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Location: Oklahoma | I have my Nutrena still, but I am shopping. What would you all recommend |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | fatchance - 2015-02-06 10:59 AM
CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM
I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous.
I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS!
I missed that about the trucks. What was said? |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | fatchance - 2015-02-06 11:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS!
We had at one time 24 trucks hauling feed.
You should be worried because some - not all truck drivers are some lazy people who won't even sweep a trailer out nor make sure the bins are empty. I can't count on my fingers how many claims we did pay out for contaminated feed after being assured by the driver's the floors were clean.
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Location: Washington | 3canstorun - 2015-02-06 9:06 AM fatchance - 2015-02-06 11:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS!
You should be worried because some - not all truck drivers are some lazy people who won't even sweep a trailer out nor make sure the bins are empty. I can't count on my fingers how many claims we did pay out for contaminated feed after being assured by the driver's the floors were clean.
Okay just got off the phone...again with our Purina mill here in Spokane, the manager assures me that Purina does indeed have mills designed and are used only for equine feed. He also said they check the grain haulers logs on what they have hauled in the past in order to decide if they can use that rig. They are ionophere free. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | fatchance - 2015-02-06 12:14 PM 3canstorun - 2015-02-06 9:06 AM fatchance - 2015-02-06 11:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS!
You should be worried because some - not all truck drivers are some lazy people who won't even sweep a trailer out nor make sure the bins are empty. I can't count on my fingers how many claims we did pay out for contaminated feed after being assured by the driver's the floors were clean.
Okay just got off the phone...again with our Purina mill here in Spokane, the manager assures me that Purina does indeed have mills designed and are used only for equine feed. He also said they check the grain haulers logs on what they have hauled in the past in order to decide if they can use that rig. They are ionophere free.
I wish that Purina and any other feed company that have separate facilities would list where these plants are (state wise) and the areas of distribution from those plants.
I am sure they (those plants) would gain a lot of new customers by doing so. I know I would be interested in such a list. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | want2chase3 - 2015-02-06 8:20 AM I imagine these feed companies have been flooded with phone calls and emails lately regarding this. That is what we need to do...Put the feed companies feet to the fire. Bottom line...what makes changes is when companies are hit in their pocketbook.
Years ago Purina had a real problem with their cattle feed and Purina did step up to the plate and did a voluntary recall and ended up also buying over 1200 head of cattle. This happened at the Gonzalez mill in Texas. It changed their practices but I still don't understand why they had a prohibited cattle feed substance in the plant to begin with. It was meat and bone meal fom other cattle that is the link to mad cow disease. From my understanding they now have segragated areas where they make their cattle and horse feed in Texas.
Edited by Nevertooold 2015-02-06 11:34 AM
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| So now what about Nutrena?? I am checking in to BlueBonnet but am still feeding the Nutrena. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | magic gunsmoke - 2015-02-05 5:27 AM I feed Triple Crown. I like it and have never had an issue. But I will be keeping an eye out on what facilities it is coming from. At this point I really don't want to switch to anything else. It would either be Nutrena or Purina and they are a lesser quality feed with a higher price for me. I really prefer a high fat feed...not much to choose from unless I get it shipped. The only other thing on the market that interests me is Renew Gold but I priced it out to get it shipped and it was not worth it!
I don't know if this has already been answered but some years ago, Nutrena took over the manufacture of Triple Crown feeds. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Sandok - 2015-02-06 11:32 AM So now what about Nutrena?? I am checking in to BlueBonnet but am still feeding the Nutrena.
Call Nutrena and ask if they make medicated cattle feed at the same location of the horse feed. Each mill might be different and the feed tag on your feed will say what plant it came from. It will be abbreviated with a few letters. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Nevertooold - 2015-02-06 11:37 AM
Sandok - 2015-02-06 11:32 AM So now what about Nutrena?? I am checking in to BlueBonnet but am still feeding the Nutrena.
Call Nutrena and ask if they make medicated cattle feed at the same location of the horse feed. Each mill might be different and the feed tag on your feed will say what plant it came from.  It will be abbreviated with a few letters.Â
I was told all Nutrena sold in OK stores (TSC, etc) is manufactured in a mill in OKC which is safe. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | want2chase3 - 2015-02-06 8:20 AM I imagine these feed companies have been flooded with phone calls and emails lately regarding this.
They need to be flooded with calls and e-mails. This is how things get changed. We can talk about it all day long on here but every person needs to be calling their feed manufacturer. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Get active on this. |
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| I just sent 5 emails to Triple crown from 5 different email addresses. I wrote them all differently as well. It will be interesting to see if I get a canned response to each one! |
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Location: On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams... | TrackinBubba - 2015-02-03 8:50 AM If anybody is feeding Seminole like I am...
