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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-30 4:06 PM Blueridgedreaming - 2014-04-29 1:52 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 1:25 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 1:08 PM Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2. I wish I could get a map of the stalling area with the stall numbers on it. All I know is I was close to the affected horses but I have no idea how close and since I had 3 horses there I don't know if one was nose to nose or all 3? So far mine are temping ok and seem to be feeling fine. Our weather has been horribly wet, rainy and windy so its not working in our favor. We have a 1 day run on Sunday but the producer was nice enough to rip up my check and draw me out so I could keep mine quarantined a while longer. Mid May can't come soon enough. The affected horses in row T 350/351 were at the alleyway end of the barn where the bathrooms were as you came in from pavillion 3 (warm up arena). I think I read that correctly from the other EHV-1 & BRF post. Please go check that post out as well if you are concerned. B&B has been up fornt and very honest, helpful with everything considering what she is going through.  I was row T also but I believe on the backside of the affected horses but I can't pinpoint exactly which ones of my horses were nose to nose. I guess at this point it doesn't make any difference I was just curious. I was T 345-347. If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps. Barrels&Babies I commend you for being so helpful for others! I  you! Yes. They are both kinda crabby. The mare we lost was a big chestnut mare with no white and has really deep study sounding neigh. She never use to sound like that but her tie back surgery changed her voice. The bay is very antisocial. They would have been sharing blankets. Edition to add I quoted the wrong post. Meant to quote CYAs post asking of they were the crabby ones.
You are so sweet to share your info. I asked 2 or 3 times for a stalling chart to see exactly which one of my horses would be closer and just basically want to know who to watch closer as I had 3 horses ranging in ages. I was told the first time she wasn't able to give me the chart right then and the next couple times I asked I got no response. I was sent an email when you lost Mama that I was "close". Now today I see she posted on Facebook the stalling chart I asked for, for the world to see. I'm not on FB, just get on my sons account to keep checking back for updates on the BRF sight. The kansas horse and your precious girl surrounded me. I have a feeling the next time I haul somewhere I won't have any stall buddies. My horses temps are holding steady and my prayers are holding. I just wish you didn't have to deal with explaining your loss to your little girl. | |
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Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-30 4:06 PM Blueridgedreaming - 2014-04-29 1:52 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 1:25 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 1:08 PM Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2. I wish I could get a map of the stalling area with the stall numbers on it. All I know is I was close to the affected horses but I have no idea how close and since I had 3 horses there I don't know if one was nose to nose or all 3? So far mine are temping ok and seem to be feeling fine. Our weather has been horribly wet, rainy and windy so its not working in our favor. We have a 1 day run on Sunday but the producer was nice enough to rip up my check and draw me out so I could keep mine quarantined a while longer. Mid May can't come soon enough. The affected horses in row T 350/351 were at the alleyway end of the barn where the bathrooms were as you came in from pavillion 3 (warm up arena). I think I read that correctly from the other EHV-1 & BRF post. Please go check that post out as well if you are concerned. B&B has been up fornt and very honest, helpful with everything considering what she is going through.  I was row T also but I believe on the backside of the affected horses but I can't pinpoint exactly which ones of my horses were nose to nose. I guess at this point it doesn't make any difference I was just curious. I was T 345-347. If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps. Barrels&Babies I commend you for being so helpful for others! I  you! Yes. They are both kinda crabby. The mare we lost was a big chestnut mare with no white and has really deep study sounding neigh. She never use to sound like that but her tie back surgery changed her voice. The bay is very antisocial. They would have been sharing blankets. Edition to add I quoted the wrong post. Meant to quote CYAs post asking of they were the crabby ones.
