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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jake16 - 2020-03-18 3:33 PM
vjls - 2020-03-18 11:46 AM
362 million people in us
total case 4200 how in the hell do these numbers work for fear mongering and mass hysteria
how? this is from cdc not so cnn or fox
esting for the virus that causes COVID-19.
COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*
Total cases: 4,226
Total deaths: 75
Jurisdictions reporting cases: 53 (49 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure*†
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure
Travel-related 229
Close contact 245
Under investigation 3,752
Total cases 4,226
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
† CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide.
it is stated that ohio is not testing everyone,they are saying if you have the symtoms,stay home,if you get worsened symtoms,come to ER,so as far as the numbers go,they are not doing much testing,we have I THINK 88 cases,from 2 year old,up.they are saving testing for those that are hospitalized, and health care workers.
This is why we have NO idea how much it has spread or how many will be affected or how deadly it will end up being ...... Not enough tests! | |
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Location: My happy place | OregonBR - 2020-03-18 4:10 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 11:03 AM
Those are certainly "skewed FACTS ...... you are comparing SIXTEEN months of H1N1 (April 2009 - August 2010) to less than TWO months of the first reported case in the US ...... Additionally, the US is just in the beginning of the spread across the states. Will it end up being more deadly .... who knows ..... I don't...you don't .... Trump doesn't ..... because this is a brand new strain with almost no statistics until a few months ago .... Hopefully, we are doing the best to keep from spreading it!
Edited to add ...... "maybe" we learned from past experiences ....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
OK lets extrapolate that information. We are 2 months into the CoVid 19 outbreak. If we have 14 more months of this, that is 97 deaths x 7 (assuming that we have a total outbreak time span of 16 months. 14 more to go divided by 2.) = 679 total US deaths. Compared to 12,000+ deaths from H1N1.
The website I watch says 125 deaths as of today and 8019 total cases in the US. Now I don't know how many it takes to worry, but I do think if your 90+ and you die you should not be counted in the number. IMO the flu or a common cold could have got you to. I'm in the high risk area myself. I'm more concerned that doctors in there 50's & 60's in other countries are dying myself. Real easy to second guess if your not on the front lines. I pray for these people daily. I sure want them to have what they need to do their jobs. | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | NJJ - 2020-03-18 1:35 PM
OregonBR - 2020-03-18 3:10 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 11:03 AM
Those are certainly "skewed FACTS ...... you are comparing SIXTEEN months of H1N1 (April 2009 - August 2010) to less than TWO months of the first reported case in the US ...... Additionally, the US is just in the beginning of the spread across the states. Will it end up being more deadly .... who knows ..... I don't...you don't .... Trump doesn't ..... because this is a brand new strain with almost no statistics until a few months ago .... Hopefully, we are doing the best to keep from spreading it!
Edited to add ...... "maybe" we learned from past experiences ....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
OK lets extrapolate that information. We are 2 months into the CoVid 19 outbreak. If we have 14 more months of this, that is 97 deaths x 7 (assuming that we have a total outbreak time span of 16 months. 14 more to go divided by 2.) = 679 total US deaths. Compared to 12,000+ deaths from H1N1.
You TOTALLY missed the point (what a surprise) .... we are ONLY TWO months into the start of this disease.....YOU, nor I, have NO idea how quickly it will spread or how deadly it will end up being .... You need to just look at the mortality rate of Italy to see that we are just getting ahead of the spread ..... and, by the way, since you copied and posted that meme..... the death rate is now 127 .... and it is now in all 50 states ....
I didn't miss your point. But you will move the goal post no matter what I hit. So multiply the deaths by another 10 times. That's still only 6790. There wasn't any country shut down. No mass hysteria when 12,000+ people died. | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Palopony - 2020-03-18 1:42 PM
OregonBR - 2020-03-18 4:10 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 11:03 AM
Those are certainly "skewed FACTS ...... you are comparing SIXTEEN months of H1N1 (April 2009 - August 2010) to less than TWO months of the first reported case in the US ...... Additionally, the US is just in the beginning of the spread across the states. Will it end up being more deadly .... who knows ..... I don't...you don't .... Trump doesn't ..... because this is a brand new strain with almost no statistics until a few months ago .... Hopefully, we are doing the best to keep from spreading it!
