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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-16 4:50 PM
Subject: RE: NFR Moving- Cowboy Christmas?



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Matts, I totally agree.  Living within 5 hours I know exactly what you are talking about.  My son lived there going to college, I do not know how he did it.  Let alone everywhere is on a turnpike where they quarter you to death.  

Also, someone else brought up, what about the quarratine that FL will have to have for the stock that is from Canada?  Of course we do just personal health certificates on our animals, but that question also makes you wonder. 
 
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-16 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?



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I havent read everything but here is my two cents...

I think that people forget that Vegas has taken one of the biggest economic hits than any other major city in the U.S. They may not have much more to offer than they have. I realize they make a big profit but I have yet to see a confirmed amount. You also have to consider their profit vs how much they put out for this even.

I also am with the other posters on kids. I dont think the NFR is really a "kid" place. Not just because its in Vegas and I am not in favor of bringing it to FL just because its more "family friendly." I have no desire to go to florida for water parks and disney land. If I am going to go to Florida I am going to spend my time on the beach. I also disagree that Vegas has nothing for kids. I personally do not gamble... Circus circus is a great attraction for kids. I went to multiple exhibits such as an underwater world. They have different things for kids if you want them. Vegas is more geared towards adults but kids CAN go and have fun.

I understand the contestants want more money but I am afraid a move like this will have very detrimental consequences long term on the sport and event. I think it will be a lot more expensive in Florida and I think many people will choose to pass.

I do not plan on going and I am making it a point to go for the first time in 2014!!!
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kakbarrelracer
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-16 5:48 PM
Subject: RE: NFR Moving- Cowboy Christmas?



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mattslilwonder - 2013-12-16 2:50 PM

Let me start by saying.... I am a born/bred Floridian and I think it is a HORRIBLE IDEA!  Do they have any clue as to how "spread out" everything is in Kissimmee, FL.  In December the streets/roads are filled with "tourist", "snowbirds" and our roads are already bad enough, and during the time of the NFR there is also the "ICE" going on at Gaylord Palms and there are not any close hotels either.  There is also no real night life or clubs in Kissimmee either and downtown Orlando is just totally boring, what is everyone going to do, drive 1 1/2 hours + traffic back to Tampa to go to the Hard Rock Hotel/Casino!  There is no gambling in that area, no "open container law" so people can't walk up and down the streets with their favorite adult beverage. The only "shows" are Blue Man Group, Midevil Times, Arabian Nights and a few others.

In 2015 trying to get into the Amway Center in Orlando will be a NIGHTMARE!  Believe me it is not a good area to try to have something of this magnitude and yes there are rodeos in FL and allot of horses but look at how far some people, like Sherry Cervi, will have to travel!  Plus the ground here is very very different, and the humidity (yes even in December we have 100% humidity with 85+ degrees) will both allot of the horses if they are not used to it.

Well at least Kaley will be able to drive back/forth to the house and keep her horses are home! 

 I asked earlier but is there any time if the year that is better for the NFR? The NFR might not have to be in December.
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God Is My Light
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2013-12-16 5:59 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?





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I think that nobody realizes that Florida is known as the "service state " LVG aint got nothing on Florida, if the NFR does go there they will make it bigger and better then Vegas ever could I am sorry that's the truth, and as much as I would have loved to have run down the T&M alley way ....I really don't care where it goes, I am pretty sure if I made the Finals and I was going to run in FL I really wouldn't care that it wasn't in LVG.....its sounds stupid now, but you watch if it goes to Florida they will treat it right and GO BIG its just they way they roll down there ......that's why I love it. Can anyone be positive about anything on this board ? come on y'all who cares where its at, if the Pros go with it so will I, its the people that make Rodeo and the NFR special not the city or state .......just support the dang thang wherever it goes, its in the athletes and directors hand not ours.

Edited by God Is My Light 2013-12-16 6:02 PM
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2013-12-16 6:24 PM
Subject: IF NFR HAD to move...What city?


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What city would you pick and why?

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hopin4$
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2013-12-16 6:28 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?


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I wouldn't trust hurricane season or sinkholes in Florida. lol.
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Red Raider
Reg. Jul 2010
Posted 2013-12-16 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?



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Ladies and Gentlemen . . . the NFR has left the building. 

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/national-finals-rodeo-leave-las-vegas
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Komet
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2013-12-16 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?



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hopin4$ - 2013-12-16 6:28 PM

I wouldn't trust hurricane season or sinkholes in Florida. lol.

Yeah.. that poor fella that was lost to a sink-hole while he was in bed....
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yellowhorse1
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2013-12-16 6:31 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?




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God Is My Light - 2013-12-16 5:59 PM

I think that nobody realizes that Florida is known as the "service state " LVG aint got nothing on Florida, if the NFR does go there they will make it bigger and better then Vegas ever could I am sorry that's the truth, and as much as I would have loved to have run down the T&M alley way ....I really don't care where it goes, I am pretty sure if I made the Finals and I was going to run in FL I really wouldn't care that it wasn't in LVG.....its sounds stupid now, but you watch if it goes to Florida they will treat it right and GO BIG its just they way they roll down there ......that's why I love it. Can anyone be positive about anything on this board ? come on y'all who cares where its at, if the Pros go with it so will I, its the people that make Rodeo and the NFR special not the city or state .......just support the dang thang wherever it goes, its in the athletes and directors hand not ours.

I think you are correct. I don't care where it moves to as long as it helps grow the sport. But to discount the people putting up the bid in Florida is crazy! I feel confident that area can meet or exceed what Vegas put on.
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CurlyQ
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2013-12-16 6:32 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?


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heidiinaz - 2013-12-16 9:47 AM Ok wait with all the banter back and forth I'm lost. Is it moving to FL? Or is it NOT?

