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| I don't have a horse in this fight, but I don't know how people can blame the producer, it costs a lot of money to put on a high caliber show, years of planning, money in advertising, programs, the commitment of help, etc. it is not that simple to cancel, refund, or schedule a different date.
People need to take ownership of your own actions.
Anytime I enter an event, I know there is a chance I may not be able to attend, it could be horse issues, family, truck, my own health, etc. once I write the check, I know that money is gone whether or not I attend, the money is out of my account.
There is no guarantee that an individual will make money, so if you cannot afford to pay the fee and forfeit, then maybe you shouldn't be barrel racing.
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to attend, if people are concerned stay home and quit worrying about what other people are doing. | |
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Location: Soon to be outta here:) | Frenchie - 2014-04-30 11:14 AM
Horse-racin - 2014-04-30 11:02 AM  Just to be clear --- should we stay home from local  jackpots that ARE NOT overnight stalled races -races that we just haul in, run and leave?   I completely understand about hauling and stalling for several days but want to be clear on the local jackpots.
Talk to YOUR vet or a state vet. Don't take social media advice on things of this magnitude. I posted a link to the UC Davis webinar last night and it had some very, very good information that was backed by strong scientific data. Don't assume someone on FB or BHW knows better. Â
I am all for bio security and we have made some choices including staying home from BRF and the R4R. I am not pointing fingers at those who went, its their choice and for the VAST majority it seems a safe choice.
This is beside the topics of the above paragraphs and I won't be a poplular statement but there certainly wasn't his outrage before the BRF. The virus was just as prevalent then, the timeline if anything was more suspect at that point. Now fewer people have less money on the line and there is a massive outcry to cancel or not go. Lets be fair here, everything stayed civil at that time. Like it or not we ALL have a dog in the fight with all these events and what could come of them. Just because your entry check isn't sitting at RHR don't think others aren't invested financially, emotionally in this deal. Again, not pointing at any certain post and I've pulled horses from both events, just a little frustrated that a huge event earlier didn't get near this level heat and now that its a smaller crowd involved in the current debated event the convo has gotten so hot. Do I agree that maybe postponement would be best ? YOU BET I DO. But I don't agree with people who were ok with hauling when the case suited them later going public against those who are looking at doing exactly the same thing. Just asking everyone to remember these decisions aren't easy, info, even from vets is conflicting and their are a million different viewpoints.Â
I honestly think that the difference between the cases that happened before and this new one at the BRF is just the amount of horses that were there and the possibility of it spreading.
When it was just in mn it was a much smaller group of horses that it effected because there were a lot less horses there. And the horses that were there were pretty much from the same general area. So it stays a little more isolated.
The difference between that time and at the BRF is that there were a ton more horses from all over there. Before it was just in MN and WI mostly, but now that's not the case. There was the one in Kansas and who knows how many more it could effect with all of these horses from all over. The races before were smaller more local races, so the horses that got infected and could get infected, were a smaller amount.
With these big races people haul in from all over, which means that it has the possibility of spreading farther. That's why there is so much more of an uproar over this time than the last time, because so many more horses from all over could be infected.
And I know that it maybe is small amount that shows symptoms, but what if your horse was that 1%? Or, not even that, what if it was your best friends horse, or a 12 year old kids first horse?
I think people were just hoping or assuming or whatever that it would be safe to haul to the BRF because it is such a big race and everyone wanted to go. But then when horses did get sick there, it kind of hit people that it really is a big deal and that even though they might take precautions, its not always enough. That's why people are getting more upset over the R4R, because now more people might be starting to see that the only way to put an end to it is to not haul, and when they already entered for it thinking it would have blown over by now, they aren't being given the option to back out and get any sort of refund. | |
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Location: stalking Gail... | cheryl makofka - 2014-04-30 11:31 AM I don't have a horse in this fight, but I don't know how people can blame the producer, it costs a lot of money to put on a high caliber show, years of planning, money in advertising, programs, the commitment of help, etc. it is not that simple to cancel, refund, or schedule a different date. People need to take ownership of your own actions. Anytime I enter an event, I know there is a chance I may not be able to attend, it could be horse issues, family, truck, my own health, etc. once I write the check, I know that money is gone whether or not I attend, the money is out of my account. There is no guarantee that an individual will make money, so if you cannot afford to pay the fee and forfeit, then maybe you shouldn't be barrel racing. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to attend, if people are concerned stay home and quit worrying about what other people are doing.
