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Just Let Me Run
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-26 6:58 PM
Subject: RE: PSSM: Buyers and Breeders and Owners Please Read


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I finally stuck my hair samples in the mail and sent it to Animal Genetics. They should receive it Monday so I'm hopingΒ I'll have an answer by Friday. I have a gelding and obviously am not going to breed. Should I be concerned whether AQHA has my results on record or not?
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-01-26 7:47 PM
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annemarea - 2014-01-26 5:36 PM
mtcanchazer - 2014-01-26 6:13 PM
OregonBR - 2014-01-14 11:27 AM 5 panel testing:

Animal Genetics is $95. (suppose to be faster) Holds no weight with AQHA.

AQHA is $85.  (takes 4-6 weeks)



I ordered my test kit from AQHA by phone on 1-3-14. Got it either 1-11-14 or 1-13-14.  I have it ready to send in now.
I sent in for a 5 panel and DNA test from AQHA more than 10 days ago, and I've checked with the credit union and AQHA hasn't even deposited/cashed my check yet. But, I imagine there are a lot of people trying to get their (DNA)testing done for breeding season.  I guess I'll just have to be patient. Between AQHA and USPS, it will probably be June before I get any results.



My mare has never tied up (to my knowledge, no symptoms of it), but has quite a few of the symptoms of PSSM (and the symptoms, of course, that are interchangeable between type 1 and type 2).  And now that I think about it, when I got her back from the trainer's about 4 years ago, he said she would be best if she was worked every day, which is, unfortunately not plausible for me.   
Yes, they are so high maintenance!  And anytime you hear a trainer say things like  "needs a job" or "needs to be worked every day" or "needs rode hard" your ears should perk up and think about this disorder.  I'm sure it's gonna be quite crazy with everyone trying to get their tests done!  Good luck!  Hope you aren't waiting too long! 

 When I purchased my mare and had her trained, I had no experience with or knowledge of PSSM. I had seen something about it on AQHA's web site, but thought nothing of it until reading on BHW recently.  So I just figured she had a lot of energy (which mostly she does) when the trainer said she should be worked every day. At the time I could work her 5 days a week most weeks in the summer, but things have (unfortunately) changed since then. I'm trying to figure out what to do if she does have PSSM as I can't ride every day and I have boarded with the same person for nearly 8 years and it is pasture board.   

To the above poster (Just Let Me Run), since your horse is a gelding, I wouldn't worry about what AQHA thinks. The test from Animal Genetics will allow you find out if your gelding has PSSM (or not), and then you can make changes accordingly. My horse is a mare, so I figured I should just get the DNA and 5 panel done once and for all with AQHA and not bother about it again.
  
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-01-27 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: PSSM: Buyers and Breeders and Owners Please Read


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OregonBR - 2014-01-14 10:27 AM 5 panel testing:

Animal Genetics is $95. (suppose to be faster) Holds no weight with AQHA.

AQHA is $85.  (takes 4-6 weeks)



I ordered my test kit from AQHA by phone on 1-3-14. Got it either 1-11-14 or 1-13-14.  I have it ready to send in now.

I ordered my test kit from AQHA on 01-02-14, received the kit on 01-13-14. Pulled mane hairs on 01-14-14 and mailed out on same day. I just called AQHA and they have my results, mailed them out to me on 01-24-14.  They did provide my results over the phone.  Negative across the board, except Gbed - she is N/Gbed. So a carrier of the Gbed gene.  I figured she might be as she is double bred King on top.  I'm relieved to know she is N/N for PSSM1.    
 
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-27 12:54 PM
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That's excellent.  I'm going to call at lunch time. Cross your fingers for me.   
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-28 5:36 PM
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I called AQHA for the results today at lunchtime.  Honors A Bounding is N/N across the board.  YaY!
Now for the mares.  I'm starting with the 2 open ones. 
 
