouldn't have been able to get that close.  I thought what was presented in the impeachment hearings was pretty plain, even a 3rd grader could have understood.  Hillary answered questions for over 8 hours on Benghazi and we spent way more money and time investigating.  I think insisting you won and storming the capital deserves the time.  If he hadn't spent so much time at rallies and calling elected officials and acting like a mob boss we wouldn't be in the shape we are in with the pandemic.  I guess he never really said which April it was going to go away in.  Some of you are crazy. (Judging by the crazy conspiracy theories and not many really watch or read news) When you lose do you storm the entry booth and insist you won?  What do you teach your kids?  I don't think many of you are going to win any sportsmanship awards.

I love how anyone who has an opinion that differs for the masses is a troll, and we make up names.  Well I see why so many are Trump fans.  I can see the "very good people" he has at his rallies and why you all love him so.  Troll here.

When are you going to realize he only cares about himself.

And that in and of itself is a racist comment. But yet The Democratic Party is all inclusive. Your words not mine!

How can you cry racist when you "very good people" stormed the capital with confederate flags, mace, zip ties, bear spray and guns?  Is that equipment most people take to rallies?  The hangman's thing was a nice touch.

We do include everyone and we sometimes call out our crazy.  We don't follow them to storm the capital and insist we won after 60 lawsuits.  I don't really consider myself a democrat or republican I have voted both ways.  Since you feel the need to call me a leftist, you won't mind if I label you a greedy 1%er.  Or do you like Dr Q better?

It appears many of the people arrested at the Capital had money issues and bankrupcy filings.  Hardly the 1% he caters to. 

Can't wait to hear his lawyers today.  I really like the one so religous he holds his head and prays before drinking. yet he represented Jeffrey Epstien. 

ETA:  Sorry I quoted FH, but Bear & him are birds of a feather.



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Posted 2021-02-12 6:46 AM
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Palopony - 2021-02-11 9:24 PM


But she wasn't black....... a black person probably wouldn't have been able to get that close.  I thought what was presented in the impeachment hearings was pretty plain, even a 3rd grader could have understood.  Hillary answered questions for over 8 hours on Benghazi and we spent way more money and time investigating.  I think insisting you won and storming the capital deserves the time.  If he hadn't spent so much time at rallies and calling elected officials and acting like a mob boss we wouldn't be in the shape we are in with the pandemic.  I guess he never really said which April it was going to go away in.  Some of you are crazy. (Judging by the crazy conspiracy theories and not many really watch or read news) When you lose do you storm the entry booth and insist you won?  What do you teach your kids?  I don't think many of you are going to win any sportsmanship awards.


I love how anyone who has an opinion that differs for the masses is a troll, and we make up names.  Well I see why so many are Trump fans.  I can see the "very good people" he has at his rallies and why you all love him so.  Troll here.


When are you going to realize he only cares about himself.



And that in and of itself is a racist comment. But yet The Democratic Party is all inclusive. Your words not mine!



How can you cry racist when you "very good people" stormed the capital with confederate flags, mace, zip ties, bear spray and guns?  Is that equipment most people take to rallies?  The hangman's thing was a nice touch.


We do include everyone and we sometimes call out our crazy.  We don't follow them to storm the capital and insist we won after 60 lawsuits.  I don't really consider myself a democrat or republican I have voted both ways.  Since you feel the need to call me a leftist, you won't mind if I label you a greedy 1%er.  Or do you like Dr Q better?


It appears many of the people arrested at the Capital had money issues and bankrupcy filings.  Hardly the 1% he caters to. 


Can't wait to hear his lawyers today.  I really like the one so religous he holds his head and prays before drinking. yet he represented Jeffrey Epstien. 


ETA:  Sorry I quoted FH, but Bear & him are birds of a feather.


Congratulations for the most idiotic statment on this thread. A long look in the mirror would be in order.