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| Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 3:36 PM svincent - 2014-04-29 4:30 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 4:15 PM Again, we got this stopped in the 5 western states effected in 2011 rather quickly because everyone stayed HOME as soon as the outbreak was evident and producers cancelled/postponed their events. We got it stopped, and 6 weeks from the first it started we were all back to racing and showing safely. I find it incredably IRRISPONSABLE for people to keep hauling and producers holding their shows and not allowing refunds or vet outs. Shame on them! At the very least, they should move their show date and roll those entries to the postponed date. If the horse industry cant monitor themselves and be responsable, the govt. will do it for us and many many more horses are at risk that is needless. Ditto. There were some BIG races rescheduled. It makes it even a more compounded problem that many horses went straight from BRF to the BBR without much chance to show any symptoms (if they were going to be symtomatic at all ). So now, there've been TWO huge races that have been cross-contaminated. And people are STILL talking about hauling out to a race? Entry fees be ****ed - it'd cost a lot more to have that much vet care or God forbid you had to replace a horse. And also, not all owners are as honest as BarrelsandBabies - if for no other reason than fear of judgment from other riders. I'm glad I don't have to make these choices, because I'm pregnant and can't run anyways. But in 2011, I sure did make these choices and I stayed home and ate the few entry fees that weren't refunded, and went to the rescheduled races that I could make later that summer.
Everyone seems to forget that putting on events is a business. If you don't want to go - don't go - but all this name calling (not this poster, on the whole thread) is ridiculous IMO.
People are running businesses, not running for a ribbon. Event producers are thousands into their events by the time this type of thing rolls around. I would say yes, if they can reschedule, for sure, if they don't, they don't.
You are trying to tie their hands like BHW Occupiers ( ;) ) to get them to do what you think is right. I would venture to say that many of them lost money the last time this thing went down and they can't afford to do that again.
Also, your horse can get anything, at any time, every time you travel. And there are a TON of people that are still not on the internet or don't spend hours reading BHW or FB. We have no confirmed cases in Colo. for example and races are going on, who knows if you are next to someone that came from somewhere else, that's the same threat you take every time you sit by someone on an airplaine. How do you know if they are carrying ebola?
I think some of you - no offense - tend to go bat shiz crazy over fear and think everyone needs to get in line behind you. I'm not at the same level as some of you, but I"m not about to judge someone for going, it's their horse. | |
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| NJJ - 2014-04-30 10:50 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 11:43 AM Frenchie - 2014-04-30 11:32 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 11:26 AM Frenchie - 2014-04-30 11:14 AM Horse-racin - 2014-04-30 11:02 AM Just to be clear --- should we stay home from local jackpots that ARE NOT overnight stalled races -races that we just haul in, run and leave? I completely understand about hauling and stalling for several days but want to be clear on the local jackpots. Talk to YOUR vet or a state vet. Don't take social media advice on things of this magnitude. I posted a link to the UC Davis webinar last night and it had some very, very good information that was backed by strong scientific data. Don't assume someone on FB or BHW knows better.
I am all for bio security and we have made some choices including staying home from BRF and the R4R. I am not pointing fingers at those who went, its their choice and for the VAST majority it seems a safe choice.
This is beside the topics of the above paragraphs and I won't be a poplular statement but there certainly wasn't his outrage before the BRF. The virus was just as prevalent then, the timeline if anything was more suspect at that point. Now fewer people have less money on the line and there is a massive outcry to cancel or not go. Lets be fair here, everything stayed civil at that time. Like it or not we ALL have a dog in the fight with all these events and what could come of them. Just because your entry check isn't sitting at RHR don't think others aren't invested financially, emotionally in this deal. Again, not pointing at any certain post and I've pulled horses from both events, just a little frustrated that a huge event earlier didn't get near this level heat and now that its a smaller crowd involved in the current debated event the convo has gotten so hot. Do I agree that maybe postponement would be best ? YOU BET I DO. But I don't agree with people who were ok with hauling when the case suited them later going public against those who are looking at doing exactly the same thing. Just asking everyone to remember these decisions aren't easy, info, even from vets is conflicting and their are a million different viewpoints.