Seminole Feed
At Seminole Feed, we are proud to have a plant that is free of all medications and ionophores. While we do manufacture a handful of livestock feeds, these feeds are made with the same ingredients as our horse feeds, so there is never a chance of contamination with an ingredient that will cause a horse harm. The only feed ingredients we house in our plant are those safe for equine consumption.
I feed Wellness Senior by Seminole. I was relieved after hearing that the plant is free of all meds and ionophores! Only the best for my old guys! |
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| TwistedK - 2015-02-06 10:40 AM
Nevertooold - 2015-02-06 11:37 AM
Sandok - 2015-02-06 11:32 AM So now what about Nutrena?? I am checking in to BlueBonnet but am still feeding the Nutrena.
Call Nutrena and ask if they make medicated cattle feed at the same location of the horse feed. Each mill might be different and the feed tag on your feed will say what plant it came from.  It will be abbreviated with a few letters.Â
I was told all Nutrena sold in OK stores (TSC, etc ) is manufactured in a mill in OKC which is safe.
 Cargill manufacturers Nutrena and Triple Crown. Most plants are ionophore free. BUT the plant in Sterling CO mixes BOTH and does use Rumensin which is monensin. I posted what they told me a few pages back. |
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| I don't feed processed grain per se, but I do feed Standlee alfalfa pellets and oats that I get from a family member. I contacted Standlee because you can't be too careful, and they are 100% ionophore free. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-06 1:03 PM I just sent 5 emails to Triple crown from 5 different email addresses. I wrote them all differently as well. It will be interesting to see if I get a canned response to each one!
You will get this one which is the same as the one that SKM got - Hello Nancy,
Thank you for reaching out to us. Your Triple Crown feed is made at the Southern States mill in Valdosta, GA and regarding the recent incidents, Southern States has made the following statement released to the public that I wanted to share with you! http://www.southernstates.com/articles/feed-statement2.aspx
Any other questions, please let us know.
Jessica Drexler, PAS
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952-905-2180 (direct line)
 952-473-6330 | website | blog | facebook | dealers
315 Lake Street East, Suite 300| Wayzata, MN 55391
From: Nancy Jones [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:01 AM
To: Triple Crown Answers
Subject: Feed
I am new to Triple Crown feed. Can you please answer a question for me?
Is any of the Triple Crown horse feed that would be distributed in SE Georgia produced in a mill that also uses monesin? Or other cattle additives?
Thanks
Nancy Jones
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| SKM - 2015-02-06 12:28 PM
TwistedK - 2015-02-06 10:40 AM
Nevertooold - 2015-02-06 11:37 AM
Sandok - 2015-02-06 11:32 AM So now what about Nutrena?? I am checking in to BlueBonnet but am still feeding the Nutrena.
Call Nutrena and ask if they make medicated cattle feed at the same location of the horse feed. Each mill might be different and the feed tag on your feed will say what plant it came from.  It will be abbreviated with a few letters.Â
I was told all Nutrena sold in OK stores (TSC, etc ) is manufactured in a mill in OKC which is safe. Cargill manufacturers Nutrena and Triple Crown. Most plants are ionophore free. BUT the plant in Sterling CO mixes BOTH and does use Rumensin which is monensin. I posted what they told me a few pages back.
That's where it gets dicey for me feeding the tc. Because another company actually manufactures it... we contact triple crown when really should we be talking directly to cargill?? That part got me confused. Lol! I got to thinking early this morning of when I ever had health issues with any of my horses. It hit me that when my older gelding started acting funny suddenly one afternoon. .. it was just a day or 2 after I had been talked into feeding ADM 12% Patriot. He looked "off" went of his feed and became very lethargic and very depressed. We hauled him to the vet .. his blood work showed pretty normal temp was normal and vet said it wasn't colic like symptoms. This was several Several months ago so who knows. They gave him some banamine and we just waited it out. Gave him something for ulcers too. I didn't feed him anymore after that incident, in fact I returned all the feed. Looking back it sure makes me wonder if that's what happened to him... |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-02-06 12:03 PM
I just sent 5 emails to Triple crown from 5 different email addresses. I wrote them all differently as well. It will be interesting to see if I get a canned response to each one!
It'll be interesting to see what you get |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Here's an article from the recall on Kountry Buffet horse feed from a few years ago...there are hundreds of articles, studies, and reports that show that there is NO safe limit of monensin in horse feed.
http://www.petmd.com/news/alerts-recalls/nws_recall_of_western_feed_distributed_in_nebraska_wyoming-13041 |
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| fatchance - 2015-02-06 10:59 AM
CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM
I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous.
I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS!
And this is sad for us as we as citizens want less government and we want to support our farmers. It is a double edged sword. |
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