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     Location: Lala Land | Herbie - 2014-03-28 11:44 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-28 11:40 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-28 11:31 AM Lovin Life - 2014-03-28 11:30 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-28 11:28 AM Lovin Life - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM I saw a post on Byron's FB asking if you can get rid of a freeze brand.... pretty tacky Did you expect anything less? Not really......but it amazes me how some people have no shame My daughter told me about a post he made last week that made me want to vomit. I guess you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. woah someone share the info!!! I'm always kept out of the loop! :( This is old news.....I heard about that post and the fact the horse may be crippled a month ago....before The American. Yet he was still being hauled, illegally.
Just saw the post today... didn't look at the date. I still think it's in poor taste and a true statement of character. |
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         Location: MT | Firemanswife - 2014-03-28 10:45 AM UPDATE/CORRECTION-bidding started at $20,000 and immediatly shot up to $75000. And then just blew up. Big increments hard and fast.
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Firemanswife - 2014-03-28 11:45 AM UPDATE/CORRECTION-bidding started at $20,000 and immediatly shot up to $75000. And then just blew up. Big increments hard and fast.
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| I can't believe all the people blindly following one side and the nasty things they are saying on facebook. It is so wrong and sad but what is with the gullible? I will apologize many times over if I am wrong in believing one side is being cruciffied unjustlly when the facts are final.
I admit I wanted to see someone else ride the horse but I wanted to see what a kid would do on in. |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Dirt Dobber - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM I can't believe all the people blindly following one side and the nasty things they are saying on facebook. It is so wrong and sad but what is with the gullible? I will apologize many times over if I am wrong in believing one side is being cruciffied unjustlly when the facts are final.
I admit I wanted to see someone else ride the horse but I wanted to see what a kid would do on in.
If I go into a restaurant and order Prime Rib then skip out on the check they'd be after me like white on rice. Not sure why for some people that doesn't apply. |
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      Location: NE Texas | Here's a scary thought to ponder.....an insurance policy worth $850,000 can legitimately be taken out on a crippled gelding. Is he now worth more dead than alive? |
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| Haters will be haters! Mary Walker kept Latte! And by the looks of my Facebook feed, still has MANY fans! |
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    Location: That part of Texas | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM TxBronc - 2014-03-28 11:18 AM Ashley Lynn - 2014-03-28 11:15 AM I am having a hard time believing any of this. NO business minded individual would pay this much money for a GELDING that is currently injured, I WOULD HOPE! Even if he has a fantastic career ahead of him and wins the world 5 more times, he will NEVER win that money back. I believe fully in the sale, however I think the price was a serious case of GRANDSTANDING. I know what Stitch brought when he was sold as a sound horse with more world titles under his belt, it was no where near 850k!!! Don't you get it? Apparently all that is basically paid for him is 85k, some court costs and lawyers costs. And then I guess down the road there may be a separate judgement the court and lawyer costs that one may end up paying could wel exceed 85K.....
They possibly might but might not. If you consider the time it takes on filing the suit, filing motions to get it where it is now and possible discovery/mediation/deposition costs to date, it might be around $15-20K right now on the high end. I would say that they are probably going to claim $300-500 per hour is a reasonable and necessary attorney fee on this and I can see them having maybe a good 30-45 hours on this one right now.
Going the route of using a Motion for Summary Judgment to kill some of the issues helped in keeping those costs down. I think the bigger fight is going to be on the issue of what's considered "winnings" under the contract and the value of any endorsements, sponsor contracts, etc. that might be involved in all of that. Those will be more fact issues than law so it's going to be more litigated if there is no agreement on how those figures will be reached. At that point in time, one party may ask that a jury decide what that should be and this could end up in a jury trial -- which costs quite a bit more moneywise. If not, it would be up to the judge to calculate those figures and award money based on the contract. |
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           Location: Kansas | ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 11:57 AM Haters will be haters! Mary Walker kept Latte! And by the looks of my Facebook feed, still has MANY fans!
ooooo sssshhhhhiiiiizzzzzz
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   Location: Montana | Herbie - 2014-03-28 9:37 AM
Not buying it.Β Justin Boots is a publicly traded company owned by a conglomerate known as Berkshire Hathaway,Β which is owned by Warren Buffett.Β I don't think Justin Boots has that kind of "power" to stand alone as a company or make those decisions.Β
Warren Buffett can do and pay whatever he wants and use whatever company he owns to do it. JMHO |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 11:57 AM Haters will be haters! Mary Walker kept Latte! And by the looks of my Facebook feed, still has MANY fans!
