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Location: Kansas | ThreeCorners - 2014-04-30 3:15 PM Those saying it's a business to produce races and rescheduling just cant be done. Give me a break! Are you seriously going to try to tell me the producers in the west are soooooooooooo much smarter to figure out how to do it when we had the outbreak in 2011? EVEN a multi state Championship Finals w/ 20K added changed their date's and they had been on that same weekend since their inception!!
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Location: So. California | Sangria - 2014-04-30 1:28 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-04-30 3:15 PM Those saying it's a business to produce races and rescheduling just cant be done. Give me a break! Are you seriously going to try to tell me the producers in the west are soooooooooooo much smarter to figure out how to do it when we had the outbreak in 2011? EVEN a multi state Championship Finals w/ 20K added changed their date's and they had been on that same weekend since their inception!! What state are you talking about?
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| ThreeCorners - 2014-04-30 2:15 PM Those saying it's a business to produce races and rescheduling just cant be done. Give me a break! Are you seriously going to try to tell me the producers in the west are soooooooooooo much smarter to figure out how to do it when we had the outbreak in 2011? EVEN a multi state Championship Finals w/ 20K added changed their date's and they had been on that same weekend since their inception!!
And do you have any idea how much money they lost in the process?
What I am saying is that it's up to event producers and all this "I'll never go there again if they don't change" is in my opinion not very needed.
For all we know they have consulted with local vets and have made their decisions based on something other than money - risk vs. advice ?? |
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| This is the kind of propaganda that people read and not take EHV1 seriously. I just read this on a post somewhere on the internet. The first thought that crossed my mind is that 2014 must be extremely unusual since 10 horses (I think) have been put down this spring...so my question is: do a dozen or so horses die every year because of this and I am just hearing about it now?
"Equine herpesvirus-1 (EHV-1) non-neuropathogenic strain has recently been identified in horses in parts of Minnesota. This is not uncommon. The disease occurs in horses throughout the U.S. each year. However, it is unusual to see multiple cases in horses with EHV-1 that show neurologic signs. This virus has no effect on people. Equine herpesvirus has been associated with neurologic cases in llamas and alpacas, but has no affect on other types of livestock....It is serious, but not an epidemic or anything new. We just hear about it more now than before." |
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Location: North Dakota | Posted on Anoka's fb page. I highlighted a few important bits of information that are not be taken seriously.
EHV-1 UPDATE 4/30/14: AGAIN WE ASK THAT THIS IS USED AS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT DISCUSSION, DIRECT ALL SPECIFIC QUESTIONS TO [email protected]. FEEL FREE TO SHARE OR FOLLOW. THANKS SO MUCH. As most people know by now, there were two positive EHV-1 cases that recently came up after a large barrel horse event April 10-12 that was held in Lincoln, Nebraska. These two horses evidently were stables about 10 stalls apart – both were euthanized on April 26th (two weeks after the event ). One was located in Lafayette County, Wisconsin approximately 200 miles from the Twin Cities and the other one in Kansas. You can read more about the barrel event on their Facebook page (Bonus Race Finals ) as well as notes/info from the owner who lost her horse (we are very sorry for this devastating loss ). The suggested travel ban for our area was lifted on 4/22, at that time we HIGHLY recommended everyone still use extreme caution. We still recommend using extreme caution….Do not let horses touch noses and intermingle, no sharing buckets for food/water, no tying to a hitching post, do not be lax about letting others touch and visit your horses. Horses that were at this barrel racing event should be considered exposed. There were horses from Minnesota at this event (which was held during the suggested no travel ban). If you have a barrel horse coming/going from a barn or you are going to barrel events make sure there are not horses that participated in or are stabled with horses that attended the events where the positive horses had been until the total fall out from this situation is accessed.Things to remember: - There is not a vaccine that protects against the neurologic strain of EHV-1, however vaccinating does decrease shedding. Decreasing shedding helps to slow down or reduce the spread of the virus. Although most manufacturer’s recommend once yearly vaccinations, vaccinating twice yearly is a good idea. - Keep in mind the most common way the virus is spread is direct horse to horse contact however it can also be spread by tack, grooming equipment, feed/water buckets, people’s hands or clothing and various other avenues. - Signs of EHV-1 to watch for: Fever usually precedes neurologic signs by about 8-12 days, decreased coordination, urine dribbling, loss of tail tone, hind limb weakness, leaning on walls or fencing for balance, lethargy, inability to stand, and runny/snotty nasal discharge - If you are hosting a show or equine gathering it is a good idea for horses in attendance to arrive with a health certificate within a week prior to the event. Make sure there is a current temperature listed on the certificate and we’d recommend that the veterinarian writes, “To my knowledge this horse has not been exposed to EHV-1 in the last 21 days”. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't see much name calling or bat sh!t craziness on this thread at all. It's been a pretty reasonable exchange of ideas and opinions, as well as quite a bit of factually accurate information.
I wish it were a simple matter of "If you are worried, don't go...." What people are concerned about is if we continue to have shows during this period when cases are cropping up, then it theoretically effects us all. I just hope that in a month from now we aren't still talking about this. |
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Location: North Dakota | HotbearLVR - 2014-04-30 3:48 PM I don't see much name calling or bat sh!t craziness on this thread at all. It's been a pretty reasonable exchange of ideas and opinions, as well as quite a bit of factually accurate information.
