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Location: In the Hills of Texas | The link that Musicmaker posted, IMO, pretty much nails it with this comment.
What happened in Clark County Nevada struck a nerve with the American people, but the response we saw had very little to do with this particular crisis. There is something much deeper brewing under the surface in the United States. This showdown was just a catalyst. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | smiley - 2014-04-15 11:45 AM Speedy Cowgirl - 2014-04-15 11:13 AM foundation horse - 2014-04-15 11:24 AM WOW! Busted!  WOW IS RIGHT !!!
YES, the BLM makes MONEY - and they do that by using FEDERAL land for FEDERAL projects. They have this land in which feral cattle are a danger to others and in which they have tried to get this guy to comply for 20+ years and in order to use THEIR land, they have to remove this guys cattle.
What is the BUSTED??
That they actually want to use the land for something useful? Other than a rancher's uses? This land - as you have all said is Public land - you know there is more to the public in NV than ranchers right?
It's all good when a cow is on it but talk about putting a solar farm on it and by God, let's hang em high.
The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Capitalism is capitalism folks.
You do know this is a company from China? Maybe that makes no difference as there's solar farms in California & signs up saying it belongs to China. My folks saw it...so pics...they were shocked!
I say...turn it all into 'public land' in all states...or none of it (excepting what is necesssary for the protection ofour borders). Then we can all be on equal footing...as renters. Lmao...it's a comin!
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| Nevertooold - 2014-04-15 12:52 PM The link that Musicmaker posted, IMO, pretty much nails it with this comment.
What happened in Clark County Nevada struck a nerve with the American people, but the response we saw had very little to do with this particular crisis. There is something much deeper brewing under the surface in the United States. This showdown was just a catalyst.
Yep, think you nailed it. |
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| TXBO - 2014-04-15 1:33 PM Nevertooold - 2014-04-15 12:52 PM The link that Musicmaker posted, IMO, pretty much nails it with this comment.
What happened in Clark County Nevada struck a nerve with the American people, but the response we saw had very little to do with this particular crisis. There is something much deeper brewing under the surface in the United States. This showdown was just a catalyst. Yep, think you nailed it.
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| MusicMaker, run for office. Please. You are always so spot on. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | RidenFly - 2014-04-15 12:39 PM MusicMaker, run for office. Please. You are always so spot on.
Now that's funny! I cuss too much in real life...and not just when I'm drinking...
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-04-15 12:52 PM The link that Musicmaker posted, IMO, pretty much nails it with this comment.
What happened in Clark County Nevada struck a nerve with the American people, but the response we saw had very little to do with this particular crisis. There is something much deeper brewing under the surface in the United States. This showdown was just a catalyst.
That's exactly how I saw it. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | musikmaker - 2014-04-15 1:48 PM
RidenFly - 2014-04-15 12:39 PM MusicMaker, run for office. Please. You are always so spot on.
Now that's funny! I cuss too much in real life...and not just when I'm drinking...
People who cuss are more honest. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | HotbearLVR - 2014-04-15 12:51 PM Nevertooold - 2014-04-15 12:52 PM The link that Musicmaker posted, IMO, pretty much nails it with this comment.
What happened in Clark County Nevada struck a nerve with the American people, but the response we saw had very little to do with this particular crisis. There is something much deeper brewing under the surface in the United States. This showdown was just a catalyst. That's exactly how I saw it.
If the BLM link is still up it clearly shows what we're up against out here...we cannot win in their courts. It also proves the Chinese/Reid connection.
Corrupt, manipulating, self serving bast***. Waging war against Americans is what they're doing...who's the terrorist?
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Here's that link again, share it!
We have more tools available to us today than any time in the history of man...I just don't want to share stuff that's not true or is inciting violence, not that I'm completely opposed to violence because I am a realist (idealistic one?!), rather, I want this fight to be an honest one with an honest outcome.
http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told?utm_source=share-fb
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Location: Online | musikmaker - 2014-04-15 1:38 PM Here's that link again, share it!
We have more tools available to us today than any time in the history of man...I just don't want to share stuff that's not true or is inciting violence, not that I'm completely opposed to violence because I am a realist (idealistic one?!), rather, I want this fight to be an honest one with an honest outcome.
http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told?utm_source=share-fb
Exactly. 
For the nay sayers..... If the government is on the up and up, why was this taken off the BLM website?
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Location: ND | rodeomom13 - 2014-04-15 2:48 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-15 1:38 PM Here's that link again, share it!
We have more tools available to us today than any time in the history of man...I just don't want to share stuff that's not true or is inciting violence, not that I'm completely opposed to violence because I am a realist (idealistic one?!), rather, I want this fight to be an honest one with an honest outcome.
http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told?utm_source=share-fb
although some of these seem like very legitimate concerns and crimes..... |
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Location: Online | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-15 1:56 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-04-15 2:48 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-15 1:38 PM Here's that link again, share it!
We have more tools available to us today than any time in the history of man...I just don't want to share stuff that's not true or is inciting violence, not that I'm completely opposed to violence because I am a realist (idealistic one?!), rather, I want this fight to be an honest one with an honest outcome.
http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told?utm_source=share-fb
Like what? It's considered open range. Meaning the public is responsible to keep the cattle out of their property. If you hit a cow with your car in open range, you are responsible, not the owner of the cow. That's an easy answer.... Build a fence to keep them out.