Edited to add ...... "maybe" we learned from past experiences ....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
OK lets extrapolate that information. We are 2 months into the CoVid 19 outbreak. If we have 14 more months of this, that is 97 deaths x 7 (assuming that we have a total outbreak time span of 16 months. 14 more to go divided by 2.) = 679 total US deaths. Compared to 12,000+ deaths from H1N1.
The website I watch says 125 deaths as of today and 8019 total cases in the US.
Now I don't know how many it takes to worry, but I do think if your 90+ and you die you should not be counted in the number. IMO the flu or a common cold could have got you to. I'm in the high risk area myself.
I'm more concerned that doctors in there 50's & 60's in other countries are dying myself. Real easy to second guess if your not on the front lines. I pray for these people daily. I sure want them to have what they need to do their jobs.
I've got the CDC website open right now. Because I know someone would call me out. It says 97. But you certainly missed my point. Why is the press and everyone else who hates President Trump dumping the blame on him??? He's doing more than any other president has done for the same or more threat to our health. The press lies about everything. They've harrassed and lied about everything since before he was elected. Cases in U.S.- Total cases: 7,038
- Total deaths: 97
- Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date. * Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date. † CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | OregonBR - 2020-03-18 3:48 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 1:35 PM
OregonBR - 2020-03-18 3:10 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 11:03 AM
Those are certainly "skewed FACTS ...... you are comparing SIXTEEN months of H1N1 (April 2009 - August 2010) to less than TWO months of the first reported case in the US ...... Additionally, the US is just in the beginning of the spread across the states. Will it end up being more deadly .... who knows ..... I don't...you don't .... Trump doesn't ..... because this is a brand new strain with almost no statistics until a few months ago .... Hopefully, we are doing the best to keep from spreading it!
Edited to add ...... "maybe" we learned from past experiences ....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
OK lets extrapolate that information. We are 2 months into the CoVid 19 outbreak. If we have 14 more months of this, that is 97 deaths x 7 (assuming that we have a total outbreak time span of 16 months. 14 more to go divided by 2.) = 679 total US deaths. Compared to 12,000+ deaths from H1N1.
You TOTALLY missed the point (what a surprise) .... we are ONLY TWO months into the start of this disease.....YOU, nor I, have NO idea how quickly it will spread or how deadly it will end up being .... You need to just look at the mortality rate of Italy to see that we are just getting ahead of the spread ..... and, by the way, since you copied and posted that meme..... the death rate is now 127 .... and it is now in all 50 states ....
I didn't miss your point. But you will move the goal post no matter what I hit. So multiply the deaths by another 10 times. That's still only 6790. There wasn't any country shut down. No mass hysteria when 12,000+ people died.
The point is the "UNKNOWN" of this disease..... I don't know about you ...... but I, personally, think that this country should be more safe than SORRY ...... I guess if we did nothing and it killed more than H1N1 or the flu .... we should just say "Oh, well" ...... | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | Oh Lord NJJ. You do hate to lose an argument. The problem is people aren't getting facts. I listened to an interview with a doctor with no axe to grind who said the cruise ship example was a perfect scenario to judge the death rate from. There were several thousand people. No new people added and no people left the group. It was a contained environment. The final toll was a death rate of .85% (that's less than 1%) deaths from all the thousands of people exposed and only a small percentage of people exposed got symptoms. They were on that ship for a month. The left says Trump fired the pandemic team. No he didn't. He consolidated it with 2 other governmental agencies. He was trying to save us money by cutting down on the redundant 4615465165463546351235 agencies that the pro government dems love. They just cherry pick the things they want the public to "know" even if they are lying. And when someone tries to show them proof, they bury their heads to avoid seeing it.  The White House. (Joshua Roberts/Reuters)March 16, 2020 at 10:37 a.m. PDT Tim Morrison is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council. President Trump gets his share of criticism — some warranted, much not. But recently the president’s critics have chosen curious ground to question his response to the coronavirus outbreak since it began spreading from Wuhan, China, in December. It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post, that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious. Now, I’m not naive. This is Washington. It’s an election year. Officials out of power want back into power after November. But the middle of a worldwide health emergency is not the time to be making tendentious accusations. It is true that the Trump administration has seen fit to shrink the NSC staff. But the bloat that occurred under the previous administration clearly needed a correction. Defense Secretary Robert Gates, congressional oversight committees and members of the Obama administration itself