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| Palopony - 2021-03-29 4:34 PM GLP - 2021-03-29 5:23 PM Palopony - 2021-03-29 2:09 PM Delta Cowgirl - 2021-03-29 2:13 PM I've had both doses of Pfizer. I made the decision to take it based on having asthma after having discussions with my allergist, cardiologist, pulmonologist and primary care physican. I am 65. My husband has had both doses of Moderna. He is 72. My husband & I took it for the same reasons. Signed up within a day of each other but I got Pfizer and him Moderna. Most of our friends have had one or the other so we are planning camping trips, trail rides and traveling. So happy we can all eat together again. I do worry about my teenage grandkids one who works in a grocery, and people who for whatever reason won't take the vaccine. They may very well survive the virus but can they afford the hospital bill they may get from it. I think many people have a lot of preexisting conditions they may not even know about. For that very reason I will wear a mask if required, however my state is doing away with them. I don't know that I would take the vaccine if I was 30 and still having kids, very hard decision. I waited until most of my friends and older people went first. We are also ready to get back to normal and not be afriad of catching it from those who think it's just like the flu. I know many people who have died from it and many who think it's nothing. I will not fly or be in any big crowds. Not so much because of Covid, it appears people are kind of crazy. If I don't quit collecting puppies, I'm going to have to live in the guest house. Said my husband as he left this morning. You do know that the vaccine doesn't keep you from getting Covid, that is supposed to only protect you from getting severe symptoms of Covid. Yes I am very aware of that, I'm also aware chances of being hospitalized are greatly reduced. Which is what I am hoping for. I'm also aware that many people choose to use horse wormer. To each their own I'm sure they all have risks. Life is full of choices. I met a nice couple in FL just insisting I try the wormer protocol, they thought it worked wonders. They had been eating wormer quite awhile. Didn't even meet them horse camping, in motor home on the beach. They did own horses from Columbus, OH. I did a little research on ivermectin since my husband took it when he got Covid. It's actually been in use for humans for quite a few years with little side effects. My husband was dizzy on his second dose, but it was for a day and that was all. In fact, his UC has been very quiet since his ivermectin doses. He DID NOT take horse wormer, it was 2 little pills taken once and again in 3 days.
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Whiteboy - 2021-03-29 6:53 PM The passport would not require you to take the vaccine. Let me give you an example. I want to go to Hawaii. If I go now, without the passport, I would be subject to the testing rules. The rules require a test 72 hours before I land in Hawaii. If I have my passport showing I'm vaccinated, then I dont have to bother with the pre flight testing. Thats it. They aren't trying to force anybody. Infact this is a pretty free market option. Give an incentive to get peopel to do what they want. I still dont get why people are so againt the vaccine. The government is trying to force you to take it. Take it or not travel certain methods of transportation, without taking a medical test? This is America. When did the government get the right to make us take medicine or not travel to other states, or prove we took something by a test? If it is a private company, they have the right to do what they want regarding tests/masks etc. If the government makes you prove one "item" that you are vaccinated for before you can travel via certain modes, what is going to stop them from making you prove that you have been vaccinated for any other "item"? We shouldn't have to take a test nor a vaccine to travel to a State in the United States. Certain people can die from taking "medicine". That and the fact this vaccine hasn't been around and not FDA thorough tested, makes people leery of taking it.
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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        Location: Kansas | Our government trying to force its citizens to receive the vaccine while tens of thousands of illegals cross our border, many Covid positive, at their leisure compliments of Biden/Harris. Please explain RockyMountainRacer how this is funny. I know Democrats have a strange sense of humor, if any at all, but really?
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | 3canstorun - 2021-03-30 8:34 AM
Whiteboy - 2021-03-29 6:53 PM
The passport would not require you to take the vaccine. Let me give you an example.
I want to go to Hawaii. If I go now, without the passport, I would be subject to the testing rules. The rules require a test 72 hours before I land in Hawaii. If I have my passport showing I'm vaccinated, then I dont have to bother with the pre flight testing.
Thats it. They aren't trying to force anybody. Infact this is a pretty free market option. Give an incentive to get peopel to do what they want. I still dont get why people are so againt the vaccine.
The government is trying to force you to take it. Take it or not travel certain methods of transportation, without taking a medical test? This is America. When did the government get the right to make us take medicine or not travel to other states, or prove we took something by a test? If it is a private company, they have the right to do what they want regarding tests/masks etc.
If the government makes you prove one "item" that you are vaccinated for before you can travel via certain modes, what is going to stop them from making you prove that you have been vaccinated for any other "item"? We shouldn't have to take a test nor a vaccine to travel to a State in the United States.
Certain people can die from taking "medicine". That and the fact this vaccine hasn't been around and not FDA thorough tested, makes people leery of taking it.