You are so sweet to share your info. I asked 2 or 3 times for a stalling chart to see exactly which one of my horses would be closer and just basically want to know who to watch closer as I had 3 horses ranging in ages. I was told the first time she wasn't able to give me the chart right then and the next couple times I asked I got no response. I was sent an email when you lost Mama that I was "close". Now today I see she posted on Facebook the stalling chart I asked for, for the world to see. I'm not on FB, just get on my sons account to keep checking back for updates on the BRF sight. The kansas horse and your precious girl surrounded me. I have a feeling the next time I haul somewhere I won't have any stall buddies. My horses temps are holding steady and my prayers are holding. I just wish you didn't have to deal with explaining your loss to your little girl.
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Timber Creek - 2014-04-30 5:26 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-30 5:16 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-30 4:06 PM Blueridgedreaming - 2014-04-29 1:52 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 1:25 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 1:08 PM Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2. I wish I could get a map of the stalling area with the stall numbers on it. All I know is I was close to the affected horses but I have no idea how close and since I had 3 horses there I don't know if one was nose to nose or all 3? So far mine are temping ok and seem to be feeling fine. Our weather has been horribly wet, rainy and windy so its not working in our favor. We have a 1 day run on Sunday but the producer was nice enough to rip up my check and draw me out so I could keep mine quarantined a while longer. Mid May can't come soon enough. The affected horses in row T 350/351 were at the alleyway end of the barn where the bathrooms were as you came in from pavillion 3 (warm up arena). I think I read that correctly from the other EHV-1 & BRF post. Please go check that post out as well if you are concerned. B&B has been up fornt and very honest, helpful with everything considering what she is going through.  I was row T also but I believe on the backside of the affected horses but I can't pinpoint exactly which ones of my horses were nose to nose. I guess at this point it doesn't make any difference I was just curious. I was T 345-347. If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps. Barrels&Babies I commend you for being so helpful for others! I  you! Yes. They are both kinda crabby. The mare we lost was a big chestnut mare with no white and has really deep study sounding neigh. She never use to sound like that but her tie back surgery changed her voice. The bay is very antisocial. They would have been sharing blankets. Edition to add I quoted the wrong post. Meant to quote CYAs post asking of they were the crabby ones. You are so sweet to share your info. I asked 2 or 3 times for a stalling chart to see exactly which one of my horses would be closer and just basically want to know who to watch closer as I had 3 horses ranging in ages. I was told the first time she wasn't able to give me the chart right then and the next couple times I asked I got no response. I was sent an email when you lost Mama that I was "close". Now today I see she posted on Facebook the stalling chart I asked for, for the world to see. I'm not on FB, just get on my sons account to keep checking back for updates on the BRF sight. The kansas horse and your precious girl surrounded me. I have a feeling the next time I haul somewhere I won't have any stall buddies. My horses temps are holding steady and my prayers are holding. I just wish you didn't have to deal with explaining your loss to your little girl. I'll still be your stall buddy. 
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    Location: Southern Wisconsin | kwanatha - 2014-04-30 6:42 PM
anybody remember the race around the 2011 scare.Everybody was being real careful with biosecurity measures, then a tornado was coming and all the horses ended up in the arena together?
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| This is my point and where my frustration lies... A few people have mentioned that the risk is minimal.
1.) I do not believe Vets fully understand this virus yet because it is mutated. If you notice, many of the vets are quoting different incubation periods. That to me means there is confusion and a lot unknown yet.
2.) If one more person says that we expose our horses, every time we haul... im gonna hit you with the obvious stick. Because yes, we expose them, however, this strain and this virus is much more dangerous than many things we've encountered and we KNOWINGLY exposing them and this is currently active and is causing deaths. Its a horrible way to see a horse go.
3.) As minimal as it is, do you want to feel responsible if your horse picks the virus up because you refuse to stop hauling. Your horse doesnt get sick but you bring it back and your horse gives it to a little girls horse and that horse gets the symptoms and needs to be eauthanized. Is it worth it?!?!
