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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2020-03-19 9:43 AM
Subject: RE: Coronavirus



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I saw on the news this morning that there are no new reported cases in China for the first time that this started. If that is accurate, that's good ... now what about us? We have a whopping 3 cases REPORTED in my county... my whole county .. 1 being a 70 yr old man that just returned from overseas. I'm staying put as much as I can.... our HEB is offering free curbside pickup but there is a 7 day wait list as of right now. Think I'll just wait and not clog up the system even more because I'm afraid I wont be able to get food. We have plenty right now. Same with toilet paper, soap, etc etc... I'm a little low on dog food as chewy is out of my brand but they have enough to last at least 2 weeks. I'm more annoyed than anything right now. I saw a single bottle of dial hand soap on Amazon for $48.00.   Amazon is out of pretty much everything you cant get in stores right now. If everyone would just STOP.... stop going out unnecessarily, stop hoarding groceries, STOP panicking! I saw on Facebook a producer putting on a race still and receiving plenty of backlash for it... can we really not sit tight for 2 lousy weeks and get this thing under control so we can move on??? Come on ... I also saw on tractor supply Facebook page that they have to give you toilet paper before entering the restroom because people were stealing toilet paper from the restrooms in there. Come on!!!  My sister works at a major bank in Arkansas,  they are closed in the lobby but have drive thru... people are lined up taking all their money out. All this nonsense is going to have worse longterm negative effects than the coronavirus itself.... 

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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2020-03-19 9:59 AM
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I see lots of people posting numbers but not mentioning the variables.  Some viruses are more contagious and their timing can differ as well. Some are more contagious when the symptoms appear and others are still very contagious way before symptoms appear  then there is droplets vs aerosols.  Just how "airborne " is this strain , there seems to be arguments over that right now

then there are the ones that don't care because "it won't effect them". Calling it "boomer remover" ok great you don't care about others. What happens when it mutates? 

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 10:30 AM
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kwanatha - 2020-03-19 9:59 AM


I see lots of people posting numbers but not mentioning the variables.  Some viruses are more contagious and their timing can differ as well. Some are more contagious when the symptoms appear and others are still very contagious way before symptoms appear  then there is droplets vs aerosols.  Just how "airborne " is this strain , there seems to be arguments over that right now


then there are the ones that don't care because "it won't effect them". Calling it "boomer remover" ok great you don't care about others. What happens when it mutates? 


They interviewed a couple of college students from this area .... Both said that they would have no problem taking advantage of the cheap air fares for TRAVEL and probably would do so ..... when asked about the virus, they said that it is an "old folks" worry .... and LAUGHED!

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krape
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2020-03-19 10:59 AM
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Yep, manufactured crisis!!!!  The Coronovirus was manufactured in a bio/chemical lab in Wahun China.  China hates Trump because he doesn't crawl, he stands like a bear.  I don't care if he speaks when he shouldn't at times...I do the same.  They release the virus for population control of their own and to interfere with this election but Americans are not stupid.  China along with Russia would much prefer a weak President like Obama, Biden, or socialist Bernie.  The virus is real thanks to China, we too will get through this. 

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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2020-03-19 11:41 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 10:12 PM


A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.


It is very sad he died :(  

BUT, there have been conflicting reports on him.  Even when I was watching the news, last night, what was written on the screen was different than what the reporter was saying.  He already had an underlying condition, and they have not been able to confirm the cause of his death.  Even though they did later confirm he tested positive for coronavirus, they can't say that the symptoms of that virus is what actually killed him.

That's why you have to be very careful with the media - they have an agenda and will skew facts, as someone else said above.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 1:48 PM
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txbredbr - 2020-03-19 11:41 AM


Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 10:12 PM


A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.



It is very sad he died :(  


BUT, there have been conflicting reports on him.  Even when I was watching the news, last night, what was written on the screen was different than what the reporter was saying.  He already had an underlying condition, and they have not been able to confirm the cause of his death.  Even though they did later confirm he tested positive for coronavirus, they can't say that the symptoms of that virus is what actually killed him.


That's why you have to be very careful with the media - they have an agenda and will skew facts, as someone else said above.


Now I thought this was how this virus worked, it hits the ones that are weak and have a low immunity with underlying issues. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 1:52 PM
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NJJ - 2020-03-19 10:30 AM


kwanatha - 2020-03-19 9:59 AM


I see lots of people posting numbers but not mentioning the variables.  Some viruses are more contagious and their timing can differ as well. Some are more contagious when the symptoms appear and others are still very contagious way before symptoms appear  then there is droplets vs aerosols.  Just how "airborne " is this strain , there seems to be arguments over that right now


then there are the ones that don't care because "it won't effect them". Calling it "boomer remover" ok great you don't care about others. What happens when it mutates? 



They interviewed a couple of college students from this area .... Both said that they would have no problem taking advantage of the cheap air fares for TRAVEL and probably would do so ..... when asked about the virus, they said that it is an "old folks" worry .... and LAUGHED!