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annemarea
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-01-28 8:16 PM
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OregonBR - 2014-01-28 5:36 PM I called AQHA for the results today at lunchtime.  Honors A Bounding is N/N across the board.  YaY!

Now for the mares.  I'm starting with the 2 open ones. 

 

 Awesome news!!!
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-01-28 8:19 PM
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Yay! AQHA got my $$ and cashed it, so I hope to receive my test soon. :)

Bad news, the more I read about PSSM, the more it sounds like my mare. :( I may, however, have the possibility to bring her closer to town this spring and change her feed and exercise program and see if it helps. But nothing set in stone yet.
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Just Let Me Run
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-28 8:28 PM
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Animal Genetics sent me a confirmation email tonight. I'm hoping I'llΒ  have answers as early as Friday.
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-01-28 8:35 PM
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OregonBR - 2014-01-28 3:36 PM I called AQHA for the results today at lunchtime.  Honors A Bounding is N/N across the board.  YaY!

Now for the mares.  I'm starting with the 2 open ones. 

 

 Congratulations!!!  

 
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-28 8:40 PM
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Thank you.  
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-01-28 9:01 PM
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So, while I was on tonight, I thought I'd add my horse's pedigree. I haven't received my test from AQHA, but am hoping it comes soon. If Moon Deck is the cause...my mare goes back to him.  I also notice from other's pedigrees that another common denominator was the Leo and the Three Bars bloodline (including my mare's bloodlines). Any possibilities there?

Here's my mare's pedigree:   
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/reds+foxxe+lady+bug

Edited by mtcanchazer 2014-01-28 9:11 PM
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-01-28 9:07 PM
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I'm no expert on this, but, I don't really see anything that stands out from reading the PSSM forum and looking at the pedigrees there.  I hope you get the same results I did.  This is my guys pedigree.   http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/honors+a+bounding
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-01-28 9:14 PM
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Thanks Oregonbr, and congratulations on your stud. I hope you are correct about PSSM and my mare's bloodlines. :)  
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Hooch
Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2014-01-28 10:35 PM
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My first post so wish me luck. If you will check Mr G Diamond on your horses pedigree you will find he goes back to Roan Hancock through Connie Hancock on the bottom of your horses mare line. On a side note I ran barrels back in the 70's and have wanted to buy a nice strong bloodline horse to run or raise baby's and I find myself scared to purchase due to the genetic monsters running amok in the industry. What a shame that common sense and desire to improve the breed is overwhelmed by the money changers and the too ignorant to care. Thanks to all who spread the word.
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annemarea
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-01-28 10:43 PM
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Hooch - 2014-01-28 10:35 PM

My first post so wish me luck. If you will check Mr G Diamond on your horses pedigree you will find he goes back to Roan Hancock through Connie Hancock on the bottom of your horses mare line. On a side note I ran barrels back in the 70's and have wanted to buy a nice strong bloodline horse to run or raise baby's and I find myself scared to purchase due to the genetic monsters running amok in the industry. What a shame that common sense and desire to improve the breed is overwhelmed by the money changers and the too ignorant to care. Thanks to all who spread the word.

Welcome to the board, Hooch!
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Just Let Me Run
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-01-29 6:01 PM
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Cactus is N/N. Which means he has a lot of growing up to do! Β 
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dme0324
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2014-01-29 8:10 PM
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Just Let Me Run - 2014-01-29 6:01 PM Cactus is N/N. Which means he has a lot of growing up to do!  

Wow,  but what a relief on the PSSM1.   
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PaintedPrincess
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-02-25 11:32 AM
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just wanted to bump this thread up... very interesting stuff.
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annemarea
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-02-25 4:48 PM
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Really hoping they discover the gene associated with Type 2, soon! I think it will be interesting to see what lines they find it in.
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-02-25 5:14 PM
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This was an interesting read on the Waggoner ranch that was shared.

 
http://waggonerranch.com/1956QHJournal/AQHA1956a.pdf
 
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