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Location: 'Hawk Country | Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-16 10:15 PM Keep in mind PRCA/WPRA is a unique "sport" in the way players are funneled to the finals. So to compare to other sports isn't just apples and oranges. It is more like apples and fire wood.
One of the cool things about rodeo is that every kid can grow up with the dream and a realistic shot. Not so much for NASCAR, NFL , etc.... I am all about building a better customer base. But, even on BHW there is a thread with people wondering who Joe Beaver is.......
Heck we lost the Bull Fight tour years ago because of lack of sponsor money. And believe me there has been plenty of work done to bring it back.
Moving to FL or any place else is not going to magically fix these issues. PRCA is doing a much better job of marketing but they have a ways to go. And the WPRA couldn't even get current results up on their web site.
I would LOVE to see both orgaizations spend more time in promoting the local rodeo. Help get the citizens in the seats. Talk to the kids about how to get started in rodeo. We are not getting new members by the numbers we need to sustain. The PRCA should be paying a retired Gold buckle member to go out and promote. Kids need to meet the heros of our sport. I was 9 years old when I met Martha Josey. It blew my mind and made such a hugh impression. And to hear her story made me believe anything was possible.
Hopefully the talking heads at PRCA are smarter about this than the last time they decided to become a "Sports" venue and not rodeo. As I stated before it darned near was the end of the PRCA.
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Karen, you said pretty much the same thing I did yesterday.... ~~I just know that it does not rank with other professional sports. (I believe they are all getting paid way too much to play a game!!!) Those of us who rodeo, or follow it even if we don't, are a small number compared to the world. If Tuf Cooper, Kevin Durant and Tom Brady walk down the street together, almost everyone will know Kevin and Tom. Most won't know Tuf. Older guys, Michael Jordon, Brett Farve, and Joe Beaver. Who are people going to recognize? That is why it is so hard to sell to people outside rodeo. I wish everyone in the world loved rodeo as much as they do baseball, soccer, basketball, football or hockey. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2013-12-17 9:22 AM Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the fans will hold any sway over PRCA's decision...and I doubt LVE is banking on that again JM uneducated O
Some comments from PRCA members support your inference.
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| justcruzin - 2013-12-17 9:26 AM Sounds to me like the LVE has already made up their mind, goodbye NFR, hello to something new. 
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-17 10:39 AM COWBOY STADIUM ... ARLINGTON TX ... Center of the country and easy to get to ...
I do know that during the time frame of the NFR, they are also having the NCHA Futurity and finals in Ft. Worth.
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Location: Midwest | TXBO - 2013-12-17 9:44 AM barrelracr131 - 2013-12-17 9:22 AM Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the fans will hold any sway over PRCA's decision...and I doubt LVE is banking on that again JM uneducated O Some comments from PRCA members support your inference.
If you're right, they're committing business suicide.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 9:45 AM Oops! My mistake! I thought NBC/Comcast/Disney were all under the same tent. So it's ABC/Disney?
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Location: 'Hawk Country | kboltwkreations - 2013-12-17 8:24 AM
Of course Im sure the PRCA will have stipultations on them that they cannot compete in both... There have already been talks of the NFR card.
This will get them sued. It's already happened once. "The Right to Work"....
Pretty sure there is at least one lawyer just waiting for the chance.
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Location: Who knows | Come on Nashville, TN, put in a bid! I'd love to see it there. I'd be packing my bags...Nashvegas, here I come! (Yes, they call it that) 
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | TXBO - 2013-12-17 7:46 AM justcruzin - 2013-12-17 9:26 AM Sounds to me like the LVE has already made up their mind, goodbye NFR, hello to something new.
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Location: Where I am happiest | BARRELHORSE USA - 2013-12-17 9:39 AM COWBOY STADIUM ... ARLINGTON TX ... Center of the country and easy to get to ...
How on earth do you figure Texas, the very bottom south end of the entire US is "The center of the country"??? Actually Kansas and Mo. is about as "central" as one can get. |
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2013-12-17 9:53 AM
kboltwkreations - 2013-12-17 8:24 AM
Of course Im sure the PRCA will have stipultations on them that they cannot compete in both... There have already been talks of the NFR card.
This will get them sued. It's already happened once. "The Right to Work"....
Pretty sure there is at least one lawyer just waiting for the chance.
Ya, I just mentioned this on the last page. That's what I was thinkin. I think people used to enter ammys under fake names and when they got caught the would get put on the suspension list for awhile! Lol |
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| BigSkyDream - 2013-12-17 9:54 AM
Come on Nashville, TN, put in a bid! I'd love to see it there. I'd be packing my bags...Nashvegas, here I come! (Yes, they call it that )
I live in texas so I would like to see it in Dallas. But I also think Nashville would be a cool place to host it!  |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | BigSkyDream - 2013-12-17 9:54 AM Come on Nashville, TN, put in a bid! I'd love to see it there. I'd be packing my bags...Nashvegas, here I come! (Yes, they call it that )
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-17 9:47 AM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 9:45 AM Oops! My mistake! I thought NBC/Comcast/Disney were all under the same tent. So it's ABC/Disney? That would be correct Dr Hotty Pants
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | So, Arlington Texas is the "center of the country"? Spoken like a true Texan! Good for you! LOL |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ozcancrasher13 - 2013-12-17 9:40 AM Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-16 10:15 PM Keep in mind PRCA/WPRA is a unique "sport" in the way players are funneled to the finals. So to compare to other sports isn't just apples and oranges. It is more like apples and fire wood.
One of the cool things about rodeo is that every kid can grow up with the dream and a realistic shot. Not so much for NASCAR, NFL , etc.... I am all about building a better customer base. But, even on BHW there is a thread with people wondering who Joe Beaver is.......