Well there you go, people thinking this is nothing to worry about, thats pretty sad if they are looking at this virus that way, an Old Folks worry, WOW!!!!

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JLazyT_perf_horses
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2020-03-19 2:03 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-19 1:48 PM

txbredbr - 2020-03-19 11:41 AM

Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 10:12 PM

A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.

It is very sad he died :(  

BUT, there have been conflicting reports on him.  Even when I was watching the news, last night, what was written on the screen was different than what the reporter was saying.  He already had an underlying condition, and they have not been able to confirm the cause of his death.  Even though they did later confirm he tested positive for coronavirus, they can't say that the symptoms of that virus is what actually killed him.

That's why you have to be very careful with the media - they have an agenda and will skew facts, as someone else said above.

Now I thought this was how this virus worked, it hits the ones that are weak and have a low immunity with underlying issues. 

Yes but they're saying that doesn't mean all the deaths are from the virus. If you have the virus and it weakens your immune system enough, the previous underlying health issue may be the cause of death. I have high BP and if the virus raised it enough to give me a stroke and I died from that, my cause of death would be stroke. But the media would just say I had the virus and died. 



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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 2:44 PM
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jake16 - 2020-03-18 10:34 PM


Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 11:12 PM


A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.



and thats the bottom line isnt it my friend.No need to bicker or throw throat punches,how very sad.I pray it all settles soon and everyone does their part.


The sad part is not many are willing to do their part.. They wont take this serious, what about all the grand parents out there, I'm betting they are taking this very serious. And BOY your not kidding about the throwing throat punches WOWZ !!!!!

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WetSaddleBlankets
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2020-03-19 3:00 PM
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kwanatha - 2020-03-19 9:59 AM

I see lots of people posting numbers but not mentioning the variables.  Some viruses are more contagious and their timing can differ as well. Some are more contagious when the symptoms appear and others are still very contagious way before symptoms appear  then there is droplets vs aerosols.  Just how "airborne " is this strain , there seems to be arguments over that right now

then there are the ones that don't care because "it won't effect them". Calling it "boomer remover" ok great you don't care about others. What happens when it mutates? 

How contagious?? Very. 70% of the dental Field is shut down. It's to contagious for us to work due to the nature of the symptoms and being an aerosol contracted disease. Some can have it and be asymptomatic. Show no signs of disease. Our PPE isn't enough. We have level 3 masks that protect against bodily fluids but they are recommending N95 masks which protect from aerosols. But we don't want them because the medical field needs them more.  OSHA standard is to use universal precautions and always treat people as if they are infected long before COVID-19. But to risk the elderly or compromised patients is not worth it considereding how the rest of the community is reacting. ADA and the government strongly recommends postponing any elective non emergency dental care for 3 weeks. When they are shutting bars and dine in restaurants state wide, I personally take it seriously. Especially with my profession as a hygienist with being on the front line for contracting and spreading. Not the liability I want. My office is shut down for 2 weeks... Possibly look longer. Some are for 3 weeks.



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Running B
Reg. Oct 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 4:19 PM
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       I hear about some small jobs shutting down and only pickup at resturants but what about factories with 600 or more.How does this affect them?

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 5:12 PM
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Running B - 2020-03-19 4:19 PM


       I hear about some small jobs shutting down and only pickup at resturants but what about factories with 600 or more.How does this affect them?


I pray it dont come down to closing these factories, My favorite resturants have already closed their doors, I hope that they can stay in business after this mess is over.

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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2020-03-19 5:21 PM
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Palopony - 2020-03-18 4:52 PM


Well keep watching the CDC according to the ones I watch it's going to jump quite a bit.  We just passed S Koren in cases, not a contest I want to win.  I want to know what Germany is doing over 12,000 cases and only 28 deaths.


Possibly lots of false positives in the testing.  I know that was a major issue in the S. Korean testing.

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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2020-03-19 5:52 PM
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Barnmom - 2020-03-19 3:21 PM


Palopony - 2020-03-18 4:52 PM


Well keep watching the CDC according to the ones I watch it's going to jump quite a bit.  We just passed S Koren in cases, not a contest I want to win.  I want to know what Germany is doing over 12,000 cases and only 28 deaths.



Possibly lots of false positives in the testing.  I know that was a major issue in the S. Korean testing.


One thing to consider is when arriving at death rates you really should back track your denominator.  Take the number of deaths and divide by the number infected 3 weeks ago. The deaths from the recently infected have not occurred yet

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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2020-03-20 8:54 AM
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JLazyT_perf_horses - 2020-03-19 2:03 PM



Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-19 1:48 PM


txbredbr - 2020-03-19 11:41 AM


Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 10:12 PM


A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.



It is very sad he died :(  


BUT, there have been conflicting reports on him.  Even when I was watching the news, last night, what was written on the screen was different than what the reporter was saying.  He already had an underlying condition, and they have not been able to confirm the cause of his death.  Even though they did later confirm he tested positive for coronavirus, they can't say that the symptoms of that virus is what actually killed him.


