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Location: Deep South | It flusters me that everyone keeps referring to Latte as "crippled" and "lame." And that they just CAN'T believe a lame/crippled gelding sold for this amount. Do you know how MINOR of an injury a horse has to have for a vet to not be able to pass it on a vet check??? Not to mention how completely common it is for horses of his caliber to have injuries! They comeback from them 100% all the time.
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| ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM
Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed!
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed!
Bottom line. There was a contract, Party A didn't honor contract, when you dont' pay for something that's stealing. That's being a crook. I'm pretty sure I saw something similar on Judge Wapner. |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:10 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid.
Oh my hell. How about we stop twisting other peoples words. We get you are defending your friend, but nobody knows all of the details, NOBODY! |
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| Red Raider - 2014-03-28 11:58 AM
dhdqhllc - 2014-03-28 11:26 AM TxBronc - 2014-03-28 11:18 AM Ashley Lynn - 2014-03-28 11:15 AM I am having a hard time believing any of this. NO business minded individual would pay this much money for a GELDING that is currently injured, I WOULD HOPE! Even if he has a fantastic career ahead of him and wins the world 5 more times, he will NEVER win that money back. I believe fully in the sale, however I think the price was a serious case of GRANDSTANDING. I know what Stitch brought when he was sold as a sound horse with more world titles under his belt, it was no where near 850k!!! Don't you get it? Apparently all that is basically paid for him is 85k, some court costs and lawyers costs. And then I guess down the road there may be a separate judgement
Going the route of using a Motion for Summary Judgment to kill some of the issues helped in keeping those costs down. I think the bigger fight is going to be on the issue of what's considered "winnings" under the contract and the value of any endorsements, sponsor contracts, etc. that might be involved in all of that. Those will be more fact issues than law so it's going to be more litigated if there is no agreement on how those figures will be reached. At that point in time, one party may ask that a jury decide what that should be and this could end up in a jury trial -- which costs quite a bit more moneywise. If not, it would be up to the judge to calculate those figures and award money based on the contract. Â
Thank you finally someone that gets it. No one has won or lost as to date. The big battle is over just what is winnings. There are two suits brought by both parties and neither have been resolved. Todays action really only established the pot of money to argue over. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:14 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:10 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid.
What are you talking about? I have seen the contract is all I know, not defending a friend. |
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| ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 11:57 AM Haters will be haters! Mary Walker kept Latte! And by the looks of my Facebook feed, still has MANY fans!
I am not a hater the haters seem to be on facebook going on about the other party. The name calling, hoping she will get her karma wow. If a person is in the wrong they should not be rewarded for it just my opinoin. This is waht is wrong with our world today people arent being accountable for wrong doing to many feelings being used to judge a situation. |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM
ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed!
Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid. Â
They had a binding contract that the Walkers were in breach of hence the breach of contract lawsuit that forced the sale of Latte.The only thing in dispute is how to calculate Cheri's percentage of the endorsements, etc that are not tangible numbers. The Walkers did not pay her the 10% of the winnings much less the endorsements. Cheri has tried to settle this for a long time and get the Walkers to honor the contract, long before Mary had big endorsements. Court was her last resort. |
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Location: My Own Little World | I think that all of this is out there to just show an example to everyone that reads:
1. There are 3 sides to a story.... Side A, Side B, and what God sees as the REAL truth.
Humans like to feel OUR side is ALWAYS the right side.
2. Mixing money & friendship is DANGEROUS
3. When 2 parties enter into a contract BOTH parties need to inquire of each other about more than
the words written on the paper. The spirit in which the contract is written means as much as the
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4. No matter how upset you are, your reputation and integrity are the only things people will see.
Now, all that being said; this situation has been awful for both sides as they were friends and partners before. Both parties have enjoyed the fame that has come to them through the career of an amazing horse. And as far as I'm concerned, this blessing God bestowed upon them has not been used to glorify Him who gave them the opportunity. I do not claim to support either side, as I was not present for 100 % of EVERY interaction they had with each other from day one; therefore, I am not entitled an opinion of any kind on the matter and for that same reason is why it will take the courts a long time to sort it out. A judge has to sift through all the information and make a decision that will not truly satisfy either side. I say that what folks need to do is quit speculating, taking "sides" and just pray that this can be solved peacefully while retaining the dignity and reputation of all involved.