Heck we lost the Bull Fight tour years ago because of lack of sponsor money. And believe me there has been plenty of work done to bring it back.
Moving to FL or any place else is not going to magically fix these issues. PRCA is doing a much better job of marketing but they have a ways to go. And the WPRA couldn't even get current results up on their web site.
I would LOVE to see both orgaizations spend more time in promoting the local rodeo. Help get the citizens in the seats. Talk to the kids about how to get started in rodeo. We are not getting new members by the numbers we need to sustain. The PRCA should be paying a retired Gold buckle member to go out and promote. Kids need to meet the heros of our sport. I was 9 years old when I met Martha Josey. It blew my mind and made such a hugh impression. And to hear her story made me believe anything was possible.
Hopefully the talking heads at PRCA are smarter about this than the last time they decided to become a "Sports" venue and not rodeo. As I stated before it darned near was the end of the PRCA.
karen Karen, you said pretty much the same thing I did yesterday....
~~I just know that it does not rank with other professional sports. (I believe they are all getting paid way too much to play a game!!!) Those of us who rodeo, or follow it even if we don't, are a small number compared to the world.
If Tuf Cooper, Kevin Durant and Tom Brady walk down the street together, almost everyone will know Kevin and Tom. Most won't know Tuf.
Older guys, Michael Jordon, Brett Farve, and Joe Beaver. Who are people going to recognize?
That is why it is so hard to sell to people outside rodeo. I wish everyone in the world loved rodeo as much as they do baseball, soccer, basketball, football or hockey.
I don't look at it from the standpoint that pro athletes in big sports "make too much money". They earn what the market dictates. We can sit here and say "I wish more people loved rodeo as much as they love football, baseball, etc..." or pro rodeo can wise up and come up with a more aggressive long range plan to capture a larger audience. Many ideas have emerged right here on this board, so we can hope that the experts and people in control can get it done. None of us expects an equivalent of a Micheal Jordan or A-Rod to emerge, but it's reasonable to expect a substantial improvement over the status quo. As far as I can tell, pro rodeo has been floundering for a long time. The term "professional" is, for the most part, a misnomer.
I just looked up the average salary of a circus clown: $38,000. Come on!!! Over 99% of so-called "pro rodeo" competitors don't earn that in a year. You can't tell me this can't be improved on substantially! |
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| HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 10:05 AM
So, Arlington Texas is the "center of the country"? Spoken like a true Texan! Good for you! LOL
Uhhh, that would be center of the world!
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Location: Where I am happiest | People like to gamble. Look how much money the casino's all across the US take in. Horse racing does well because of the wagering. People who are far removed from horses follow racing because of the gambling.Because of the gambling, it feeds the purses. IF they started wagering on the rodeo's and cowboys, alot more people would follow it. Thus growing a much bigger and broader fan base. |
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Location: Arizona | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 9:08 AM ozcancrasher13 - 2013-12-17 9:40 AM Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-16 10:15 PM Keep in mind PRCA/WPRA is a unique "sport" in the way players are funneled to the finals. So to compare to other sports isn't just apples and oranges. It is more like apples and fire wood.
One of the cool things about rodeo is that every kid can grow up with the dream and a realistic shot. Not so much for NASCAR, NFL , etc.... I am all about building a better customer base. But, even on BHW there is a thread with people wondering who Joe Beaver is.......
Heck we lost the Bull Fight tour years ago because of lack of sponsor money. And believe me there has been plenty of work done to bring it back.
Moving to FL or any place else is not going to magically fix these issues. PRCA is doing a much better job of marketing but they have a ways to go. And the WPRA couldn't even get current results up on their web site.
I would LOVE to see both orgaizations spend more time in promoting the local rodeo. Help get the citizens in the seats. Talk to the kids about how to get started in rodeo. We are not getting new members by the numbers we need to sustain. The PRCA should be paying a retired Gold buckle member to go out and promote. Kids need to meet the heros of our sport. I was 9 years old when I met Martha Josey. It blew my mind and made such a hugh impression. And to hear her story made me believe anything was possible.
Hopefully the talking heads at PRCA are smarter about this than the last time they decided to become a "Sports" venue and not rodeo. As I stated before it darned near was the end of the PRCA.
karen Karen, you said pretty much the same thing I did yesterday....
~~I just know that it does not rank with other professional sports. (I believe they are all getting paid way too much to play a game!!!) Those of us who rodeo, or follow it even if we don't, are a small number compared to the world.
If Tuf Cooper, Kevin Durant and Tom Brady walk down the street together, almost everyone will know Kevin and Tom. Most won't know Tuf.
Older guys, Michael Jordon, Brett Farve, and Joe Beaver. Who are people going to recognize?
That is why it is so hard to sell to people outside rodeo. I wish everyone in the world loved rodeo as much as they do baseball, soccer, basketball, football or hockey.
I don't look at it from the standpoint that pro athletes in big sports "make too much money". They earn what the market dictates. We can sit here and say "I wish more people loved rodeo as much as they love football, baseball, etc..." or pro rodeo can wise up and come up with a more aggressive long range plan to capture a larger audience. Many ideas have emerged right here on this board, so we can hope that the experts and people in control can get it done. None of us expects an equivalent of a Micheal Jordan or A-Rod to emerge, but it's reasonable to expect a substantial improvement over the status quo. As far as I can tell, pro rodeo has been floundering for a long time. The term "professional" is, for the most part, a misnomer.
I just looked up the average salary of a circus clown: $38,000. Come on!!! Over 99% of so-called "pro rodeo" competitors don't earn that in a year. You can't tell me this can't be improved on substantially! |
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