Possibly its just being touchy on it after so much frustration. Just asking everyone to look at the big picture, be careful and keep in mind everyone is invested in different things in different areas so please, voice opinions in a way that doesn't add to this stress.
Basically just asking people to keep in mind that not being entered in an event (this weekends or others) makes it much easier to say cancel, don't go, postpone but there are those who DO have to make that choice and it will be a difficult one so keep that in mind.
Lost money.
They have a purse and they have put a certain amount of money as being available, if they refund it all, they have nothing to pay those that did show.
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Location: Texas! | I'm sure this has been answered on here but how long after being at the bonus race should you be concerned about your own horse showing symptoms? I know they say at 30 days past last confirmed case but that doesn't make much sense to me. There should be an incubation period from exposure at Lincoln correct? | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I can totally see how it's hard for producers to cancel events under these circumstances. It's costly as hell. That, plus they can come up with a lot of remarks that are true that support going ahead with the show. In the case of the R4R, though, I don't understand, because they have an alternate weekend set aside in case this event needed to be rescheduled. In fact, I would say that if they move it back, the turnout will probably be a lot better, so they would make more as well.
It almost seems to be just plain stubbornness to me at this point. | |
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| smiley - 2014-04-30 12:44 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 3:36 PM svincent - 2014-04-29 4:30 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 4:15 PM Again, we got this stopped in the 5 western states effected in 2011 rather quickly because everyone stayed HOME as soon as the outbreak was evident and producers cancelled/postponed their events. We got it stopped, and 6 weeks from the first it started we were all back to racing and showing safely. I find it incredably IRRISPONSABLE for people to keep hauling and producers holding their shows and not allowing refunds or vet outs. Shame on them! At the very least, they should move their show date and roll those entries to the postponed date. If the horse industry cant monitor themselves and be responsable, the govt. will do it for us and many many more horses are at risk that is needless. Ditto. There were some BIG races rescheduled. It makes it even a more compounded problem that many horses went straight from BRF to the BBR without much chance to show any symptoms (if they were going to be symtomatic at all ). So now, there've been TWO huge races that have been cross-contaminated. And people are STILL talking about hauling out to a race? Entry fees be ****ed - it'd cost a lot more to have that much vet care or God forbid you had to replace a horse. And also, not all owners are as honest as BarrelsandBabies - if for no other reason than fear of judgment from other riders. I'm glad I don't have to make these choices, because I'm pregnant and can't run anyways. But in 2011, I sure did make these choices and I stayed home and ate the few entry fees that weren't refunded, and went to the rescheduled races that I could make later that summer.
People are running businesses, not running for a ribbon. Event producers are thousands into their events by the time this type of thing rolls around. I would say yes, if they can reschedule, for sure, if they don't, they don't.
You are trying to tie their hands like BHW Occupiers ( ;) ) to get them to do what you think is right. I would venture to say that many of them lost money the last time this thing went down and they can't afford to do that again.
Also, your horse can get anything, at any time, every time you travel. And there are a TON of people that are still not on the internet or don't spend hours reading BHW or FB. We have no confirmed cases in Colo. for example and races are going on, who knows if you are next to someone that came from somewhere else, that's the same threat you take every time you sit by someone on an airplaine. How do you know if they are carrying ebola?
I think some of you - no offense - tend to go bat shiz crazy over fear and think everyone needs to get in line behind you. I'm not at the same level as some of you, but I"m not about to judge someone for going, it's their horse.
Very blunt. But I kind of like it!
I'm not pointing fingers at produceres or those who go/don't go. Its your call to make those decisions. We can look at safety of BRF vs these upcoming events til we are blue in the face. Whether its in a hot zone with no cases for an extended period or an event where infected horses may be we all made and will make choices. I'm not a vet or researcher, just asking that we use some common sense and not throw gas on the fire by telling others what they should do or should have done. We lost hundreds of dollars on two of these events, others will lose far more and a unfortunate few lost good horses. Please just take a hard look at what you type before you post. Whether its $61000 or whatever was at BRF or $1500 at Red Horse, or even a $5 jackpot the question is always the same, Do I and my vet feel safe?
If you choose yes then fine, if you choose no then fine but don't choose its ok in your case but not in others.