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:16 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:14 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:10 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid.
And where did you see the contract? People dont just flash those around. |
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Location: That part of Texas | jbhoot - 2014-03-28 12:16 PM Thank you finally someone that gets it. No one has won or lost as to date. The big battle is over just what is winnings. There are two suits brought by both parties and neither have been resolved. Todays action really only established the pot of money to argue over.
Yeah, there's still quite a bit to go before it's all going to be over. This case is interesting because not only does it put a value to a horse of this nature (that's being publically disclosed in a way) but it may also set a precedent on how winnings, sponsorships and endorsements are valued too. That being said, I may be wrong on those issues being litigated because a value may have already been placed on a bunch of that through tax returns and paperwork of that nature. If not or if those figures are contested, that could be opening a whole can of worms for anybody making a living as a professional in the rodeo world. I think a bunch of people have an interest in how this case is being played out and it has nothing to do with the actual people and horse involved. |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:19 PM
ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:16 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:14 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:10 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid. Â
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Location: OREGON | geronabean - 2014-03-28 9:31 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-28 12:29 PM So IF King George wasn't there than who was the hotty that looked like him? Clone?
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | jbhoot - 2014-03-28 12:23 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:19 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:16 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:14 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:10 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid. Bingo!!
Its public record. Hunt Ct. Lots have people have seen it. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | runsupport - 2014-03-28 12:59 PM
Herbie - 2014-03-28 9:37 AM
Not buying it. Justin Boots is a publicly traded company owned by a conglomerate known as Berkshire Hathaway, which is owned by Warren Buffett. I don't think Justin Boots has that kind of "power" to stand alone as a company or make those decisions.Â
Warren Buffett can do and pay whatever he wants and use whatever company he owns to do it. JMHO
Do your research on which Justin boots. There is also a Discount Justin boots that is totally separate and mentioned on Mary's FB page. |
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| ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:26 PM
jbhoot - 2014-03-28 12:23 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:19 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:16 PM Whiteboy - 2014-03-28 12:14 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:10 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-03-28 12:09 PM ridinbygrace - 2014-03-28 12:06 PM Please don't imply that I'm a "crook" or support a "crook"! I like and support Mary Walker as a competitor. I truly believe that neither side is innocent, however I also believe that the entire truth has yet to be revealed! Just curious why do you think the "other" side is guilty of something? I keep seeing this. You think she should have just ignored the contract that THEY drew up. Why is she guilty of anything? The ones that didn't pay up would be guilty, not the person that wasn't paid.  Bingo!!
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Location: North Dakota | 3canstorun - 2014-03-28 12:26 PM runsupport - 2014-03-28 12:59 PM Herbie - 2014-03-28 9:37 AM Not buying it. Justin Boots is a publicly traded company owned by a conglomerate known as Berkshire Hathaway, which is owned by Warren Buffett. I don't think Justin Boots has that kind of "power" to stand alone as a company or make those decisions. Warren Buffett can do and pay whatever he wants and use whatever company he owns to do it. JMHO Do your research on which Justin boots. There is also a Discount Justin boots that is totally separate and mentioned on Mary's FB page.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Just Bring It - 2014-03-28 12:34 PM 3canstorun - 2014-03-28 12:26 PM runsupport - 2014-03-28 12:59 PM Herbie - 2014-03-28 9:37 AM Not buying it. Justin Boots is a publicly traded company owned by a conglomerate known as Berkshire Hathaway, which is owned by Warren Buffett. I don't think Justin Boots has that kind of "power" to stand alone as a company or make those decisions. Warren Buffett can do and pay whatever he wants and use whatever company he owns to do it. JMHO Do your research on which Justin boots. There is also a Discount Justin boots that is totally separate and mentioned on Mary's FB page.
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