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bigtex
Reg. Dec 2020
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Bear - 2021-02-11 8:51 PM



bigtex - 2021-02-11 7:58 PM


Ashli Babbitt was among dozens clamboring at that doorway. Just on the other side of the door were legislators. The rioters were yelling "hang Pence," among other things. As a group, they were not peaceful. They were moving to come through that door they'd broken and that police officer drew his weapon and clearly indicated to them to stop. He is sworn to protect the lives of the elected lawmakers who were just behind him, vulnerable to harm. Ashli Babbitt and the surging crowd continued to advance. That's why she was shot. 


You don't have to take my word for it. Here's what State Rep. Markwayne Mullin, a Republican out of Oklahoma had to say:


"The mob was going to come through the door, there was a lot of members and staff that were in danger at the time. And when he [drew] his weapon, that's a decision that's very hard for anyone to make, and, once you draw your weapon like that, you have to defend yourself with deadly force." 


Mullin said police "showed a lot of restraint" and "did the best they could."



Yes, that's the version we've been presented with.  What do you suppose would have happened had she been black?  I'll rephrase it another way.  Suppose an unarmed black woman was fatally shot while breaking down the door to get into a church or a police precinct station in MInneapolis?  Would that officer be hailed as a hero?  You know dam well there would be calls to prosecute for murder.  


Yes, that is the version we were presented with: eyewitness accounts, cell phone video from the rioters side, and security footage from the interior and exterior of the Capitol complex. Rationally, the version that we've been presented is the actuallity of what happened. 

Your question about an unarmed black woman shot while breaking down the door of a church or precinct is an apples and oranges comparison. An unarmed black woman in a mob of people menacing and advancing on those in the church or precinct station might get shot. There might be heroism involved. I don't know, it's a made up deal. 

What happened to Ashli Babbitt isn't made up. Her blood is on Trump's hands. 

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jbhoot - 2021-02-12 6:46 AM


Palopony - 2021-02-12 6:21 AM



foundation horse - 2021-02-12 6:44 AM


Palopony - 2021-02-11 9:24 PM


But she wasn't black....... a black person probably wouldn't have been able to get that close.  I thought what was presented in the impeachment hearings was pretty plain, even a 3rd grader could have understood.  Hillary answered questions for over 8 hours on Benghazi and we spent way more money and time investigating.  I think insisting you won and storming the capital deserves the time.  If he hadn't spent so much time at rallies and calling elected officials and acting like a mob boss we wouldn't be in the shape we are in with the pandemic.  I guess he never really said which April it was going to go away in.  Some of you are crazy. (Judging by the crazy conspiracy theories and not many really watch or read news) When you lose do you storm the entry booth and insist you won?  What do you teach your kids?  I don't think many of you are going to win any sportsmanship awards.


I love how anyone who has an opinion that differs for the masses is a troll, and we make up names.  Well I see why so many are Trump fans.  I can see the "very good people" he has at his rallies and why you all love him so.  Troll here.


When are you going to realize he only cares about himself.



And that in and of itself is a racist comment. But yet The Democratic Party is all inclusive. Your words not mine!



How can you cry racist when you "very good people" stormed the capital with confederate flags, mace, zip ties, bear spray and guns?  Is that equipment most people take to rallies?  The hangman's thing was a nice touch.


We do include everyone and we sometimes call out our crazy.  We don't follow them to storm the capital and insist we won after 60 lawsuits.  I don't really consider myself a democrat or republican I have voted both ways.  Since you feel the need to call me a leftist, you won't mind if I label you a greedy 1%er.  Or do you like Dr Q better?


It appears many of the people arrested at the Capital had money issues and bankrupcy filings.  Hardly the 1% he caters to. 


Can't wait to hear his lawyers today.  I really like the one so religous he holds his head and prays before drinking. yet he represented Jeffrey Epstien. 


ETA:  Sorry I quoted FH, but Bear & him are birds of a feather.