This wouldn't be so frustrating if we weren't all so invested financially, personally and emotionally. I won't go to Red Horse and didn't go to BRF but you can bet I cheered on my friends who did and will sure do so again. God bless the producers who are dealing with this. With all the science and unknowns out there they must be stealing their horses ulcerguard just to get through the day.
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Location: Soon to be outta here:) | cheryl makofka - 2014-04-30 12:31 PM
I don't have a horse in this fight, but I don't know how people can blame the producer, it costs a lot of money to put on a high caliber show, years of planning, money in advertising, programs, the commitment of help, etc. it is not that simple to cancel, refund, or schedule a different date.
People need to take ownership of your own actions.
Anytime I enter an event, I know there is a chance I may not be able to attend, it could be horse issues, family, truck, my own health, etc. once I write the check, I know that money is gone whether or not I attend, the money is out of my account.
There is no guarantee that an individual will make money, so if you cannot afford to pay the fee and forfeit, then maybe you shouldn't be barrel racing.
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head to attend, if people are concerned stay home and quit worrying about what other people are doing.
I agree....If you cant afford to just pay the fee you shouldn't be running.
I go to so many races where I knock or just don't place...and that entry fee money isn't a big deal. So this should be the same way.
At the very least, look on the positive side and think about all the gas money you can save.
The only reason im worried about what other people are doing is that in the long run it COULD affect my season a great deal. Even though im staying at home and not hauling anywhere, if this keeps happening, this could go on for more than another month. And then I wont be running until July. So it maybe doesn't directly affect my horses right now, but if some people are hauling while im staying home the same thing that happened this last weekend can happen again. The people who stayed home will be given the okay to run again, and go out, and then they might come in contact with a horse who didn't stay home and is carrying EHV around. So then the whole cycle starts again.
So I do care what other people are doing because in the long run, it could very much affect me and my horses.
Of course this is a worse case scenario. But I don't have money to just drop on a huge vet bill or on buying a new barrel horse because mine gets sick.
Its kinda like driving, I can make sure im doing everything right and being safe, but if all the other people on the road aren't too, theres a good chance theres going to be an accident. That's why we encourage everyone to be careful and do things right. The same applies here. You have to watch out for your own horses, but also for others...theres just as much responsibility that comes with being a horse owner as there is with driving a car. You look out for yourself, but also for others. | |
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Location: PNW | smiley - 2014-04-30 12:49 PM
NJJ - 2014-04-30 10:50 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 11:43 AM Frenchie - 2014-04-30 11:32 AM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 11:26 AM Frenchie - 2014-04-30 11:14 AM Horse-racin - 2014-04-30 11:02 AM  Just to be clear --- should we stay home from local  jackpots that ARE NOT overnight stalled races -races that we just haul in, run and leave?   I completely understand about hauling and stalling for several days but want to be clear on the local jackpots. Talk to YOUR vet or a state vet. Don't take social media advice on things of this magnitude. I posted a link to the UC Davis webinar last night and it had some very, very good information that was backed by strong scientific data. Don't assume someone on FB or BHW knows better. Â
I am all for bio security and we have made some choices including staying home from BRF and the R4R. I am not pointing fingers at those who went, its their choice and for the VAST majority it seems a safe choice.
This is beside the topics of the above paragraphs and I won't be a poplular statement but there certainly wasn't his outrage before the BRF. The virus was just as prevalent then, the timeline if anything was more suspect at that point. Now fewer people have less money on the line and there is a massive outcry to cancel or not go. Lets be fair here, everything stayed civil at that time. Like it or not we ALL have a dog in the fight with all these events and what could come of them. Just because your entry check isn't sitting at RHR don't think others aren't invested financially, emotionally in this deal. Again, not pointing at any certain post and I've pulled horses from both events, just a little frustrated that a huge event earlier didn't get near this level heat and now that its a smaller crowd involved in the current debated event the convo has gotten so hot. Do I agree that maybe postponement would be best ? YOU BET I DO. But I don't agree with people who were ok with hauling when the case suited them later going public against those who are looking at doing exactly the same thing. Just asking everyone to remember these decisions aren't easy, info, even from vets is conflicting and their are a million different viewpoints.Â
Possibly its just being touchy on it after so much frustration. Just asking everyone to look at the big picture, be careful and keep in mind everyone is invested in different things in different areas so please, voice opinions in a way that doesn't add to this stress.
