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| Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
You do see that your comments seem contradictory, don't you?
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you. | |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
Edited by sodapop 2014-03-08 8:38 PM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:36 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
You said that you would be saddened to see an NFR where no women ran in barrels. If that happened, I would think that in that particular year men dominated. I didn't "twist" your words. I just thought you sounded contradictory and that probably irritates you.
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:48 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:36 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
Do you think there would be a chance the top 15 could be men if men were allowed? What do you really think?
Edited by sodapop 2014-03-08 9:12 PM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:55 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:48 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:36 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
Do you think there would be a chance the top 15 could be men if men were allowed? What do you really think?
I'm trying to be polite, but you don't even make sense. The scenario you posed was one where no women qualified for the NFR. That means men dominate in your hypothetical scenario, which I might add is about as likely as pigs flying....nonetheless, I suppose that is a possibility. The more likely extreme scenario, in my opinion, would be a year where all women qualify, even if men were allowed to compete.
You said, "I guess the top 15 at the NFR dominated the WPRA" This made me scratch my head. Then, to further make me wonder about you, you said, " I think it is an equal playing field with the exception that presently there are probably more women barrel racers than men. Ya think??? Am I missing something, or do you simply not know what you're talking about?
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 9:14 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:55 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:48 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:36 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
Do you think there would be a chance the top 15 could be men if men were allowed? What do you really think?
You said, "I guess the top 15 at the NFR dominated the WPRA" This made me scratch my head. Am I missing something, or do you simply not know what you're talking about?
My reference to equal playing field I actually meant both genders are able to compete at a top level. I didn't mean it was equal in numbers of competitors. Sorry about that misunderstanding.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | sodapop - 2014-03-08 9:18 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 9:14 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:55 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:48 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:36 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
Do you think there would be a chance the top 15 could be men if men were allowed? What do you really think?
You said, "I guess the top 15 at the NFR dominated the WPRA" This made me scratch my head. Am I missing something, or do you simply not know what you're talking about?
So, use whatever word you wish. I choose to say that scenario that you described would be one in which one gender happened to dominate in that year. Now you are getting silly. What would you prefer I call it?
If the US olympic ski team wins all the medals in the downhill, that is considered a dominant performance. The press would say the US ski team dominated that event. Do you find that offensive too? | |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 9:29 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 9:18 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 9:14 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:55 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:48 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:36 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-03-08 8:30 PM sodapop - 2014-03-08 8:21 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share? .
Does anyone see the day where no women would make it to the NFR?
If that's what you fear, then you are saying that you think men might dominate the sport. Are men that much better? I doubt many here would agree with you.
If we are going to try to twist people's words... let's twist yours..... So you don't think there are 15 men out there who could qualify for the NFR? and you don't think that there is ever a chance men could be the top 15?
Do you think there would be a chance the top 15 could be men if men were allowed? What do you really think?
You said, "I guess the top 15 at the NFR dominated the WPRA" This made me scratch my head. Am I missing something, or do you simply not know what you're talking about?
If the US olympic ski team wins all the medals in the downhill, that is considered a dominant performance. The press would say the US ski team dominated that event. Do you find that offensive too?
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Hollywood's Fan - 2014-03-08 7:43 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-09 4:19 PM Here's a thought. The reason we don't want men in the WPRA (running at the NFR) is because WOMEN worked so hard to get the barrel race in pro rodeo to where it is today that WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE with you men. It's not fear at all. It's wanting to hold on to what we women collectively earned and keep all of it for ourselves. Sound familiar? This comment is almost funny. You say that women want to keep men out because WE DON'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU MEN. Then you say, its not fear at all. Well, if you are not afraid that men are going to win, than what are you afraid to share?
Don't misunderstand me here. I don't think the WPRA should be forced to include men in their ranks. I don't think that any organization should be forced to be coed. BUT, and here is the rub girls - IF MEN IN BARREL RACING BECOMES POPULAR WITH THE FANS, THE WPRA IS EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE WITH THE TIMES, OR THE PRCA JUST MIGHT TAKE OVER THE BARREL RACING AT THEIR RODEOS, INCLUDE THE MEN AND THE WPRA WILL BE OUT IN THE COLD. The fact is, the two barrel racers who got the most attention from the FANS at the American were June Holeman and Clint Sherlin. The crowd loved Clint. That is pretty hard to ignore from a producer's standpoint. Rodeo is a show, and the producers are going to do what pleases the crowd/sells the tickets.
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I have to say some of you are making me scratch my head! You want the WPRA to stay women only. Tradition and all. But, you also claim the American will take over and kill the NFR. So which tradition is important again?
Glad everyone enjoyed the American but I seriously doubt it will replace the PRCA or the NFR. Sponsors want as much bang for their buck as they can get. One Sunday in Dallas does not compare to 10 televised days, meetings, etc., in Vegas. And again its that tradition thing.
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Location: Midwest | Personally, I would prefer the WPRA/NFR to stay just women. This is from a spectator's perspective, BTW
Women bring a certain style and grace to the NFR. The glitz, the glamour, and the tradition together.... I will admit, I love it! I don't rodeo, and I run against men at 4D's all the time. Sometimes I beat them, sometimes they beat me. Doesn't bother me at all, and I like having the guys around.
There is just something about rodeo... the "show", the tradition, and the style. The sum of those ideas is something beautiful to watch in the barrel racing.
No offense, but it's just not as exciting to watch a dude under the lights. I still admire their skill (no doubt), as they would likely outride me any day of the week. They are also still fun to watch, for sure. There is just something about the grace and style of the NFR ladies I think is more fun to watch.
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Glad everyone enjoyed the American but I seriously doubt it will replace the PRCA or the NFR. Sponsors want as much bang for their buck as they can get. One Sunday in Dallas does not compare to 10 televised days, meetings, etc., in Vegas. And again its that tradition thing.
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This we will have to see......I don't think the American will ever put the PRCA and the NFR out of business but they sure may give them a run for their money (sponsors). When you p*ff off over 80+ of your top cowboys and cowgirls to the point that they want to start a new association, you have certainly shot yourself in the foot. I don't think any of them will "trust" the PRCA again. Additionally, I look for the American to expand and be more that a one day shot....maybe high $$ qualifiers or more money in the semi-finals, etc.....who knows......One thing for sure, it gave all cowboys and cowgirls a place to win some REAL money.... | |
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| Stitch4k9 - 2014-03-09 1:09 AM
Let the guys run..... kick their butt and take their money.
I have to say some of you are making me scratch my head! You want the WPRA to stay women only. Tradition and all. But, you also claim the American will take over and kill the NFR. So which tradition is important again?
Glad everyone enjoyed the American but I seriously doubt it will replace the PRCA or the NFR. Sponsors want as much bang for their buck as they can get. One Sunday in Dallas does not compare to 10 televised days, meetings, etc., in Vegas. And again its that tradition thing.
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In 13 pages not one person has said that American would replace the PRCA or the NFR. It may vary well force them to change their format but no one has said that it would replace. | |
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