Congratulations for the most idiotic statment on this thread. A long look in the mirror would be in order.


And Ya Know That Ain't Happening!

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bigtex - 2021-02-12 7:01 AM


Bear - 2021-02-11 8:51 PM



bigtex - 2021-02-11 7:58 PM


Ashli Babbitt was among dozens clamboring at that doorway. Just on the other side of the door were legislators. The rioters were yelling "hang Pence," among other things. As a group, they were not peaceful. They were moving to come through that door they'd broken and that police officer drew his weapon and clearly indicated to them to stop. He is sworn to protect the lives of the elected lawmakers who were just behind him, vulnerable to harm. Ashli Babbitt and the surging crowd continued to advance. That's why she was shot. 


You don't have to take my word for it. Here's what State Rep. Markwayne Mullin, a Republican out of Oklahoma had to say:


"The mob was going to come through the door, there was a lot of members and staff that were in danger at the time. And when he [drew] his weapon, that's a decision that's very hard for anyone to make, and, once you draw your weapon like that, you have to defend yourself with deadly force." 


Mullin said police "showed a lot of restraint" and "did the best they could."



Yes, that's the version we've been presented with.  What do you suppose would have happened had she been black?  I'll rephrase it another way.  Suppose an unarmed black woman was fatally shot while breaking down the door to get into a church or a police precinct station in MInneapolis?  Would that officer be hailed as a hero?  You know dam well there would be calls to prosecute for murder.  



Yes, that is the version we were presented with: eyewitness accounts, cell phone video from the rioters side, and security footage from the interior and exterior of the Capitol complex. Rationally, the version that we've been presented is the actuallity of what happened. 


Your question about an unarmed black woman shot while breaking down the door of a church or precinct is an apples and oranges comparison. An unarmed black woman in a mob of people menacing and advancing on those in the church or precinct station might get shot. There might be heroism involved. I don't know, it's a made up deal. 


What happened to Ashli Babbitt isn't made up. Her blood is on Trump's hands. 


OK, so let's discuss this like two friends having a civil disagreement over a cup of coffee.

Here's the point I'm trying to make.  See if you don't agree.  I'll use your own description of the actual event leading to Ashli's death and substitute a few key elements. Let's say a black woman named Ashli, a mother, wife, and veteran of the Iraq war, is at a BLM rally in MInneapolis and things quickly de-escalate into a violent riot. She is wearing a BLM cap and shirt. Property is destroyed and there is looting and burning.  The mob moves down the street chanting "Pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon".  They come upon a police station and break through the fence.  Police are trapped inside, and Ashli is among those at the front of the mob clamoring toward precinct station.  Rocks are thrown through the windows.  They try to break down the door, but only manage to break a window next to the door.  Ashli, who is unarmed, begins climbing through the broken window.  Fearing for his life and the lives of his fellow law enforcement officers, sworn to uphold the law, an officer draws his weapon and tells Ashli to stop, but she keeps climbing through the window.  She is unarmed but the officer views her as a threat.  The officer shoots her in the face from about 5-6 feet away, instantly killing her. Eventually, the crowd is dispersed and a couple are arrested.  We are left with an unarmed black woman who was a war veteran, a wife, and mother.....shot dead at point blank by a police officer.  What do you suppose the fallout would be?  I submit something along the lines of "systemic racism"....."murder of a black woman by a racist cop".  They would not say the officer was simply doing what he was trained to do, unless they wanted to claim that the cops are trained to be "racist".  The calls to dismantle and defund the police would be amplified.  There would most certainly be calls to arrest the officer and indict him on first degree murder charges.
Two virtually identical scenarios.  The only difference being the skin color of the victim and how the law enforcement officer is treated.  One is hailed as a hero and defender.  The other a murderer.  
To those who want to see this country destroyed from within, they couldn't care less about any of this.  All they care about is continuing to promote deep division, hate, strife, and civil war.  

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