Basically just asking people to keep in mind that not being entered in an event (this weekends or others) makes it much easier to say cancel, don't go, postpone but there are those who DO have to make that choice and it will be a difficult one so keep that in mind.Â
They have a purse and they have put a certain amount of money as being available, if they refund it all, they have nothing to pay those that did show.
That's what I'm thinking anyway.
If they advertise $xxxx.xx added - that means it came from sponsors - contestant entry fees are ON TOP of this amount. Most people are not asking for a 100% refund anyways - they just want a partial refund or reschedule. | |
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Location: North Dakota | smiley - 2014-04-30 12:44 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 3:36 PM svincent - 2014-04-29 4:30 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-04-29 4:15 PM Again, we got this stopped in the 5 western states effected in 2011 rather quickly because everyone stayed HOME as soon as the outbreak was evident and producers cancelled/postponed their events. We got it stopped, and 6 weeks from the first it started we were all back to racing and showing safely. I find it incredably IRRISPONSABLE for people to keep hauling and producers holding their shows and not allowing refunds or vet outs. Shame on them! At the very least, they should move their show date and roll those entries to the postponed date. If the horse industry cant monitor themselves and be responsable, the govt. will do it for us and many many more horses are at risk that is needless. Ditto. There were some BIG races rescheduled. It makes it even a more compounded problem that many horses went straight from BRF to the BBR without much chance to show any symptoms (if they were going to be symtomatic at all ). So now, there've been TWO huge races that have been cross-contaminated. And people are STILL talking about hauling out to a race? Entry fees be ****ed - it'd cost a lot more to have that much vet care or God forbid you had to replace a horse. And also, not all owners are as honest as BarrelsandBabies - if for no other reason than fear of judgment from other riders. I'm glad I don't have to make these choices, because I'm pregnant and can't run anyways. But in 2011, I sure did make these choices and I stayed home and ate the few entry fees that weren't refunded, and went to the rescheduled races that I could make later that summer.
People are running businesses, not running for a ribbon. Event producers are thousands into their events by the time this type of thing rolls around. I would say yes, if they can reschedule, for sure, if they don't, they don't.
You are trying to tie their hands like BHW Occupiers ( ;) ) to get them to do what you think is right. I would venture to say that many of them lost money the last time this thing went down and they can't afford to do that again.
Also, your horse can get anything, at any time, every time you travel. And there are a TON of people that are still not on the internet or don't spend hours reading BHW or FB. We have no confirmed cases in Colo. for example and races are going on, who knows if you are next to someone that came from somewhere else, that's the same threat you take every time you sit by someone on an airplaine. How do you know if they are carrying ebola?
I think some of you - no offense - tend to go bat shiz crazy over fear and think everyone needs to get in line behind you. I'm not at the same level as some of you, but I"m not about to judge someone for going, it's their horse.
I have a business as well that I cannot continue on with until this stuff dies down which will not happen unless people quit hauling. I am losing money every single day I do not have a horse in my barn for training. I cancelled a clinic and had to eat the cost. We all make sacrifices. I do not know the circumstance as to whether or not the event facility can in no way give them a different weekend or what but I think if at all possible postponing it would be the best decision. I know of other producers that postponed their large events so it can be done. I am not saying it is easy! But unless we want this to continue all summer long and spread all over the country we need to make the tough choices and cancel events. I guess we can all say not to worry or make such a big deal out of it until it is our horse that is lying there unable to get up and you are faced with the choice of putting them out of their misery. | |
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Location: North Dakota | HotbearLVR - 2014-04-30 12:55 PM I can totally see how it's hard for producers to cancel events under these circumstances. It's costly as hell. That, plus they can come up with a lot of remarks that are true that support going ahead with the show. In the case of the R4R, though, I don't understand, because they have an alternate weekend set aside in case this event needed to be rescheduled. In fact, I would say that if they move it back, the turnout will probably be a lot better, so they would make more as well.
It almost seems to be just plain stubbornness to me at this point.
