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Location: Beggs, OK | Anniemae - 2015-02-06 3:55 PM Does anyone have names/contact info/address to testing labs?
I lost my mare in October and the vets never did figure out what was wrong with her. he symptoms are eerily similar... I still have her feed in my garage, I refused to feed it to any of our other horses and I never threw it away.
Send it to the lab at UC Davis. That's where many testing facilities send theirs to be quantified or confirmed anyway. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-06 2:28 PM Still have not heard back from TC on any of the 5 emails I sent. My guess is they are FLOODED with them. THey used to email back questions in a matter of an hour or two. This is a huge thread here on BHW, I wonder if there are any other threads on other sites for different horse disciplines? If we could get them involved it really would cause a stir.
I called Triple Crown as I do feed a small amount that I mix in with his beet pulp at night to make it more platable, one bag lasts me over 6 weeks. Stacey called me back within 2 hours. I've been feeding Renew Gold and it looks like I'll be sticking with it with all the stuff going on as I was thinking about going to go back to Triple Crown as my main grain, the price where I was getting it jumped to $42.00 put TSC will now order it for $29.95.
I had trouble with consistency with the Triple Crown out of the Mineola mill in Texas. Too wet, too dry and then like a brick. I was just told they quit milling out of that mill and moved it to Sequin but until the Sequin mill was up and running they brought in feed from other mills. They have one mill that mixes medicated cattle feed but it is in a separate area. She was very helpful and answered all my questions. Sounds like they are taking this problem very seriously. She looked up the mills that would be sending product to the feed stores I use so I suggest other Triple Crown feeders call and find out also to make sure. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | From now on I will take pictures of the tags of all the feed I feed. Our phones make it so easy to do and will help us keep a record. |
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Location: Here | Nevertooold - 2015-02-06 4:20 PM From now on I will take pictures of the tags of all the feed I feed. Our phones make it so easy to do and will help us keep a record.
Good idea. I pulled tags from mine today |
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-06 2:53 PM I was fortunate enough just now to receive my very own personal phone call from Jason Hartley with ADM.
Per Jason:
The FDA has set no allowable limits on Monensin in horse feed.
Our published research shows that horses were exposed to a feed with 33ppm for 28 days and showed no signs of illness or backed away from the feed.
The only way to get our point across to this company and all the rest is to only support MONENSIN FREE mills. Jason would not even respond to my suggestion that they separate their operations and only produce medicated cattle feed in facilities that do not produce feed for horses.
argggg. guess he knows more than vets. Wonder of he dod cardiac testing |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | What an education this thread is. Thank you Rachellyn80 for the great information. My daughter works for a vet who is huge in the Arabian horse world. He told her that horse feed scares the hell out of him. Someone here made the comparison about the feed to peanut allergies. I think that has a lot of merit. We now know about hot spots in feed and how it happens. We have become educated consumers. What we each do with this information is up to us. I only hope this information reaches so many more horse owners than are on this site. As horribly sad as it has been to read about the suffering of innocent owners and their horses this has been by far one of the best threads in a very long time. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Zebra racer - 2015-02-06 2:01 PM fatchance - 2015-02-06 10:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS! And this is sad for us as we as citizens want less government and we want to support our farmers. It is a double edged sword.
I'm lucky. One of my brothers raises a small amount of oats for his own personal use. He will now be supplying his favorite sister with her oats so I dont have to worry about the bulk I normally buy from the local feed store that I was told yesterday does mix medicated and equine in the same facility. For my low starch diet gelding, I'm switching to Ultium since I spent a good 20 minutes on the phone and another half hour in the office of our local feed store/rep and they assured me that equine and cattle feeds are from two different facilities. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-06 11:05 AM fatchance - 2015-02-06 10:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS! I missed that about the trucks. What was said?
My local store told me that any of the bulk feed I buy comes from the one and only facility they have and it also mixes medicated feeds. They also use all trucks to deliver both types of feeds. When I questioned their practices they said that the plant and the trucks were flushed with oats or corn. That makes me nervous. |
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Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-06 11:05 AM fatchance - 2015-02-06 10:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS! I missed that about the trucks. What was said?
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | Reading all this is just scary! Been wanting to go the oats and rice bran combo and now I think I will be finishing up my last bag of tc complete and switching everyone over! |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Has anyone checked on alfalfa pellets? |
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Location: Florida.. | Update on my friends in AL.. whoms feed tested positive ..
We have had a week filled with highs and lows as we have tried to gain more knowledge regarding our current situation. Our second round of troponin testing show...ed that two horses had elevated out of the "normal" range. We also held our breath as we went through a round of echocardiograms on Friday and received the news that one of the four horses has measurable cardiac abnormalities consistent with monensin exposure. He was discharged with instructions for complete rest until we can determine that he has returned to normal cardiac function.
Still other horses are being cleared to proceed with exercise ECG's to determine the functionality of the heart during increased activity. It is exhausting to experience a measure of relief and devastation in the same day and we are only getting started. We are doing everything in our power to ensure that the horses are monitored and the best diagnostic procedures are available to them.
Everyone please take this situation seriously and if you have had horses on feed manufactured by ADM Alliance Nutrition have your horses monitored for monensin exposure. It is a life threatening substance to horses and I cannot stress enough to be diligent in having your feed tested. Regardless of what you hear, the FDA says that NO amount of monensin is allowed in feed intended for equine consumption. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Anniemae - 2015-02-06 3:55 PM Does anyone have names/contact info/address to testing labs?
I lost my mare in October and the vets never did figure out what was wrong with her. he symptoms are eerily similar... I still have her feed in my garage, I refused to feed it to any of our other horses and I never threw it away.
There's a lab in Brookings, SD and another in MN but not sure where. What feed were you feeding your mare? I'm so sorry you lost her.  |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | want2chase3 - 2015-02-07 10:07 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-07 9:52 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-06 11:05 AM fatchance - 2015-02-06 10:59 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-06 8:45 AM I just hung up from my local Purina rep. Our Purina comes out of KC and the cattle products out of Sioux City. She reassured me that anything coming out of a Purina bag (equine) is safe. I hope so. I was feeding my gelding Nutrena but after seeing SKM's post that's making me a little nervous. I hope they are correct and not telling us what we want to hear......After reading about needing to be worried about the trucks who haul the grain, I am leaning towards zero grain. This is NUTS! I missed that about the trucks. What was said? I wonder where the oats and corn they use to flush end up
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| I just heard back from Stacey at Triple crown. She asked me for specific lot numbers off my feed tags so she could give me specific information about the mills my feed comes from. I will post the response when I get it. I feed both senior and complete. They are made by 2 different Mills. |
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Location: Texas! | Anything about ADM JUNIOR GLO? Or is it just the patriot lines? |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-07 2:54 PM I still have not received a reply from Triple Crown to any of the emails I have sent.
I called and left a message and got a return call within 2 hours and they were very helpful and answered all of my questions. |
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