all agreed the NSC was too large and too operationally focused (a departure from its traditional role coordinating executive branch activity). As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017. One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled. Trump may think he can sugarcoat coronavirus, but media critic Erik Wemple says it is time for the government to speak with one clear voice about public health. (Video: Erik Wemple/Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post) The reduction of force in the NSC has continued since I departed the White House. But it has left the biodefense staff unaffected — perhaps a recognition of the importance of that mission to the president, who, after all, in 2018 issued a presidential memorandum to finally create real accountability in the federal government’s expansive biodefense system. The NSC is really the only place in government where there is a staff that ensures the commander in chief gets all the options he needs to make a decision, and then makes sure that decision is actually implemented. I worry that further reductions at the NSC could impair its capabilities, but the current staffing level is fully up to the job. You might ask: Why does all this matter? Won’t it just be a historical footnote? It matters because when people play politics in the middle of a crisis, we are all less safe. We are less safe because public servants are distracted when they are dragged into politics. We’re less safe because the American people have been recklessly scared into doubting the competence of their government to help keep them safe, secure and healthy. And we’re less safe because when we’re focused on political gamesmanship, we’re not paying enough attention to the real issues. For example, we should be united behind ensuring that, in a future congressional appropriations package, U.S. companies are encouraged to return to our shores from China the production of everything from medical face masks and personal protective equipment to vitamin C and penicillin. And we should be united in demanding to know why the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was aware of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan early in December, maybe even November, and didn’t tell the rest of the world, when stopping the deadly spread might have been possible. Just as the United States has fought against fake information aimed at our elections, we should fight back against CCP propagandists. They are not only campaigning against the use of the term “Wuhan virus” (a more geographically accurate description than “Spanish flu” ever was about the 1918 pandemic) but now also promoting the false claim that covid-19 was created by the U.S. Army. Public health officials have pinpointed a wild-animal market in Wuhan as the outbreak’s origin. There are real threats emanating from this pandemic. We need to focus on getting our response right and save the finger-pointing for what comes after. This is the United States — we will get through this. And for the love of God, wash your hands. Coronavirus: What you need to readUpdated March 18, 2020 | |
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Location: OH. IO | NJJ - 2020-03-18 4:38 PM
jake16 - 2020-03-18 3:33 PM
vjls - 2020-03-18 11:46 AM
362 million people in us
total case 4200 how in the hell do these numbers work for fear mongering and mass hysteria
how? this is from cdc not so cnn or fox
esting for the virus that causes COVID-19.
COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*
Total cases: 4,226
Total deaths: 75
Jurisdictions reporting cases: 53 (49 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure*†
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure
Travel-related 229
Close contact 245
Under investigation 3,752
Total cases 4,226
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
† CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide.
it is stated that ohio is not testing everyone,they are saying if you have the symtoms,stay home,if you get worsened symtoms,come to ER,so as far as the numbers go,they are not doing much testing,we have I THINK 88 cases,from 2 year old,up.they are saving testing for those that are hospitalized, and health care workers.
This is why we have NO idea how much it has spread or how many will be affected or how deadly it will end up being ...... Not enough tests!
hey,dont kill the messenger,LMAO,i am not sure of the reasoning,if they have enough or dont have enough tests?who knows,but i just thought i should put that out so people know the statistics sure wont be 100 percent.With that being said,I still think our country is doing a good job with getting the word out on the updates,AND WITH THAT BEING SAID.....I DO NOT WATCH THE NEWS ALL DAY LONG,I DO NOT READ A NEWSPAPER,I AM A VERY BUSY PERSON,AND I LIKE THE OUTDOORS. oh and NJJ, i know you were just pointing out a fact;) yes,NJJ AND I DO GET ALONG,AND WE SHARE AND TALK ABOUT OUR DIFFERENCES,AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE STILL FRIENDS;) | |