The other concerns are by environmentalist groups.
The most telling though, is this..
Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the DRY LAKE SOLAR ENERGY ZONE utilizes Gold Butte as the location of offsite mitigation for impacts from SOLAR DEVELOPEMENT, and those restoration activities are not durable with the presense of trespass cattle. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-15 1:56 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-04-15 2:48 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-15 1:38 PM Here's that link again, share it!
We have more tools available to us today than any time in the history of man...I just don't want to share stuff that's not true or is inciting violence, not that I'm completely opposed to violence because I am a realist (idealistic one?!), rather, I want this fight to be an honest one with an honest outcome.
http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told?utm_source=share-fb
Nevada is a 'fence out state'. You're right though about concerns...I was alarmed & concerned about nearly all the 'charges'...most downright silly. |
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| musikmaker - 2014-04-15 12:06 PM smiley - 2014-04-15 11:45 AM Speedy Cowgirl - 2014-04-15 11:13 AM foundation horse - 2014-04-15 11:24 AM WOW! Busted! WOW IS RIGHT !!!
YES, the BLM makes MONEY - and they do that by using FEDERAL land for FEDERAL projects. They have this land in which feral cattle are a danger to others and in which they have tried to get this guy to comply for 20+ years and in order to use THEIR land, they have to remove this guys cattle.
What is the BUSTED??
That they actually want to use the land for something useful? Other than a rancher's uses? This land - as you have all said is Public land - you know there is more to the public in NV than ranchers right?
It's all good when a cow is on it but talk about putting a solar farm on it and by God, let's hang em high.
The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Capitalism is capitalism folks.
I say...turn it all into 'public land' in all states...or none of it (excepting what is necesssary for the protection ofour borders). Then we can all be on equal footing...as renters. Lmao...it's a comin!
Yes, let's make it a free for all, that worked so well before law and order came along |
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| rodeomom13 - 2014-04-15 1:48 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-15 1:38 PM Here's that link again, share it!
We have more tools available to us today than any time in the history of man...I just don't want to share stuff that's not true or is inciting violence, not that I'm completely opposed to violence because I am a realist (idealistic one?!), rather, I want this fight to be an honest one with an honest outcome.
http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told?utm_source=share-fb
First, the ONLY charge they need is that the guy isn't paying.
Second, how is a car being charged by a cow not an issue?
Third, yes, it's a company out of China - that I know of - and? So, it's cool to work in China, send our manufacturing to China, buy at WalMart from China, but HECK no on a solar farm on our land, employing Americans. Heck, we can't have that.
And this page from the BLM proves MY point not yours. I don't know why they took it down, public outcry - consirpiracy theorists. I'm second guessing every "consipiracy" theory I've ever read about now. Why wouldn't Reid want to make use of the land in his state and employ people in his state and provide energy in his state. That bastard.
I'm no fan of any politicians but you guys are making a case that dances around the issue - the cattle do not belong on that land - especially dangerous, feral cattle. The two bulls that were shot were charging officers.
I've never been more thankful for laws and coming from ME that's quite something. |
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| A different and important article to read:
http://www.hcn.org/articles/bundy-tresspass-cattle-stand-off-with-blm-feds?utm_source=wcn1&utm_medium=email
Apparently, the turtle conservancy group bought up the remaining grazing permits that Bundy did not pay for and that is another reason his cattle were supposed to be removed. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | smiley - 2014-04-15 2:43 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-15 12:06 PM smiley - 2014-04-15 11:45 AM Speedy Cowgirl - 2014-04-15 11:13 AM foundation horse - 2014-04-15 11:24 AM WOW! Busted! WOW IS RIGHT !!!
YES, the BLM makes MONEY - and they do that by using FEDERAL land for FEDERAL projects. They have this land in which feral cattle are a danger to others and in which they have tried to get this guy to comply for 20+ years and in order to use THEIR land, they have to remove this guys cattle.
What is the BUSTED??
That they actually want to use the land for something useful? Other than a rancher's uses? This land - as you have all said is Public land - you know there is more to the public in NV than ranchers right?
It's all good when a cow is on it but talk about putting a solar farm on it and by God, let's hang em high.
The hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Capitalism is capitalism folks.
I say...turn it all into 'public land' in all states...or none of it (excepting what is necesssary for the protection ofour borders). Then we can all be on equal footing...as renters. Lmao...it's a comin!
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The BLM is under the umbrella of the Dept. of Interior...the 'public land' was purchased by the United States to be 'disposed' of to the people by way of purchase, patents, homesteading etc...so that individuals could attain to the American Dream...Liberty & the Pusuit of Happiness! Or not. People weren't 'forced' to own land nor were we to be 'prevented' from it. The dept of interior is NOT answerable to the people as they are not part of our gov't as structured in the Constitution...they are separate, a complete different 'branch' that is appointed by the president. They take no oath to protect your rights in any way.
They are not the 'law & order' that keeps America free. Quite the opposite.
How would it be if all the land was 'public'? All that land a few on were was complaining about because it's so expensive...would they really want it be managed by the fed?
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