I was told they do not have a backup date. | |
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Location: Iowa | FYI- from the Big J Barrel Blast Facebook page
**CONTESTANTS**Please read this VERY CAREFULLY regarding the May 2-4, 2014 Big J Barrel Blast Event**
PLEASE NOTE there have been NO TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS and NO EVENT CANCELATION notices put into effect due to the EHV virus to date by state or local veterinarians in Iowa or surrounding states! ** The event scheduled for this weekend MAY 2-4, 2014 at the NCC in Waterloo will GO ON as SCHEDULED**
All sanctions (WPRA, BBR, BRF, UBRA, NBHA 2,3,4 & 5) remain in place and the added money ($3500.00) will be paid out as planned!
With that said, I have made the decision to offer PARTIAL REFUNDS (FOR A LIMITED TIME FRAME) to those contestants that have made the decision to not attend. Stipulations are as follows
(PLEASE READ VERY CAREFULLY!)
• REQUESTS FOR REFUND – MUST BE PLACED BY NOON (12pm) TOMORROW MAY 1, 2014 via email to [email protected]
• DO NOT ASSUME THAT I RECEIVED YOUR REFUND REQUEST – I WILL SEND A CONFIRMATION EMAIL TO YOU AFTER I HAVE RECEIEVED YOUR EMAIL
• I WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY REFUND REQUESTS AFTER 12PM CENTRAL STANDARD TIME TOMORROW (THURSDAY- MAY 1, 2014) (NO EXCEPTIONS!)
• REFUND AMOUNT WILL BE 60% of your TOTAL ENTRY AMOUNT
(Example – If your total fees were $205, your refund amount would be $123.00)
• REFUNDS WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL NEXT FRIDAY (May 9,2014) IF YOU PAID ONLINE YOUR PARTIAL REFUND WILL BE ISSUED BACK TO YOU ONLINE NEXT FRIDAY.
• IF YOU ARE REQUESTING A REFUND, IF MUST BE FOR YOUR FULL ENTRY (If you entered 2 horses, we will refund 60% of the entry fee on those 2 horses, not one or the other and not on just stalls, etc., “partial” refund of entry is not an option)
• IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS % IS NOT A SUFFICIENT OPTION, CONTESTANTS ARE STILL WELCOME TO SELL SPOTS - SPOTS CAN BE SOLD EACH DAY UNTIL THE 1st HORSE RUNS (All changes must be made at the office prior to the start of the open)
• The pre-entry draw for this event is posted. Anyone who chooses to be issued a refund will still be listed in the draw and stated as a REFUND under time. **Total number of entries and payout at the end of each race will not include those that were issued a refund** Drags will stay in place (Every 5) and we will still big drag every 50. So be aware that you may have scratches in your “set”
I understand that some of you feel that travel is not in the best interest of your animal at this time and that is why I am offering an option that I would not normally put forth. With that said, if you are choosing to NOT travel this weekend due to EHV concerns, please make sure that you continue to use good bio-Security, make sure that your vaccinations are current and that you consult a veterinarian regarding the best options for you, if you stay home, don’t go trail riding, to the horse sale or other “local” equine events.
For those contestants that are traveling to our event this weekend we would like you to know that no other equine events have been held at the NCC since last fall so the facility itself is “clean”. We are taking extra precautions and will have bottles of chlorhexidine available for use at the office for disinfecting at the common wash and water rack areas. (PLEASE USE THEM!) We will also have some additional tarps available for you to hang at your stalls if you are not comfortable with who your stall neighbor is, please bring your own tarps if possible. We ask that each of you are pro-active and practice good bio-security! If you have children that are riding this weekend, please talk to them about not letting horses touch nose to nose and keeping space while warming up to minimize any potential risks. Limit the number of horses in the warm up pen as much as possible to minimize potential risk as well. Thank you for your patience and cooperation.