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Location: My happy place | Well keep watching the CDC according to the ones I watch it's going to jump quite a bit. We just passed S Koren in cases, not a contest I want to win. I want to know what Germany is doing over 12,000 cases and only 28 deaths. | |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | Bottom line; I don't care what "side" you're on. We need more testing. And we need to flatten the curve. I think we can all agree on that?! | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | OregonBR - 2020-03-18 3:53 PM Palopony - 2020-03-18 1:42 PM OregonBR - 2020-03-18 4:10 PM NJJ - 2020-03-18 11:03 AM Those are certainly "skewed FACTS ...... you are comparing SIXTEEN months of H1N1 (April 2009 - August 2010) to less than TWO months of the first reported case in the US ...... Additionally, the US is just in the beginning of the spread across the states. Will it end up being more deadly .... who knows ..... I don't...you don't .... Trump doesn't ..... because this is a brand new strain with almost no statistics until a few months ago .... Hopefully, we are doing the best to keep from spreading it! Edited to add ...... "maybe" we learned from past experiences .... https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ OK lets extrapolate that information. We are 2 months into the CoVid 19 outbreak. If we have 14 more months of this, that is 97 deaths x 7 (assuming that we have a total outbreak time span of 16 months. 14 more to go divided by 2.) = 679 total US deaths. Compared to 12,000+ deaths from H1N1. The website I watch says 125 deaths as of today and 8019 total cases in the US. Now I don't know how many it takes to worry, but I do think if your 90+ and you die you should not be counted in the number. IMO the flu or a common cold could have got you to. I'm in the high risk area myself. I'm more concerned that doctors in there 50's & 60's in other countries are dying myself. Real easy to second guess if your not on the front lines. I pray for these people daily. I sure want them to have what they need to do their jobs. I've got the CDC website open right now. Because I know someone would call me out. It says 97. But you certainly missed my point. Why is the press and everyone else who hates President Trump dumping the blame on him??? He's doing more than any other president has done for the same or more threat to our health. The press lies about everything. They've harrassed and lied about everything since before he was elected. - Total cases: 7,038
- Total deaths: 97
- Jurisdictions reporting cases: 54 (50 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date. * Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date. † CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide. Numbers close out at 4 p.m. the day before reporting.
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | So the PHUCK what? That's the most reliable information available. I don't trust your website any more than you trust anything anyone else says. So there we are. | |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | Palopony - 2020-03-18 3:42 PM
OregonBR - 2020-03-18 4:10 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 11:03 AM
Those are certainly "skewed FACTS ...... you are comparing SIXTEEN months of H1N1 (April 2009 - August 2010) to less than TWO months of the first reported case in the US ...... Additionally, the US is just in the beginning of the spread across the states. Will it end up being more deadly .... who knows ..... I don't...you don't .... Trump doesn't ..... because this is a brand new strain with almost no statistics until a few months ago .... Hopefully, we are doing the best to keep from spreading it!
Edited to add ...... "maybe" we learned from past experiences ....
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
OK lets extrapolate that information. We are 2 months into the CoVid 19 outbreak. If we have 14 more months of this, that is 97 deaths x 7 (assuming that we have a total outbreak time span of 16 months. 14 more to go divided by 2.) = 679 total US deaths. Compared to 12,000+ deaths from H1N1.
The website I watch says 125 deaths as of today and 8019 total cases in the US.
Now I don't know how many it takes to worry, but I do think if your 90+ and you die you should not be counted in the number. IMO the flu or a common cold could have got you to. I'm in the high risk area myself.
I'm more concerned that doctors in there 50's & 60's in other countries are dying myself. Real easy to second guess if your not on the front lines. I pray for these people daily. I sure want them to have what they need to do their jobs.
Before extrapolating information it might be smart to look at how the virus is spreading expotentially. Simply spreading the math from two months of statistics over an additional 14 month is completely faulty asumption. Might want to do some research on what the experts are calculating before throwing out facts. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jake16 - 2020-03-18 4:14 PM
NJJ - 2020-03-18 4:38 PM
jake16 - 2020-03-18 3:33 PM
vjls - 2020-03-18 11:46 AM
362 million people in us
total case 4200 how in the hell do these numbers work for fear mongering and mass hysteria
how? this is from cdc not so cnn or fox
esting for the virus that causes COVID-19.
COVID-19: U.S. at a Glance*
Total cases: 4,226
Total deaths: 75
Jurisdictions reporting cases: 53 (49 states, District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, and US Virgin Islands)
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure*†
Cases of COVID-19 Reported in the US, by Source of Exposure
Travel-related 229
Close contact 245
Under investigation 3,752
Total cases 4,226
* Data include both confirmed and presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 reported to CDC or tested at CDC since January 21, 2020, with the exception of testing results for persons repatriated to the United States from Wuhan, China and Japan. State and local public health departments are now testing and publicly reporting their cases. In the event of a discrepancy between CDC cases and cases reported by state and local public health officials, data reported by states should be considered the most up to date.