I wish it were a simple matter of "If you are worried, don't go...." What people are concerned about is if we continue to have shows during this period when cases are cropping up, then it theoretically effects us all. I just hope that in a month from now we aren't still talking about this.
I agree. If all it would do is effect those that go then so be it let them go but that just isn't the case. This ultimately effects us all. |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | Just got word that the Kansas NBHA State Finals have been postponed to a later date. I'm glad they are taking it upon themselves to make the decision for others to keep your horse at home. Now if those anxious to run would take their advice & stay home for a few weeks. Prayers to the families that have lost their horses to this horrible disease.
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Location: North Dakota | R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Blueridgedreaming - 2014-04-29 1:52 PM
Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 1:25 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 1:08 PM
Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated?  I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right.  On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2. 
If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps.
Barrels&Babies I commend you for being so helpful for others! I  you!
Yes. They are both kinda crabby. The mare we lost was a big chestnut mare with no white and has really deep study sounding neigh. She never use to sound like that but her tie back surgery changed her voice. The bay is very antisocial. They would have been sharing blankets.
Edition to add I quoted the wrong post. Meant to quote CYAs post asking of they were the crabby ones.
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| Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM
R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend!
If you feel the need to bring TARPS for your stall at an event...WOW...shouldn't be going. |
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Location: PNW | Sangria - 2014-04-30 3:28 PM
ThreeCorners - 2014-04-30 3:15 PM Those saying it's a business to produce races and rescheduling just cant be done. Give me a break! Are you seriously going to try to tell me the producers in the west are soooooooooooo much smarter to figure out how to do it when we had the outbreak in 2011? EVEN a multi state Championship Finals w/ 20K added changed their date's and they had been on that same weekend since their inception!!Â
What state are you talking about?
BRN4D Finals - it's held Memorial Day weekend EVERY YEAR - except 2011 when they moved it to Labor Day because of the outbreak |
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| Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend!
Wow.... That is all I can muster to say after reading that. Disenfectant and tarps..... Ok then.... |
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| Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend!
Hate to break it to them, but there were tarps and disinfectants used in Lincoln. There was a tarp put up between the stalls for the 2nd horse that was euthanized. |
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| I believe the difference between 2011 and 2014 is 2011 the state intervened closing down state borders to outside horses, then producers have no choice but to postpone or cancel.
2014 the states haven't closed borders, has the state vets even issued a statement?
Also people wanting to compare this to humans. My area the CDC has issues a measles outbreak, there are no new immunization clinics, schools are still running, nothing has been closed down. Approx 40 percent of children are vaccinated, so 60 percent of the children are at risk. The CDC hasn't issued a statement on keeping children at home, nor are the doctors informing the active cancer patients of safeguards.
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| Nateracer - 2014-04-30 4:25 PM
Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend!
Hate to break it to them, but there were tarps and disinfectants used in Lincoln. There was a tarp put up between the stalls for the 2nd horse that was euthanized.Â
The tarps may have worked, no one knows where the horse picked up the virus at the event.
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Location: North Dakota | cheryl makofka - 2014-04-30 4:27 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-30 4:25 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend! Hate to break it to them, but there were tarps and disinfectants used in Lincoln. There was a tarp put up between the stalls for the 2nd horse that was euthanized. The tarps may have worked, no one knows where the horse picked up the virus at the event. There are so many variables on the transmission of the virus
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Location: ND | cheryl makofka - 2014-04-30 4:27 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-30 4:25 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend! Hate to break it to them, but there were tarps and disinfectants used in Lincoln. There was a tarp put up between the stalls for the 2nd horse that was euthanized. The tarps may have worked, no one knows where the horse picked up the virus at the event. There are so many variables on the transmission of the virus
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | lookout hill - 2014-04-30 3:56 PM Just got word that the Kansas NBHA State Finals have been postponed to a later date. I'm glad they are taking it upon themselves to make the decision for others to keep your horse at home. Now if those anxious to run would take their advice & stay home for a few weeks. Prayers to the families that have lost their horses to this horrible disease.
How many cases have been reported in Kansas? Two? Kudos for them to postpone the NBHA state finals. Meanwhile here in Minnesota and Wisconsin people are all breathing a sigh of relief and it's back to business as usual. I don't see how we can be out of the woods yet. They are still euthanizing horses as recently as a week ago and rumors of unreported/unofficial cases in western Wisconsin are spreading like wildfire. I just hope we luck out.....as the saying goes, "Better to be lucky than good!" |
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Location: Oz, Kansas | HotbearLVR - 2014-04-30 3:37 PM lookout hill - 2014-04-30 3:56 PM Just got word that the Kansas NBHA State Finals have been postponed to a later date. I'm glad they are taking it upon themselves to make the decision for others to keep your horse at home. Now if those anxious to run would take their advice & stay home for a few weeks. Prayers to the families that have lost their horses to this horrible disease. How many cases have been reported in Kansas? Two? Kudos for them to postpone the NBHA state finals. Meanwhile here in Minnesota and Wisconsin people are all breathing a sigh of relief and it's back to business as usual. I don't see how we can be out of the woods yet. They are still euthanizing horses as recently as a week ago and rumors of unreported/unofficial cases in western Wisconsin are spreading like wildfire. I just hope we luck out.....as the saying goes, "Better to be lucky than good!"
One confirmed that I know of. It was a teenagers horse & her mother is really active in NBHA & produces shows. Her & the state director are good friends. |
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