That's why you have to be very careful with the media - they have an agenda and will skew facts, as someone else said above.



Now I thought this was how this virus worked, it hits the ones that are weak and have a low immunity with underlying issues. 



Yes but they're saying that doesn't mean all the deaths are from the virus. If you have the virus and it weakens your immune system enough, the previous underlying health issue may be the cause of death. I have high BP and if the virus raised it enough to give me a stroke and I died from that, my cause of death would be stroke. But the media would just say I had the virus and died. 


I am trying to wrap my head around this type of thinking ....... If NOT for the virus, you would not have died!

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-20 10:53 AM
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NJJ - 2020-03-20 8:54 AM


JLazyT_perf_horses - 2020-03-19 2:03 PM



Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-19 1:48 PM


txbredbr - 2020-03-19 11:41 AM


Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 10:12 PM


A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.



It is very sad he died :(  


BUT, there have been conflicting reports on him.  Even when I was watching the news, last night, what was written on the screen was different than what the reporter was saying.  He already had an underlying condition, and they have not been able to confirm the cause of his death.  Even though they did later confirm he tested positive for coronavirus, they can't say that the symptoms of that virus is what actually killed him.


That's why you have to be very careful with the media - they have an agenda and will skew facts, as someone else said above.



Now I thought this was how this virus worked, it hits the ones that are weak and have a low immunity with underlying issues. 



Yes but they're saying that doesn't mean all the deaths are from the virus. If you have the virus and it weakens your immune system enough, the previous underlying health issue may be the cause of death. I have high BP and if the virus raised it enough to give me a stroke and I died from that, my cause of death would be stroke. But the media would just say I had the virus and died. 



I am trying to wrap my head around this type of thinking ....... If NOT for the virus, you would not have died!


Thats the MO of this Virus, it takes the weak down. Thats why its so scary for anyone thats has a low immune system or underlying issue. 

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txbredbr
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2020-03-20 11:51 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-20 10:53 AM

NJJ - 2020-03-20 8:54 AM

JLazyT_perf_horses - 2020-03-19 2:03 PM

Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-19 1:48 PM

txbredbr - 2020-03-19 11:41 AM

Southtxponygirl - 2020-03-18 10:12 PM

A 64 year old Plano, Tx man dies today from the Coronvirus. How sad, he was not even old.

It is very sad he died :(  

BUT, there have been conflicting reports on him.  Even when I was watching the news, last night, what was written on the screen was different than what the reporter was saying.  He already had an underlying condition, and they have not been able to confirm the cause of his death.  Even though they did later confirm he tested positive for coronavirus, they can't say that the symptoms of that virus is what actually killed him.

That's why you have to be very careful with the media - they have an agenda and will skew facts, as someone else said above.

Now I thought this was how this virus worked, it hits the ones that are weak and have a low immunity with underlying issues. 

Yes but they're saying that doesn't mean all the deaths are from the virus. If you have the virus and it weakens your immune system enough, the previous underlying health issue may be the cause of death. I have high BP and if the virus raised it enough to give me a stroke and I died from that, my cause of death would be stroke. But the media would just say I had the virus and died. 

I am trying to wrap my head around this type of thinking ....... If NOT for the virus, you would not have died!

Thats the MO of this Virus, it takes the weak down. Thats why its so scary for anyone thats has a low immune system or underlying issue. 

My intent in this statement was lost a little - what I am pointing out is that if someone dies from a different cause, but just happened to test positive for the virus, the media will point out they had they had the covid-19 virus and died. 

I have heard so many conflicting stories of the virus, that I do believe it is getting blown way out of proportion.  Here in my area, rumors of a Judge being in ICU and panic surrounding it, then a few hours later I find out he's home and doing fine - that the other was just a rumor.  A doctor telling my husband it is like a cold for most people -  if they even show symptoms at all - but the media can twist something any way they like and you just have to be careful about that, is what I am saying.

I work in criminal defense  - I've seen them do the same thing with our cases....and I know what really is the truth, then what the media reports - or doesn't.

 



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Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-03-20 1:54 PM
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All these kids partying and blowing off this virus, I just wonder who is funding their lifestyle. If it is the parents I guess we know who needs slapped.  If they are employed, the funding will dry up soon and they will find themselves broke at home.

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-20 3:32 PM
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Peggy {OregonBR} since you are all up to date about the coronavirus and watch alot of videos with Dan B, tell us how this Virus works,my understanding is that it works on the Low immune systems ones with underlying issues, so the ones that have died because of the Coronavirus but had underlying issue the CV is not the blame then? I know you have alot of information so expalin then..So the news media is all false as some are saying?

Edited: the reason I'm asking you this is that you like txbredbr post about the media being false. So just wondering. 



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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2020-03-20 3:41 PM
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If this is getting blown way out of proportion then why has this gotton so far as in closing down business, schools, people are going into depth over all this. and the ones that did die from the CV didnt really die because of the virus it was the underlying issues these people had? I meant to Quote txbredbr.. 



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