† CDC is no longer reporting the number of persons under investigation (PUIs) that have been tested, as well as PUIs that have tested negative. Now that states are testing and reporting their own results, CDC’s numbers are not representative of all testing being done nationwide.
it is stated that ohio is not testing everyone,they are saying if you have the symtoms,stay home,if you get worsened symtoms,come to ER,so as far as the numbers go,they are not doing much testing,we have I THINK 88 cases,from 2 year old,up.they are saving testing for those that are hospitalized, and health care workers.
This is why we have NO idea how much it has spread or how many will be affected or how deadly it will end up being ...... Not enough tests!
hey,dont kill the messenger,LMAO,i am not sure of the reasoning,if they have enough or dont have enough tests?who knows,but i just thought i should put that out so people know the statistics sure wont be 100 percent.With that being said,I still think our country is doing a good job with getting the word out on the updates,AND WITH THAT BEING SAID.....I DO NOT WATCH THE NEWS ALL DAY LONG,I DO NOT READ A NEWSPAPER,I AM A VERY BUSY PERSON,AND I LIKE THE OUTDOORS.oh and NJJ, i know you were just pointing out a fact;) yes,NJJ AND I DO GET ALONG,AND WE SHARE AND TALK ABOUT OUR DIFFERENCES,AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE STILL FRIENDS;)
LOL ..... I was actually agreeing with you ..... we don't have the facts because we don't have to tests ..... Yep....we can disagree but still are friends....  | |
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| My husband had a scheduled drs appointment with our primary care dr today that was made over 4 months ago, for some skin cancer spots he needed to be looked at and froze off. They actually called him this morning and asked if he would Skype with the dr instead of coming in. He said he really needed him to look at these spots . They allowed him to come in but he got screened on his way inside the clinic. He said there was hardly anyone in the waiting room. Guess that's a good thing. On a side note... my hubby was denied service today at McDonald's.. hes a truck driver and sometimes gets limited on what he can grab to eat, depending on where he ends up and mandatory breaks they have to take. All dining rooms are closed, drive thru only.. well he drives an 18 wheeler... he walked up to the speaker and asked if they could serve him even though he wasnt in a vehicle he was told no and to get out of the drive thru... he asked if they could give him the food at the door then. They said no. So he just had to wait it out. He finally got to another town and went to whataburger... they told him theyd gladly serve him a meal, thanked him for his services and delivered his food to him at his truck. Thank you WHATABURGER!!! | |
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Location: My happy place | I sure hate to hear that about McDonalds after all the billions they have sold. I would sure boycott McDonald's if I went there even before I was staying home. Thank your husband the truck driver. Copied from Business Insider.today. - McDonald's is lobbying the Trump administration to make changes to a bill that would require some employers to provide paid sick leave amid the coronavirus outbreak, executives said on an internal call on Monday, a recording of which was obtained by Business Insider.
- McDonald's leadership spoke with President Donald Trump on Tuesday morning. On Monday, they discussed concerns about how the bill would affect franchisees' finances with members of the Trump administration, including Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin.
- "McDonald's supports the bill that would provide sick leave support to employees impacted by Coronavirus, and in fact, McDonald's and many of its franchise owners have already committed to offer those same benefits to potentially diagnosed employees," a McDonald's representative told Business Insider.
- Fast-food chains have faced backlash about workers' vulnerability during the coronavirus outbreak. An estimated 517,000 employees at McDonald's locations don't have paid sick leave.
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Location: OH. IO | Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 11:12 PM
A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.
and thats the bottom line isnt it my friend.No need to bicker or throw throat punches,how very sad.I pray it all settles soon and everyone does their part. | |
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Location: Illinois | In my opinion, spawnig off the argument above, the 2 months of it here I don't think is accurate. I would be willing to be someone had it here closer to the time it started over there in December. And if anyone here died of it then it was probably assumed they had the flu. Idk about other places in the country but nobody here actually tests for the flu. If you have flu symptoms, they tell you that you have the flu & send you on your way, And I'm still willing to bet theres 1 million people at least that have it and have had it that nobody knows about bc there were no symptoms. So truly truly the statistics can't even be accurate, especially when they were saying at one tie 80% of the people testing positive have no symptoms. We still have to remember these confirmed cases aren't limited to just those that are sick from it. Everyone is terrified of it getting bigger & I can guarantee you its already been bigger than they thought for a long time & so far in the US its not that bad yet. Am I concerned for my 87 year old grandma, yes. Am I concerned for myself, absolutely not. I'm going to work & the barn & the store if I have to but I go at the end of the day just before close at night to avoid as many people as I can in public. | |
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