It amazes me how many crooks there are in the world. I'd rather ride on the good side of the law, thank you very much. |
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| Red Raider - 2014-03-28 11:58 AM
dhdqhllc - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM TxBronc - 2014-03-28 11:18 AM Ashley Lynn - 2014-03-28 11:15 AM I am having a hard time believing any of this.Β NO business minded individual would pay this much money for a GELDING that is currently injured, I WOULD HOPE! Even if he has a fantastic career ahead of him and wins the world 5 more times, he will NEVER win that money back. I believe fully in the sale, however I think the price was a serious case of GRANDSTANDING.Β I know what Stitch brought when he was sold as a sound horse with more world titles under his belt, it was no where near 850k!!! Don't you get it? Apparently all that is basically paid for him is 85k, some court costs and lawyers costs. And then I guess down the road there may be a separate judgement the court and lawyer costs that one may end up paying could wel exceed 85K.....Β
They possibly might but might not.Β If you consider the time it takes on filing the suit, filing motions to get it where it is now and possible discovery/mediation/deposition costs to date, it might be around $15-20K right now on the high end.Β I would say that they are probably going to claim $300-500 per hour is a reasonable and necessary attorney fee on this and I can see them having maybe a good 30-45 hours on this one right now.Β
Going the route of using a Motion for Summary Judgment to kill some of the issues helped in keeping those costs down.Β I think the bigger fight is going to be on the issue of what's considered "winnings" under the contract and the value of any endorsements, sponsor contracts, etc. that might be involved in all of that.Β Those will be more fact issues than law so it's going to be more litigated if there is no agreement on how those figures will be reached.Β At that point in time, one party may ask that a jury decide what that should be and this could end up in a jury trial -- which costs quite a bit more moneywise.Β If not, it would be up to the judge to calculate those figures and award money based on the contract. Β
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:00 PM Red Raider - 2014-03-28 11:58 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM TxBronc - 2014-03-28 11:18 AM Ashley Lynn - 2014-03-28 11:15 AM I am having a hard time believing any of this. NO business minded individual would pay this much money for a GELDING that is currently injured, I WOULD HOPE! Even if he has a fantastic career ahead of him and wins the world 5 more times, he will NEVER win that money back. I believe fully in the sale, however I think the price was a serious case of GRANDSTANDING. I know what Stitch brought when he was sold as a sound horse with more world titles under his belt, it was no where near 850k!!! Don't you get it? Apparently all that is basically paid for him is 85k, some court costs and lawyers costs. And then I guess down the road there may be a separate judgement the court and lawyer costs that one may end up paying could wel exceed 85K..... They possibly might but might not. If you consider the time it takes on filing the suit, filing motions to get it where it is now and possible discovery/mediation/deposition costs to date, it might be around $15-20K right now on the high end. I would say that they are probably going to claim $300-500 per hour is a reasonable and necessary attorney fee on this and I can see them having maybe a good 30-45 hours on this one right now.
Going the route of using a Motion for Summary Judgment to kill some of the issues helped in keeping those costs down. I think the bigger fight is going to be on the issue of what's considered "winnings" under the contract and the value of any endorsements, sponsor contracts, etc. that might be involved in all of that. Those will be more fact issues than law so it's going to be more litigated if there is no agreement on how those figures will be reached. At that point in time, one party may ask that a jury decide what that should be and this could end up in a jury trial -- which costs quite a bit more moneywise. If not, it would be up to the judge to calculate those figures and award money based on the contract. It is nice to haves somebody with actual expertise.
All I got from that was that I need to find me a lawyer to marry lol... |
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 How freakish is that?