These may be all what if's. This isnt directed just at the events this weekend but to all future events. I personally would like to show at some point this summer and if everyone else doesnt stop being selfish, we may never get to. Eventually, when enough horses die... they will shut everything down and at that point it may mean the majority of our summer and many lives will have been lost due to poor decision making on our part.
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| stayceem - 2014-04-30 7:06 PM This is my point and where my frustration lies... A few people have mentioned that the risk is minimal. 1.) I do not believe Vets fully understand this virus yet because it is mutated. If you notice, many of the vets are quoting different incubation periods. That to me means there is confusion and a lot unknown yet. 2.) If one more person says that we expose our horses, every time we haul... im gonna hit you with the obvious stick. Because yes, we expose them, however, this strain and this virus is much more dangerous than many things we've encountered and we KNOWINGLY exposing them and this is currently active and is causing deaths. Its a horrible way to see a horse go. 3.) As minimal as it is, do you want to feel responsible if your horse picks the virus up because you refuse to stop hauling. Your horse doesnt get sick but you bring it back and your horse gives it to a little girls horse and that horse gets the symptoms and needs to be eauthanized. Is it worth it?!?! These may be all what if's. This isnt directed just at the events this weekend but to all future events. I personally would like to show at some point this summer and if everyone else doesnt stop being selfish, we may never get to. Eventually, when enough horses die... they will shut everything down and at that point it may mean the majority of our summer and many lives will have been lost due to poor decision making on our part.
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      Location: sunny california | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-30 5:02 PM kwanatha - 2014-04-30 6:42 PM anybody remember the race around the 2011 scare.Everybody was being real careful with biosecurity measures, then a tornado was coming and all the horses ended up in the arena together? Fort Smith keeps coming to mind and I was think that was 2012? I may be totally wrong.
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    Location: stalking Gail... | stayceem - 2014-04-30 6:06 PM
This is my point and where my frustration lies... A few people have mentioned that the risk is minimal.
1.) I do not believe Vets fully understand this virus yet because it is mutated. If you notice, many of the vets are quoting different incubation periods. That to me means there is confusion and a lot unknown yet.
2.) If one more person says that we expose our horses, every time we haul... im gonna hit you with the obvious stick. Because yes, we expose them, however, this strain and this virus is much more dangerous than many things we've encountered and we KNOWINGLY exposing them and this is currently active and is causing deaths. Its a horrible way to see a horse go.
3.) As minimal as it is, do you want to feel responsible if your horse picks the virus up because you refuse to stop hauling. Your horse doesnt get sick but you bring it back and your horse gives it to a little girls horse and that horse gets the symptoms and needs to be eauthanized. Is it worth it?!?!
These may be all what if's. This isnt directed just at the events this weekend but to all future events. I personally would like to show at some point this summer and if everyone else doesnt stop being selfish, we may never get to. Eventually, when enough horses die... they will shut everything down and at that point it may mean the majority of our summer and many lives will have been lost due to poor decision making on our part.
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| stayceem - 2014-04-30 7:06 PM
This is my point and where my frustration lies... A few people have mentioned that the risk is minimal.
1.) I do not believe Vets fully understand this virus yet because it is mutated. If you notice, many of the vets are quoting different incubation periods. That to me means there is confusion and a lot unknown yet.
2.) If one more person says that we expose our horses, every time we haul... im gonna hit you with the obvious stick. Because yes, we expose them, however, this strain and this virus is much more dangerous than many things we've encountered and we KNOWINGLY exposing them and this is currently active and is causing deaths. Its a horrible way to see a horse go.
3.) As minimal as it is, do you want to feel responsible if your horse picks the virus up because you refuse to stop hauling. Your horse doesnt get sick but you bring it back and your horse gives it to a little girls horse and that horse gets the symptoms and needs to be eauthanized. Is it worth it?!?!
These may be all what if's. This isnt directed just at the events this weekend but to all future events. I personally would like to show at some point this summer and if everyone else doesnt stop being selfish, we may never get to. Eventually, when enough horses die... they will shut everything down and at that point it may mean the majority of our summer and many lives will have been lost due to poor decision making on our part.