They will be forcing this on us and its coming. Now theres a app on cell phones to alert when you have come in close contact with someone thats got covid and then you will be tracked untill you get tested and clear of the covid. If you have Google or Apple on your cell phones it will automatically kick in without notice, so if you dont want to be tracked by the Public Health Authorities you better check this out. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| Frodo - 2021-03-30 11:15 AM
Our government trying to force its citizens to receive the vaccine while tens of thousands of illegals cross our border, many Covid positive, at their leisure compliments of Biden/Harris.
dumb question if yoour cell alerts to a person having covd why are they still giving test? |
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  Location: Nebraska | Palopony - 2021-03-29 1:09 PM
I don't know that I would take the vaccine if I was 30 and still having kids, very hard decision. I waited until most of my friends and older people went first.
If there were actually any way the vaccine would impact fertility, doctors wouldn't let women get it until they were married and had popped out 5 kids. |
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       Location: Oklahoma | I will not be getting it. Nor will my children. I don't trust a vaccine that has been rushed through for emergency use. It's taken years for Polio, etc to find a vaccine. My uncle received both doses and then 2 weeks after tested positive for Covid. I don't believe the propaganda behind the reasoning for this vaccine either. I've also done research and have discovered some things that don't sit well with the vaccine itself and the testing that's been done. I refuse to be a guinea pig. To each their own. Not having a vaccine has not prevented me from being near my family, celebrating occassions and living in fear. I also don't wear a mask. If you personally want the vaccine, I'll support you in your decision. And I expect you support me in mine. |
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  Location: Nebraska | TwistedK - 2021-03-30 2:40 PM
I will not be getting it. Nor will my children. I don't trust a vaccine that has been rushed through for emergency use. It's taken years for Polio, etc to find a vaccine. My uncle received both doses and then 2 weeks after tested positive for Covid.
I don't believe the propaganda behind the reasoning for this vaccine either. I've also done research and have discovered some things that don't sit well with the vaccine itself and the testing that's been done. I refuse to be a guinea pig.
To each their own. Not having a vaccine has not prevented me from being near my family, celebrating occassions and living in fear. I also don't wear a mask. If you personally want the vaccine, I'll support you in your decision. And I expect you support me in mine.
I'll be a guinea pig instead and I'll let you know if anything goes wrong! My first dose was fine but apparently the second dose tends to put the immune system into overdrive. |
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    Location: My happy place | RockyMountainRacer - 2021-03-31 11:00 AM TwistedK - 2021-03-30 2:40 PM I will not be getting it. Nor will my children. I don't trust a vaccine that has been rushed through for emergency use. It's taken years for Polio, etc to find a vaccine. My uncle received both doses and then 2 weeks after tested positive for Covid. I don't believe the propaganda behind the reasoning for this vaccine either. I've also done research and have discovered some things that don't sit well with the vaccine itself and the testing that's been done. I refuse to be a guinea pig. To each their own. Not having a vaccine has not prevented me from being near my family, celebrating occassions and living in fear. I also don't wear a mask. If you personally want the vaccine, I'll support you in your decision. And I expect you support me in mine. I'll be a guinea pig instead and I'll let you know if anything goes wrong! My first dose was fine but apparently the second dose tends to put the immune system into overdrive. Me too, I am tired of hiding from people who don't take this seriously. Now I feel they can be as scared of me as I have been from them for the last year. The few people who I know who have had reactions most of them have had the virus. All said it wasn't that bad and glad they took the shot. My first shot made my arm sore, but I hate shots. The day before the 2nd shot I decided to stain the deck, I hurt everywhere before I even got the shot, my left arm was the only place that didn't hurt, till I got the shot. I really had no reaction first shot hurt longer than the 2nd. ETA: I had Pfizer. All ready for Moderna because of Dolly but got Pfizer. Staining the deck with a brush scooting around on my rear was horrible. I still have more deck to stain. I would rather take another shot.
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    Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | TwistedK - 2021-03-30 3:40 PM
I will not be getting it. Nor will my children. I don't trust a vaccine that has been rushed through for emergency use. It's taken years for Polio, etc to find a vaccine. My uncle received both doses and then 2 weeks after tested positive for Covid.
I don't believe the propaganda behind the reasoning for this vaccine either. I've also done research and have discovered some things that don't sit well with the vaccine itself and the testing that's been done. I refuse to be a guinea pig.
To each their own. Not having a vaccine has not prevented me from being near my family, celebrating occassions and living in fear. I also don't wear a mask. If you personally want the vaccine, I'll support you in your decision. And I expect you support me in mine.
And I imagine, through your research, you probably don't feel any better about it when you hear someone say, "I got it - feel just fine;" or "I got it, felt sick one day, but then I was all good." Because it is more than about that, right? None of them are even approved, yet. but so many people are rushing to get it. |
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| I'm with you Twisted K. My husband and I are healthy and 32. We have a 4 year old daughter who is very healthy and active, and second baby on the way. We aren't getting the vaccine. We aren't against those who chose to, but we just aren't a high risk family. I am not a trend-setter. I don't rush out for latest technologies, I'm going to let the popularity race proceed and see what unfolds over the next few years.
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        Location: the end of the rainbow | I have 2 friends in their 70's. One has some heath issues, inlcuding asthma. She got the vaccine. My other friend now thinks that friend # 1's DNA has been altered and she has risked her life by getting vaccinated..  |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RockyMountainRacer, what are you seeing thats funny? Or you not resting and getting back to life since getting the covid vaccine or are you still scared? I dont see any of this being funny, I though all this was serious to you and dont see anything that could be a laughing matter. Explain Please!