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        Location: Oregon | So George Strait and Warren Buffet were running up the bid? |
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| LRQHS - 2014-03-28 12:02 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:00 PM Red Raider - 2014-03-28 11:58 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM TxBronc - 2014-03-28 11:18 AM Ashley Lynn - 2014-03-28 11:15 AM I am having a hard time believing any of this. NO business minded individual would pay this much money for a GELDING that is currently injured, I WOULD HOPE! Even if he has a fantastic career ahead of him and wins the world 5 more times, he will NEVER win that money back. I believe fully in the sale, however I think the price was a serious case of GRANDSTANDING. I know what Stitch brought when he was sold as a sound horse with more world titles under his belt, it was no where near 850k!!! Don't you get it? Apparently all that is basically paid for him is 85k, some court costs and lawyers costs. And then I guess down the road there may be a separate judgement the court and lawyer costs that one may end up paying could wel exceed 85K..... They possibly might but might not. If you consider the time it takes on filing the suit, filing motions to get it where it is now and possible discovery/mediation/deposition costs to date, it might be around $15-20K right now on the high end. I would say that they are probably going to claim $300-500 per hour is a reasonable and necessary attorney fee on this and I can see them having maybe a good 30-45 hours on this one right now.
Going the route of using a Motion for Summary Judgment to kill some of the issues helped in keeping those costs down. I think the bigger fight is going to be on the issue of what's considered "winnings" under the contract and the value of any endorsements, sponsor contracts, etc. that might be involved in all of that. Those will be more fact issues than law so it's going to be more litigated if there is no agreement on how those figures will be reached. At that point in time, one party may ask that a jury decide what that should be and this could end up in a jury trial -- which costs quite a bit more moneywise. If not, it would be up to the judge to calculate those figures and award money based on the contract. It is nice to haves somebody with actual expertise. All I got from that was that I need to find me a lawyer to marry lol...
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             Location: WYOMING | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-28 12:53 PM Dirt Dobber - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM I can't believe all the people blindly following one side and the nasty things they are saying on facebook. It is so wrong and sad but what is with the gullible? I will apologize many times over if I am wrong in believing one side is being cruciffied unjustlly when the facts are final.
I admit I wanted to see someone else ride the horse but I wanted to see what a kid would do on in. If I go into a restaurant and order Prime Rib then skip out on the check they'd be after me like white on rice. Not sure why for some people that doesn't apply. Cause someone else will pick up the dinner bill for some people...
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| Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-03-28 12:00 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 11:57 AM Haters will be haters! Mary Walker kept Latte! And by the looks of my Facebook feed, still has MANY fans! It amazes me how many crooks there are in the world. I'd rather ride on the good side of the law, thank you very much.
Exactly, it is a shame how our society condones bad behavior , that is the big picture that disturbs me so much. Don't judge a book by its cover, even those with nice covers. |
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    Location: Midwest | Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:05 PM
LRQHS - 2014-03-28 12:02 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:00 PM Red Raider - 2014-03-28 11:58 AM dhdqhllc - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM TxBronc - 2014-03-28 11:18 AM Ashley Lynn - 2014-03-28 11:15 AM I am having a hard time believing any of this.Β NO business minded individual would pay this much money for a GELDING that is currently injured, I WOULD HOPE! Even if he has a fantastic career ahead of him and wins the world 5 more times, he will NEVER win that money back. I believe fully in the sale, however I think the price was a serious case of GRANDSTANDING.Β I know what Stitch brought when he was sold as a sound horse with more world titles under his belt, it was no where near 850k!!! Don't you get it? Apparently all that is basically paid for him is 85k, some court costs and lawyers costs. And then I guess down the road there may be a separate judgement the court and lawyer costs that one may end up paying could wel exceed 85K.....Β They possibly might but might not.Β If you consider the time it takes on filing the suit, filing motions to get it where it is now and possible discovery/mediation/deposition costs to date, it might be around $15-20K right now on the high end.Β I would say that they are probably going to claim $300-500 per hour is a reasonable and necessary attorney fee on this and I can see them having maybe a good 30-45 hours on this one right now.Β
Going the route of using a Motion for Summary Judgment to kill some of the issues helped in keeping those costs down.Β I think the bigger fight is going to be on the issue of what's considered "winnings" under the contract and the value of any endorsements, sponsor contracts, etc. that might be involved in all of that.Β Those will be more fact issues than law so it's going to be more litigated if there is no agreement on how those figures will be reached.Β At that point in time, one party may ask that a jury decide what that should be and this could end up in a jury trial -- which costs quite a bit more moneywise.Β If not, it would be up to the judge to calculate those figures and award money based on the contract. Β It is nice to haves somebody with actual expertise. All I got from that was that I need to find me a lawyer to marry lol...
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      Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed!
Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid. |
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