You say the people hauling are being selfish, but aren't you being selfish for wanting the people hauling to stop.
If people want to haul, there are many safe guards they can put into place to quarantine the horse once it arrives back at home so as you say that little girls horse will not be exposed.
It is known that the virus is spread by droplet, so isolate the horse, do not have other horses within 100 feet. Buckets are segregated, feed is keep separate, and the one on isolation is the last fed footwear is changed before going into the isolated area and after, showed immediately after contact. It is doable.
My question if it is as bad as 2011 why hasn't the state stepped in?
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       Location: relocated to Texas | Just Bring It - 2014-05-01 3:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend! You know, all this says to me is that they KNOW there is a potential problem, but they are going ahead with the show anyway. No responsible horse owner would go to this show after what happened at Lincoln. People are crazy to think that a show is worth risking the life of their horse. I hope they get a poor turnout. Horse owners need to send a message to this producer. IMO this is irresponsible. Especially in light of the fact that they had a back up date. Makes no sense. She asked for additional suggestions. Mine would be to postpone the show and hold it on the backup date. DUH.
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-04-30 7:41 PM
stayceem - 2014-04-30 7:06 PM
This is my point and where my frustration lies... A few people have mentioned that the risk is minimal.
1.) I do not believe Vets fully understand this virus yet because it is mutated. If you notice, many of the vets are quoting different incubation periods. That to me means there is confusion and a lot unknown yet.
2.) If one more person says that we expose our horses, every time we haul... im gonna hit you with the obvious stick. Because yes, we expose them, however, this strain and this virus is much more dangerous than many things we've encountered and we KNOWINGLY exposing them and this is currently active and is causing deaths. Its a horrible way to see a horse go.
3.) As minimal as it is, do you want to feel responsible if your horse picks the virus up because you refuse to stop hauling. Your horse doesnt get sick but you bring it back and your horse gives it to a little girls horse and that horse gets the symptoms and needs to be eauthanized. Is it worth it?!?!
These may be all what if's. This isnt directed just at the events this weekend but to all future events. I personally would like to show at some point this summer and if everyone else doesnt stop being selfish, we may never get to. Eventually, when enough horses die... they will shut everything down and at that point it may mean the majority of our summer and many lives will have been lost due to poor decision making on our part.
You say the people hauling are being selfish, but aren't you being selfish for wanting the people hauling to stop.
If people want to haul, there are many safe guards they can put into place to quarantine the horse once it arrives back at home so as you say that little girls horse will not be exposed.
It is known that the virus is spread by droplet, so isolate the horse, do not have other horses within 100 feet. Buckets are segregated, feed is keep separate, and the one on isolation is the last fed footwear is changed before going into the isolated area and after, showed immediately after contact. It is doable.
My question if it is as bad as 2011 why hasn't the state stepped in?
Yes in a sense I have a selfish motive... but I also explained many unselfish reasons people should stop hauling. I guess if asking for my horses safety is selfish then I guess I am. I would like to show but I love my horse more. If I dont show this season, I'll survive.
Also you state precautions can be made... if they are not taking this precaution what makes them think they will on any other level??? Many of us are at everyone else's mercy.