Sincerely,
Lynde Johnson
Owner, Go For Broke Productions
515-571-4281
[email protected]
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Location: iowa | FYI...Lynde from the Big J race has offered partial refunds for entries to her show. Lets not all freak out and think badly of our producers. They haul their horses along also. Im sure they are just as concerned for their horse's health as we are. | |
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Location: North Dakota | Tyler's mom - 2014-04-30 1:16 PM FYI- from the Big J Barrel Blast Facebook page **CONTESTANTS**Please read this VERY CAREFULLY regarding the May 2-4, 2014 Big J Barrel Blast Event** PLEASE NOTE there have been NO TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS and NO EVENT CANCELATION notices put into effect due to the EHV virus to date by state or local veterinarians in Iowa or surrounding states! ** The event scheduled for this weekend MAY 2-4, 2014 at the NCC in Waterloo will GO ON as SCHEDULED** All sanctions (WPRA, BBR, BRF, UBRA, NBHA 2,3,4 & 5 ) remain in place and the added money ($3500.00 ) will be paid out as planned! With that said, I have made the decision to offer PARTIAL REFUNDS (FOR A LIMITED TIME FRAME ) to those contestants that have made the decision to not attend. Stipulations are as follows (PLEASE READ VERY CAREFULLY! ) • REQUESTS FOR REFUND – MUST BE PLACED BY NOON (12pm ) TOMORROW MAY 1, 2014 via email to [email protected] • DO NOT ASSUME THAT I RECEIVED YOUR REFUND REQUEST – I WILL SEND A CONFIRMATION EMAIL TO YOU AFTER I HAVE RECEIEVED YOUR EMAIL • I WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY REFUND REQUESTS AFTER 12PM CENTRAL STANDARD TIME TOMORROW (THURSDAY- MAY 1, 2014 ) (NO EXCEPTIONS! ) • REFUND AMOUNT WILL BE 60% of your TOTAL ENTRY AMOUNT (Example – If your total fees were $205, your refund amount would be $123.00 ) • REFUNDS WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL NEXT FRIDAY (May 9,2014 ) IF YOU PAID ONLINE YOUR PARTIAL REFUND WILL BE ISSUED BACK TO YOU ONLINE NEXT FRIDAY. • IF YOU ARE REQUESTING A REFUND, IF MUST BE FOR YOUR FULL ENTRY (If you entered 2 horses, we will refund 60% of the entry fee on those 2 horses, not one or the other and not on just stalls, etc., “partial” refund of entry is not an option ) • IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS % IS NOT A SUFFICIENT OPTION, CONTESTANTS ARE STILL WELCOME TO SELL SPOTS - SPOTS CAN BE SOLD EACH DAY UNTIL THE 1st HORSE RUNS (All changes must be made at the office prior to the start of the open ) • The pre-entry draw for this event is posted. Anyone who chooses to be issued a refund will still be listed in the draw and stated as a REFUND under time. **Total number of entries and payout at the end of each race will not include those that were issued a refund** Drags will stay in place (Every 5 ) and we will still big drag every 50. So be aware that you may have scratches in your “set” I understand that some of you feel that travel is not in the best interest of your animal at this time and that is why I am offering an option that I would not normally put forth. With that said, if you are choosing to NOT travel this weekend due to EHV concerns, please make sure that you continue to use good bio-Security, make sure that your vaccinations are current and that you consult a veterinarian regarding the best options for you, if you stay home, don’t go trail riding, to the horse sale or other “local” equine events. For those contestants that are traveling to our event this weekend we would like you to know that no other equine events have been held at the NCC since last fall so the facility itself is “clean”. We are taking extra precautions and will have bottles of chlorhexidine available for use at the office for disinfecting at the common wash and water rack areas. (PLEASE USE THEM! ) We will also have some additional tarps available for you to hang at your stalls if you are not comfortable with who your stall neighbor is, please bring your own tarps if possible. We ask that each of you are pro-active and practice good bio-security! If you have children that are riding this weekend, please talk to them about not letting horses touch nose to nose and keeping space while warming up to minimize any potential risks. Limit the number of horses in the warm up pen as much as possible to minimize potential risk as well. Thank you for your patience and cooperation. Sincerely, Lynde Johnson Owner, Go For Broke Productions 515-571-4281 [email protected] — with Danielle Madden Griggs and Traci Blanchfield.