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Location: In The Land of Cotton | CanCan - 2016-05-12 12:57 PM Today's young adults will no more take advantage of free higher education than they do free public education.
True - usually anything "free" doesnt mean jack to those taking advantage of it. The percentage of people who succeed getting anything "free" isn't a high number, especially when it comes to education. |
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Location: North Texas | 3canstorun - 2016-05-12 12:35 PM
CanCan - 2016-05-12 12:57 PM Â Today's young adults will no more take advantage of free higher education than they do free public education.Â
True - usually anything "free" doesnt mean jack to those taking advantage of it.  The percentage of people who succeed getting anything "free" isn't a high number, especially  when it comes to education. Â
I have always experienced a sense of accomplishment when I have had to work to attain something...................The same goes for education. |
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| foundation horse - 2016-05-12 1:56 PM
3canstorun - 2016-05-12 12:35 PM
CanCan - 2016-05-12 12:57 PM Â Today's young adults will no more take advantage of free higher education than they do free public education.Â
True - usually anything "free" doesnt mean jack to those taking advantage of it.  The percentage of people who succeed getting anything "free" isn't a high number, especially  when it comes to education. Â
I have always experienced a sense of accomplishment when I have had to work to attain something...................The same goes for education.
I would like to first state I am not for free education, but for an easier access to education i.e. loans being down to 1% or lower tuition.
I feel very very accomplished and I worked my ass off to get my education, however my parents did pay for my education. Yet, I know people who work and pay for their education who don't take college seriously and fail out. Again, I will restate no I am not for free education and I do understand more people would take advantage of it. But, college should not be as expensive as it is and I know without my parents' help I would be struggling and not be able to fulfill my goals. |
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Location: Moving soon..... | In Texas there are options for getting help with college called Texas Promise Fund. When my daughter was 7, there was a plan in place called Texas Guaranteed Tuition Fund. We enrolled and paid $21,500 for a 4 year state college. She will graduate from Texas A&M in August and our total out of pocket for 4 years was about $2500. That was mainly for sports pass, parking, rec fee and the medical clinic fee. There are options out there to help with college tuition.
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Location: SE Louisiana | I've had enough of this!!!
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Location: Kansas | .....and if that kitty was all oh say "black" you'd be considered a racist. 
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| This has been an interesting thread. Started on May 2 before Donald was the only one left in the race. About 2/3 of the way through Donald met with the party leaders, and as Neal Cavuto said 'I think I just saw pigs fly'. He was not my first choice but he's growing on me because after 4 years of BHO this country desperately needs a competent CEO.
After all, Donald doesn't say anything the politicians don't say, he's just willing to say it in an open setting where everyone can hear instead of behind closed doors. Dems are casting stones about the Republican conflicts. And I have to admit, they are better than the right at 'falling in line'. The Clintons and the Obamas detest each other, but they hold their noses and get it done. In fact I'm convinced one of the main reasons Hillary had the personal server is she didn't want her boss to easily see what she was saying/doing. And Freedom of Information act avoidance was another reason.
When this started and the Donald entered the race, I was sure the first gaff about Hispanic 'rapist' would do him in...what was that last summer? Then there was another and another and here we are less than 6 months from the election and I really think he might pull this off.
It truly is a revolution and an election season that most of us have never seen in our lifetimes. Let's keep the thread going until November!
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Location: Florida | No matter which one wins, it will be a turning point in political history. A woman vs a novice politician, who would've thunk. |
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| LP22654 - 2016-05-02 1:23 PM Could someone please explain to me why there is so many people opposing him? Explain with reasons why.
His name calling bugs me. It seems so childish and it reminds me of that quote about being too weak to challenge your opponent any other way. Put all that aside and I am one of the believers that it was an ego trip for him that he can't back out of now.
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Location: Missouri | Vickie - 2016-05-16 6:15 AM
No matter which one wins, it will be a turning point in political history. A woman vs a novice politician, who would've thunk.Â
As one of my Fb friends put it, our choices are between 'a criminal and an orange guy with bad hair.' I found her description of trump rather amusing... |
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Location: North Texas | Dirt Dobber - 2016-05-16 8:10 PM
LP22654 - 2016-05-02 1:23 PM Could someone please explain to me why there is so many people opposing him? Explain with reasons why.
His name calling bugs me. Â It seems so childish and it reminds me of that quote about being too weak to challenge your opponent any other way. Put all that aside and I am one of the believers that it was an ego trip for him that he can't back out of now.Â
Name calling is simply politics in its most pure (debased) form. Apparently name calling has been successful for The Donald, since He defeated 16 other candidates, did he not?
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | MOGirl07 - 2016-05-16 10:07 PM Vickie - 2016-05-16 6:15 AM No matter which one wins, it will be a turning point in political history. A woman vs a novice politician, who would've thunk. As one of my Fb friends put it, our choices are between 'a criminal and an orange guy with bad hair.' I found her description of trump rather amusing...
I guess I'll close my eyes and vote for the Oompa Loompa.  |
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Location: North Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-05-17 8:55 AM
MOGirl07 - 2016-05-16 10:07 PM Vickie - 2016-05-16 6:15 AM No matter which one wins, it will be a turning point in political history. A woman vs a novice politician, who would've thunk. As one of my Fb friends put it, our choices are between 'a criminal and an orange guy with bad hair.' I found her description of trump rather amusing...