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | willrodeo4food - 2021-03-31 6:30 PM
I have 2 friends in their 70's. One has some heath issues, inlcuding asthma. She got the vaccine. My other friend now thinks that friend # 1's DNA has been altered and she has risked her life by getting vaccinated.. 
Yes, that idea has been circulating for several months now. No, the mRNA vaccines don't change anyone's DNA. |
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| I don't have a problem with the vaccine either way. Get it or don't get it, your choice. I only have a problem with the covid passport because I believe it is backed by an agenda other than a pathway of returning to normal. Imagine coming from the very same peeps that find voter ID's problematic. You can't make this sh.., I mean crap up. |
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  Location: Nebraska | Southtxponygirl - 2021-04-01 7:53 AM
RockyMountainRacer, what are you seeing thats funny? Or you not resting and getting back to life since getting the covid vaccine or are you still scared? I dont see any of this being funny, I though all this was serious to you and dont see anything that could be a laughing matter.
Explain Please!
Dumb people are funny. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RockyMountainRacer - 2021-04-01 3:17 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2021-04-01 7:53 AM
RockyMountainRacer, what are you seeing thats funny? Or you not resting and getting back to life since getting the covid vaccine or are you still scared? I dont see any of this being funny, I though all this was serious to you and dont see anything that could be a laughing matter.
Explain Please!
Dumb people are funny.
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Ms. Dr. Phil
    Location: My happy place | txbredbr - 2021-03-31 12:16 PM
TwistedK - 2021-03-30 3:40 PM
I will not be getting it. Nor will my children. I don't trust a vaccine that has been rushed through for emergency use. It's taken years for Polio, etc to find a vaccine. My uncle received both doses and then 2 weeks after tested positive for Covid.
I don't believe the propaganda behind the reasoning for this vaccine either. I've also done research and have discovered some things that don't sit well with the vaccine itself and the testing that's been done. I refuse to be a guinea pig.
To each their own. Not having a vaccine has not prevented me from being near my family, celebrating occassions and living in fear. I also don't wear a mask. If you personally want the vaccine, I'll support you in your decision. And I expect you support me in mine.
And I imagine, through your research, you probably don't feel any better about it when you hear someone say, "I got it - feel just fine;" or "I got it, felt sick one day, but then I was all good." Because it is more than about that, right?
None of them are even approved, yet. but so many people are rushing to get it.
Txbredbr would you care to explain the highlighted part to me? Why would it bother anyone when someone is telling of their experience of getting the vaccine? If I had some strange reaction, I would think some would want to know, a few would be very happy. For all you anti vaccine people I have a DIL and son who feel the same way. Just told me Saturday how she was not getting the vaccine, her reasons sound a lot like many of you. Well today when she went to her office 4 people had tested positive (it's not a big office) and she is waiting for test results. However she feels really, really bad and can't taste or smell. So I guess Easter is off at our house, I sure hope she starts to feel better. I wish I could be as optimistic as you all, but we have a mid 30's news personality that has been very sick for 6 months. When I think of the people I know who have had it, if the people my age didn't die from it, they had a pretty mild case. The ones I know who have gotten real sick and just thought they were going to die have been 30 to 40. Thank goodness they didn't need hospitalization. Good luck to you all. As I said I was not on the "lets go first bandwagon" at all. If I didn't have so many friends in healthcare and most of my friends going first, I never would have done it. I hate needles and have never had a flu shot in my life. Also for the record I'm not trying to convince anyone. I personally don't care if you get it or not, since you aren't in my circle of friends. I do enjoy hearing the reasons why you won't, just to understand. However I know when I was considering it I liked to hear others experiences. I sure wouldn't get upset about it. JMO |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | RockyMountainRacer - 2021-03-30 2:57 PM
Palopony - 2021-03-29 1:09 PM
I don't know that I would take the vaccine if I was 30 and still having kids, very hard decision. I waited until most of my friends and older people went first.
If there were actually any way the vaccine would impact fertility, doctors wouldn't let women get it until they were married and had popped out 5 kids.
If someone asked my opinion, I would have to say we don't know yet. We probably won't know for sure because the vaccine hasn't been out long enough to say. Because of the concerns circulating out there, I would say it might be a good idea to hold off on the vaccine if you are a young healthy woman who wants to start a family. The risk from Covid19 in young healthy people is extremely small anyway. When you hear of "medical experts" saying "there's no evidence that the vaccine causes fertility issues" they are right....and they are also being clever in their wording. The accurate answer would be that we simply don't know for sure because we haven't been tracking these people long enough. My guess is that the vaccine has no effect on fertility....but I can't say that for sure until we are a couple years out. |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Scott, I think I asked you this question befor, if I'm repeating this question I'm sorry, but I'm been getting /hearing mixed answers about the Covid vaccine. If you get the vaccine is it suppose to help you to be immune to the virus or does it just help to make the covid virus easier to fight it off with less symptoms, I really dont understand how its supposed to work, just been hearing different ways its suppose to help you. And another question if you have had the covid do you need the vaccine? Just wondering....
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