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | cheryl makofka - 2014-04-30 4:27 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-30 4:25 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend! Hate to break it to them, but there were tarps and disinfectants used in Lincoln. There was a tarp put up between the stalls for the 2nd horse that was euthanized. The tarps may have worked, no one knows where the horse picked up the virus at the event. There are so many variables on the transmission of the virus
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       Location: relocated to Texas | cheryl makofka - 2014-05-01 6:41 PM stayceem - 2014-04-30 7:06 PM This is my point and where my frustration lies... A few people have mentioned that the risk is minimal. 1.) I do not believe Vets fully understand this virus yet because it is mutated. If you notice, many of the vets are quoting different incubation periods. That to me means there is confusion and a lot unknown yet. 2.) If one more person says that we expose our horses, every time we haul... im gonna hit you with the obvious stick. Because yes, we expose them, however, this strain and this virus is much more dangerous than many things we've encountered and we KNOWINGLY exposing them and this is currently active and is causing deaths. Its a horrible way to see a horse go. 3.) As minimal as it is, do you want to feel responsible if your horse picks the virus up because you refuse to stop hauling. Your horse doesnt get sick but you bring it back and your horse gives it to a little girls horse and that horse gets the symptoms and needs to be eauthanized. Is it worth it?!?! These may be all what if's. This isnt directed just at the events this weekend but to all future events. I personally would like to show at some point this summer and if everyone else doesnt stop being selfish, we may never get to. Eventually, when enough horses die... they will shut everything down and at that point it may mean the majority of our summer and many lives will have been lost due to poor decision making on our part. You say the people hauling are being selfish, but aren't you being selfish for wanting the people hauling to stop. If people want to haul, there are many safe guards they can put into place to quarantine the horse once it arrives back at home so as you say that little girls horse will not be exposed. It is known that the virus is spread by droplet, so isolate the horse, do not have other horses within 100 feet. Buckets are segregated, feed is keep separate, and the one on isolation is the last fed footwear is changed before going into the isolated area and after, showed immediately after contact. It is doable. My question if it is as bad as 2011 why hasn't the state stepped in? I cannot believe you are serious with this statement. How is it selfish for wanting people to stay home and give this time to die out? The reason it has not, is because people keep having these shows and people keep hauling their horses to them. Its like playing Russian Roulette with your horse's life. You can take precautions, but you cannot guarnatee that the virus will not be spread. I have been in barns on lockdown because of strangles, all precautions strictly followed and still horses that were not close to the affected horses got it. The virus that we are talking about is DEADLY. I wonder - if it were affecting humans in this way, would people still take the chance? Would people take this type of chance with their own lives? I think not.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend!
Sara, I was just on their FB page and I didn't see this anywhere. Where did you get this? Can you post the link, because I can't find it. On the one hand they want to give an "all clear" message that says it's safe to proceed, but on the other hand they aknowlege this is a serious risk for which a number of precautions ought to be used....empty stalls separating groups of stalls (if possible), tarps, encouraging tie outs, disinfect everything, don't touch other's horses, don't let horses touch each other, etc.... These kinds of precautions aren't typically stressed when there aren't outbreaks, so if it's so safe, why all these safeguards? Obviously the answer is because there is significant risk that needs to be minimized. The next obvious question is if there remains significant risk and the show can be moved back, why not move it back to a time when that risk has waned? Somebody want to help me out here? It's like saying there's no risk of being shot when you are in downtown Baghdad, but wear a bulletproof vest anyway. If there is an outbreak of a deadly, resistant bacterial infection in a community, you take precautions if you have to work in that hospital, and that will minimize risk to a certain extent, but the best way to minimize risk is to stay the hell out of the hospital. Same thing here. | |
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   Location: WI | HotbearLVR - 2014-04-30 9:11 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-30 4:02 PM R4R fb announcement:
EHV-1: Throughout the 2014 outbreak we have been in contact with multiple veterinarians as well as carefully monitored the University of Minnesota and the MN Board of Animal Health websites. There is a lot of good information regarding biosecurity and precautions that should be taken to help spread ANY disease among our equine population. Please refer to their websites for up to date and accurate information. For our event at Red Horse, we will ask that you follow their recommendations…. Disinfect tack before use, don’t share tack or buckets, limit nose to nose contact with other horses, and limit the number of horses in the warm up areas. Although campsites are assigned, we can move folks around if they want to tie out at their trailers during the day. Feel free to bring tarps if you’d like to hang them between your stall and your neighbor. We prefer that you use zip ties but if you use duct tape, please remove it before you leave. We have already put “stall buddies” together that may represent friends, family and traveling groups. We will do what we can to have an empty stall here and there to give folks a bit more space. There will also be disinfectant solution throughout the barns for folks to use. Although we are beyond the 2-14 day incubation period for the Lincoln, Nebraska event, we recognize that continued diligence is important. There have been and continue to be, a large number of equine events throughout our area. It appears barrel horses have been more affected this year and we want to make sure we take extra precautions. If you have additional suggestions, please feel free to message or call me at xxx-xxx-xxxx. Thank you and looking forward to a great weekend! Sara, I was just on their FB page and I didn't see this anywhere. Where did you get this? Can you post the link, because I can't find it. On the one hand they want to give an "all clear" message that says it's safe to proceed, but on the other hand they aknowlege this is a serious risk for which a number of precautions ought to be used....empty stalls separating groups of stalls (if possible), tarps, encouraging tie outs, disinfect everything, don't touch other's horses, don't let horses touch each other, etc.... These kinds of precautions aren't typically stressed when there aren't outbreaks, so if it's so safe, why all these safeguards? Obviously the answer is because there is significant risk that needs to be minimized. The next obvious question is if there remains significant risk and the show can be moved back, why not move it back to a time when that risk has waned? Somebody want to help me out here? It's like saying there's no risk of being shot when you are in downtown Baghdad, but wear a bulletproof vest anyway.
If there is an outbreak of a deadly, resistant bacterial infection in a community, you take precautions if you have to work in that hospital, and that will minimize risk to a certain extent, but the best way to minimize risk is to stay the hell out of the hospital. Same thing here.
Scott, they can't reschedule. I was entered and Verna was nothing but uber-helpful in selling my spots. | |
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     Location: Wisconsin | i have opted to sell my derby slot this weekend. Personal choice. However want to let peeps know I may enter Rapid City! Im from Wisconsin and traveling with a Minnesotan..Please dont treat us like leppers and I havent been off the place since November 15th!! nor has anyone come to ride at my place in 3 months!! you wanna talk stir crazy???? | |
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     Location: Wisconsin | chuckie31 - 2014-04-29 10:54 PM
*** The following is a statement from the owner of the most recent POSITIVE EHV-1 case in Kansas (This horse attended the BRF in Lincoln, NE). Our deepest sympathies and appreciation for sharing your story with us all >>>
"Thank you Kim Tatum for bringing such joy in our lives. Hank had been to the brf in Lincoln. He came home and had not been to another race. He showed no signs of any kind until the morning of the 23rd when I noticed he was walking a little funny. That afternoon he lost control of his hind limbs and was down. He was put down on the 24th. He was one of a kind and will be greatly missed. I want to come forward with this information NOW THAT IT IS OFFICIAL to dispel any myths or rumors. This virus can be spread by healthy horses, airborne, or direct contact from people or horses. All of the other horses at my barn are fine.
All horses at brf were potentially exposed as we don’t know where the virus came from. We had an autopsy performed and it came back on 4/29 for EHV-1 the wild non-neurogenic strain. There are several strains of EHV-1 including respiratory and neuro strains. Horses can have a fever of above 101 and carry the virus. If your horse has a fever over 101 blood and nasal secretions can be taken at this time and tested for EHV-1. It is my understanding UC Davis will run these tests at no charge in hopes of understanding the mutation of this virus. As always PLEASE VERIFY this with your vet."
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       Location: Kansas | kwanatha - 2014-04-30 6:42 PM anybody remember the race around the 2011 scare.Everybody was being real careful with biosecurity measures, then a tornado was coming and all the horses ended up in the arena together?
I think that was Kansas NBHA state show. A lot of the horses that didn't have stalls wound up tied to stalls, turned loose in empty ones or tied in the warmup pen while people and dogs took shelter in the main expocentre basement. | |
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