As long as The Oompa Loompa is not Hillary/Bernie and actually performs as promised, I agree with you! |
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| foundation horse - 2016-05-17 8:53 AM Dirt Dobber - 2016-05-16 8:10 PM LP22654 - 2016-05-02 1:23 PM Could someone please explain to me why there is so many people opposing him? Explain with reasons why. His name calling bugs me. It seems so childish and it reminds me of that quote about being too weak to challenge your opponent any other way. Put all that aside and I am one of the believers that it was an ego trip for him that he can't back out of now.
Name calling is simply politics in its most pure (debased ) form. Apparently name calling has been successful for The Donald, since He defeated 16 other candidates, did he not?
Never noticed the name calling at the silly level Trump is at and wasn't much impressed with the other candidates he beat. There really hasn't been much to the sad bunch. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Folks, whether you like it or not, what we are seeing this year is just the beginning of a long overdue awakening that we have been duped for decades. It's a symptom of something that pre-dates Hillary, Trump, and even Sanders. In fact, one could argue that this scourge leading to the political chaos originated with our U.S. Constitution.
Alexis de Toqueville predicted this nearly 200 years ago in his "Democracy in America", but it goes back even farther. Benjamin Franklin wrote: "When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic. ...". This has become a more widespread realization, and it dovetails into a term that Sarah Palin revived a few years ago, "crony capitalism". These things are all variations on the same basic theme: CORRUPTION.
The kind of corruption I'm talking about transcends political party affiliation. The more brazen political criminals convicted of the most serious offenses are just as likely to have an "R" behind their name as a "D".
Take a look at the recent developments with the Democrat congressman from Philadelphia, Chuka Fattah. His bold, brazen corrupt acts can be googled, if you are interested. This is a man who was elected by 87% of voters in 2014, after his alleged racketeering activities started to emerge. Think about that. This man was an 11 term (22 year) congressman. Guys like him hold the purse strings to $4 TRILLION a year. They ignore vital, urgent needs like Social Security reform, Medicare reform, and our crumbling healthcare system. They don't have to be concerned about ANY of those programs, because they have lucrative pensions, Cadillac health insurance, and 7 figure jobs awaiting them in the private sector.
To be fair and balanced, look at Duke Cunningham,(R). He accepted millions in bribes. The guy was an All American hero and the only fighter ace from the Vietnam War. He was a so-called conservative darling.....until he was indicted and copped a deal, in exchange for being a rat. He served 10 years in prison.
More recently, take a look at Mark Sanford, R-South Carolina. He should have served time for his lies and crimes while governor, but he escaped Justice. The guy basically went AWOL from the job, so he sould run off on a sordid rendezvous with his South American concubine....on taxpayer dollars. He tried to say he was off on a hike in the mountains. South Carolina punished him by accepting his resignation, and then elected him to congress.
These are the people running our lives and making decisions that will effect our kids and grandkids.
This is why we are 19 Trillion in debt, and this is why we are declining in almost every metric. We are electing clever people who SOUND like they have a plan and SOUND like they care.....but they only care about one thing......the sweet deal.
This is why a guy like Trump can emerge and break all the unwritten rules of politics, and blow 16 other candidates out of the water handily. People are catching on and the number of pis$ed off citizens is rising exponentially.
The bigger question is what can be done, in addition to sending a message by electing a guy like Trump? I think there needs to be a huge ground swell pushing for term limits. We need to starve the beast. |
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| We need term limits! Get rid of the career politicians! I'm tiried of them living like kings on our dollars while we have to scrape the barrel to survive. |
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Location: Kansas | As foreign cultures invade our country by the millions, you'll see the picture change entirely over the years. London, England now has a Muslim mayor. How far are we from a Hispanic dominated Congress, Senate and President. After that it will never change. It can't. |
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| We need term limits for sure, but I think we have a better chance of them voting themselves a raise instead of voting themselves out of a job with the best perks known to mankind. If any person ran for office on the platform of "term limits" would they get any money from the Democratic party or Republican party to run? IMO, it would have to be an independently wealthy person to have the funds to run. If they did get elected, it would be a BIG job to convince that many people to vote term limits. I guess it would be our job to vote everyone out in election after election until we got the people in there to vote for term limits.
There is a guy from Pennsylvania (I think?) who is a term limit person, but I don't know if he ran on that platform.
At this point, I don't think Trump has mentioned term limits, but maybe he has?
I have read when the founders were setting up the government it was such a sacrifice to leave personal business and family to go to DC (not necessarily DC at that time) that they didn't see term limits necessary. I'm guess the federal government didn't fly them back and forth free of charge every weekend!
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Location: So. California | euchee - 2016-05-17 6:23 PM We need term limits! Get rid of the career politicians! I'm tiried of them living like kings on our dollars while we have to scrape the barrel to survive.
Term limits do not work, career politicians just move from senate to house, to other elected positions, to lobby positions...
What we need is no golden retirement/pension plan... Once they are out of office, they join the SS rolls just like every other none goverment employee... In fact, all government workers should go onto SS... cities, counties, states are struggling (bankrupt) trying to meet the promised retirement plans... when their annual budget is 50% for retired employees, it becomes a huge financial burden and cannot be substained for long.
If goverment retirement plans were discontinued, you'd see a completely revamped SS system! |
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