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Tyler's mom - 2014-04-30 1:16 PM FYI- from the Big J Barrel Blast Facebook page **CONTESTANTS**Please read this VERY CAREFULLY regarding the May 2-4, 2014 Big J Barrel Blast Event** PLEASE NOTE there have been NO TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS and NO EVENT CANCELATION notices put into effect due to the EHV virus to date by state or local veterinarians in Iowa or surrounding states! ** The event scheduled for this weekend MAY 2-4, 2014 at the NCC in Waterloo will GO ON as SCHEDULED** All sanctions (WPRA, BBR, BRF, UBRA, NBHA 2,3,4 & 5 ) remain in place and the added money ($3500.00 ) will be paid out as planned! With that said, I have made the decision to offer PARTIAL REFUNDS (FOR A LIMITED TIME FRAME ) to those contestants that have made the decision to not attend. Stipulations are as follows (PLEASE READ VERY CAREFULLY! ) • REQUESTS FOR REFUND – MUST BE PLACED BY NOON (12pm ) TOMORROW MAY 1, 2014 via email to [email protected] • DO NOT ASSUME THAT I RECEIVED YOUR REFUND REQUEST – I WILL SEND A CONFIRMATION EMAIL TO YOU AFTER I HAVE RECEIEVED YOUR EMAIL • I WILL NOT ACCEPT ANY REFUND REQUESTS AFTER 12PM CENTRAL STANDARD TIME TOMORROW (THURSDAY- MAY 1, 2014 ) (NO EXCEPTIONS! ) • REFUND AMOUNT WILL BE 60% of your TOTAL ENTRY AMOUNT (Example – If your total fees were $205, your refund amount would be $123.00 ) • REFUNDS WILL NOT BE ISSUED UNTIL NEXT FRIDAY (May 9,2014 ) IF YOU PAID ONLINE YOUR PARTIAL REFUND WILL BE ISSUED BACK TO YOU ONLINE NEXT FRIDAY. • IF YOU ARE REQUESTING A REFUND, IF MUST BE FOR YOUR FULL ENTRY (If you entered 2 horses, we will refund 60% of the entry fee on those 2 horses, not one or the other and not on just stalls, etc., “partial” refund of entry is not an option ) • IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS % IS NOT A SUFFICIENT OPTION, CONTESTANTS ARE STILL WELCOME TO SELL SPOTS - SPOTS CAN BE SOLD EACH DAY UNTIL THE 1st HORSE RUNS (All changes must be made at the office prior to the start of the open ) • The pre-entry draw for this event is posted. Anyone who chooses to be issued a refund will still be listed in the draw and stated as a REFUND under time. **Total number of entries and payout at the end of each race will not include those that were issued a refund** Drags will stay in place (Every 5 ) and we will still big drag every 50. So be aware that you may have scratches in your “set” I understand that some of you feel that travel is not in the best interest of your animal at this time and that is why I am offering an option that I would not normally put forth. With that said, if you are choosing to NOT travel this weekend due to EHV concerns, please make sure that you continue to use good bio-Security, make sure that your vaccinations are current and that you consult a veterinarian regarding the best options for you, if you stay home, don’t go trail riding, to the horse sale or other “local” equine events. For those contestants that are traveling to our event this weekend we would like you to know that no other equine events have been held at the NCC since last fall so the facility itself is “clean”. We are taking extra precautions and will have bottles of chlorhexidine available for use at the office for disinfecting at the common wash and water rack areas. (PLEASE USE THEM! ) We will also have some additional tarps available for you to hang at your stalls if you are not comfortable with who your stall neighbor is, please bring your own tarps if possible. We ask that each of you are pro-active and practice good bio-security! If you have children that are riding this weekend, please talk to them about not letting horses touch nose to nose and keeping space while warming up to minimize any potential risks. Limit the number of horses in the warm up pen as much as possible to minimize potential risk as well. Thank you for your patience and cooperation. Sincerely, Lynde Johnson Owner, Go For Broke Productions 515-571-4281 [email protected] — with Danielle Madden Griggs and Traci Blanchfield.
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| I just got an email from the producer that she would be posting an update to her Facebook shortly. Will someone who has FB copy and post here for those of us without FB? Please? :)
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Location: Iowa | Ashley Gustafson - 2014-04-30 2:52 PM
I just got an email from the producer that she would be posting an update to her Facebook shortly. Will someone who has FB copy and post here for those of us without FB? Please? :)
Which producer? I posted the Big J update, not sure about what anyone else is doing........ | |
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| Sorry! The R4R producer. | |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Those saying it's a business to produce races and rescheduling just cant be done. Give me a break! Are you seriously going to try to tell me the producers in the west are soooooooooooo much smarter to figure out how to do it when we had the outbreak in 2011? EVEN a multi state Championship Finals w/ 20K added changed their date's and they had been on that same weekend since their inception!! | |
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