 Nothing has been decided and Florida isn't the only consideration. They're taking bids and proposals from anyone and everyone.
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Stitch4k9
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2013-12-16 6:49 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?


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From the PRCA website............

 
Dec.16, 2013

The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association Board of Directors voted Dec. 15 to reject the terms of the current financial offer from Las Vegas Events to extend the WNFR contract past 2014. The PRCA Board did not vote to leave Las Vegas; the vote was made strictly on the content of the current offer. The PRCA continues to carefully consider offers from all potential WNFR hosts.
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RoadToVegas
Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2013-12-16 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?


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For all you saying its all about greed will you stop and think about the contestants? It takes their regular seasons earnings just to get to the NFR. They are the ones putting on this show that is making Vegas 200 million. Yet Vegas won't add more to the purse??? Yeah sounds like greed coming from VEGAS! The PRCA needs to stand up for its contestants. Also the contestants are the ones who voted to not sign the contract with Vegas again for the same amount of money. Nobody is telling Vegas they can't pay more money and keep the NFR. They are just hoping people will throw enough of fit so they can get out of paying the contestants.
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RoadToVegas
Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2013-12-16 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?


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For all you saying its all about greed will you stop and think about the contestants? It takes their regular seasons earnings just to get to the NFR. They are the ones putting on this show that is making Vegas 200 million. Yet Vegas won't add more to the purse??? Yeah sounds like greed coming from VEGAS! The PRCA needs to stand up for its contestants. Also the contestants are the ones who voted to not sign the contract with Vegas again for the same amount of money. Nobody is telling Vegas they can't pay more money and keep the NFR. They are just hoping people will throw enough of fit so they can get out of paying the contestants.
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God Is My Light
Reg. Nov 2013
Posted 2013-12-16 7:00 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?





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RoadToVegas - 2013-12-16 6:59 PM

For all you saying its all about greed will you stop and think about the contestants? It takes their regular seasons earnings just to get to the NFR. They are the ones putting on this show that is making Vegas 200 million. Yet Vegas won't add more to the purse??? Yeah sounds like greed coming from VEGAS! The PRCA needs to stand up for its contestants. Also the contestants are the ones who voted to not sign the contract with Vegas again for the same amount of money. Nobody is telling Vegas they can't pay more money and keep the NFR. They are just hoping people will throw enough of fit so they can get out of paying the contestants.

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RoadToVegas
Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2013-12-16 7:13 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?


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stayceem - 2013-12-16 5:32 PM

I havent read everything but here is my two cents...

I think that people forget that Vegas has taken one of the biggest economic hits than any other major city in the U.S. They may not have much more to offer than they have. I realize they make a big profit but I have yet to see a confirmed amount. You also have to consider their profit vs how much they put out for this even.

I also am with the other posters on kids. I dont think the NFR is really a "kid" place. Not just because its in Vegas and I am not in favor of bringing it to FL just because its more "family friendly." I have no desire to go to florida for water parks and disney land. If I am going to go to Florida I am going to spend my time on the beach. I also disagree that Vegas has nothing for kids. I personally do not gamble... Circus circus is a great attraction for kids. I went to multiple exhibits such as an underwater world. They have different things for kids if you want them. Vegas is more geared towards adults but kids CAN go and have fun.

I understand the contestants want more money but I am afraid a move like this will have very detrimental consequences long term on the sport and event. I think it will be a lot more expensive in Florida and I think many people will choose to pass.

I do not plan on going and I am making it a point to go for the first time in 2014!!!

It is 200 million. Yeah I think they have the money to add.... Also that number is taken off of Shane Hancheys FB post that he explained what he thought about it.
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Komet
Reg. May 2011
Posted 2013-12-16 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: 2015 NFR- Vegas or Florida?



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Red Raider - 2013-12-16 6:29 PM

Ladies and Gentlemen . . . the NFR has left the building. 

http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/national-finals-rodeo-leave-las-vegas

...and if you read the comments.. lots of people FROM there are saying those 10 days are the biggest event time of the year.. This will not be good for that city if the NFR leaves.
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Ethel
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2013-12-16 8:14 PM
Subject: Tyson Durfey's take on moving the NFR..



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Thank you for that info Tyson Durfey

"I have seen alot of post on social media over the past 24 hours regarding the NFR and the potential move to Florida. There is a lot of very shady arrangements regarding Las Vegas and how they do their contracts. For example over the past several years they have turned down the ability to add extra money for the cowboys. As we all know the National Finals Rodeo adds a little over 6 million dollars ...in prize money with a 1.7% increase in the contract per year. The increase does not even keep up with inflation. There is a reason why other cities in America have offered nearly 3 times the amount to bring the NFR to other cities. Vegas has had numerous opportunities to increase their bid but just will not do it even though the NFR brings overs 200 million in gross revenue into the city. Just so everybody knows we as NFR qualifiers controlled that vote to turn down the existing contract of 6 million. So when you are mad and upset about the potential move realize that you are mad at the contestants you support. I know that Rodeo has the greatest fans in any American sport we as competitors are just trying to take the sport to the next level and make enough money to have something left when we get too old to Rodeo. Thank youf".
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TXBO
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2013-12-16 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Tyson Durfey's take on moving the NFR..



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Tyson needs to stick to roping.
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RoadToVegas
Reg. Oct 2012
Posted 2013-12-16 8:14 PM
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TXBO - 2013-12-16 7:47 PM

Tyson needs to stick to roping.

Why? He is one of the only people that should really have a say in this lol without the contestants there would be no show. Fans who want to see the best of the best will go where ever the NFR is.
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2013-12-16 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Tyson Durfey's take on moving the NFR..



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 I agree.......everyone can have an opinion but Tyson's comments.....well....let's just say he should stick to roping or take some advice from Caleb Driggers
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