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GLP Reg. Oct 2013	Posted 2015-02-10 8:41 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
I just read the headlines Posts: 4483	Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject.
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3canstorun Reg. May 2007	Posted 2015-02-10 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Hugs to You Posts: 7551 Location: In The Land of Cotton	Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-10 9:14 AM I've got to buy feed today and am still confused about what to do. I obviously don't need to continue with ADM, but I don't like my other choices, which are Purina and Nutrena. I can get clean local oats and alfalfa pellets for the younger horses, but that doesn't help me with the oldies. I went to oats, alfalfa pellets and rice bran for my oldie. Meant to say soaked cubes, I put hot water on them, feed the others then the oldie last so they are soaked up. Edited by 3canstorun 2015-02-10 8:53 AM
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wyoming barrel racer Reg. Apr 2006	Posted 2015-02-10 8:53 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Neat Freak Posts: 11216 Location: Wonderful Wyoming	GLP - 2015-02-10 7:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject. I just got off the phone with ADM. Horse feed out of Quincy Ill is made on a totally seperate line, across the street from the other feeds. This is the GLO products that I feed, I didn't ask about the others. The bags will have a QW on the tag if they come from that mill. They also stated that they are having meetings etc and working towards a goal to keep the horse feed milled separate from medicated feeds. I have read pages and pages of these posts and if you were to do more research and look back through the yrs, there are several incidents of other companies listed in this post having an issue from this or that. If you have a question about your particular feed, call the company and get first hand answers (I was not talking to someone that was reading their response off a paper either) to your questions. If I can't get quality grain, I won't feed any at all. I live in an area where it is really hard to find any good brands. I'm not sure what I will do about ADM myself. Knowing my feed is from a safe mill and that they ARE going about making changes for the consumer does make me feel better about the company.
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3canstorun Reg. May 2007	Posted 2015-02-10 8:56 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Hugs to You Posts: 7551 Location: In The Land of Cotton	wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:53 AM GLP - 2015-02-10 7:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject. I just got off the phone with ADM. Horse feed out of Quincy Ill is made on a totally seperate line, across the street from the other feeds. This is the GLO products that I feed, I didn't ask about the others. The bags will have a QW on the tag if they come from that mill. They also stated that they are having meetings etc and working towards a goal to keep the horse feed milled separate from medicated feeds. I have read pages and pages of these posts and if you were to do more research and look back through the yrs, there are several incidents of other companies listed in this post having an issue from this or that. If you have a question about your particular feed, call the company and get first hand answers (I was not talking to someone that was reading their response off a paper either) to your questions. If I can't get quality grain, I won't feed any at all. I live in an area where it is really hard to find any good brands. I'm not sure what I will do about ADM myself. Knowing my feed is from a safe mill and that they ARE going about making changes for the consumer does make me feel better about the company. Hate to be ugly, but if you talked to Jason Hartley or Sandy Chatten, they are blowing smoke up your a......... about making separate processing lines everywhere. Don't act like we are all over reacting. Come to my home like ADM did and see the damage yourself. And the reason I think my horses did not react so badly was because of the THE that you sell. Nothing personal, but this is happening way too much. I don't care if you have a $100 horse or a $500K horse, no horse needs to die because processors are using items in their mills that kill horses. Edited by 3canstorun 2015-02-10 8:59 AM
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GLP Reg. Oct 2013	Posted 2015-02-10 8:59 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
I just read the headlines Posts: 4483	3canstorun - 2015-02-10 8:56 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:53 AM GLP - 2015-02-10 7:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject. I just got off the phone with ADM. Horse feed out of Quincy Ill is made on a totally seperate line, across the street from the other feeds. This is the GLO products that I feed, I didn't ask about the others. The bags will have a QW on the tag if they come from that mill. They also stated that they are having meetings etc and working towards a goal to keep the horse feed milled separate from medicated feeds. I have read pages and pages of these posts and if you were to do more research and look back through the yrs, there are several incidents of other companies listed in this post having an issue from this or that. If you have a question about your particular feed, call the company and get first hand answers (I was not talking to someone that was reading their response off a paper either) to your questions. If I can't get quality grain, I won't feed any at all. I live in an area where it is really hard to find any good brands. I'm not sure what I will do about ADM myself. Knowing my feed is from a safe mill and that they ARE going about making changes for the consumer does make me feel better about the company. Hate to be ugly, but if you talked to Jason Hartley or Sandy Chatten, they are blowing smoke up your a......... about making separate processing lines everywhere. Don't act like we are all over reacting. Come to my home like ADM did and see the damage yourself. I contacted Manna Pro and talked to Leann Meyer. On my bag of Max E Glo, it has Manna Pro as the maker. Is Manna Pro part of the ADM family? I am second guessing myself now.
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wyoming barrel racer Reg. Apr 2006	Posted 2015-02-10 9:15 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Neat Freak Posts: 11216 Location: Wonderful Wyoming	3canstorun - 2015-02-10 7:56 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:53 AM GLP - 2015-02-10 7:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject. I just got off the phone with ADM. Horse feed out of Quincy Ill is made on a totally seperate line, across the street from the other feeds. This is the GLO products that I feed, I didn't ask about the others. The bags will have a QW on the tag if they come from that mill. They also stated that they are having meetings etc and working towards a goal to keep the horse feed milled separate from medicated feeds. I have read pages and pages of these posts and if you were to do more research and look back through the yrs, there are several incidents of other companies listed in this post having an issue from this or that. If you have a question about your particular feed, call the company and get first hand answers (I was not talking to someone that was reading their response off a paper either) to your questions. If I can't get quality grain, I won't feed any at all. I live in an area where it is really hard to find any good brands. I'm not sure what I will do about ADM myself. Knowing my feed is from a safe mill and that they ARE going about making changes for the consumer does make me feel better about the company. Hate to be ugly, but if you talked to Jason Hartley or Sandy Chatten, they are blowing smoke up your a......... about making separate processing lines everywhere. Don't act like we are all over reacting. Come to my home like ADM did and see the damage yourself. And the reason I think my horses did not react so badly was because of the THE that you sell. Nothing personal, but this is happening way too much. I don't care if you have a $100 horse or a $500K horse, no horse needs to die because processors are using items in their mills that kill horses. I don't think anyone is over reacting, not at all. I just know that a lot of companies have had issues in the past. Mold alone can kill one and Purina is the worst one I have found for that, so that rules out that brand for me. Very few that I trust to use, and the ones that are safe, I either don't like the feed or can't get it here. It wasn't Jason, as I most certainly didn't want to talk to him and also it wasn't that woman's name that you listed. Now I wish I had written it down. I do kind of doubt they are lying about seperate lines as anyone and their brother could stop by and see for themselves. I only asked about the GLO line and the particular facility where my feed came from, so the others I have no idea where they are made or what city/state. She openly admitted that the other mills just run a non medicated feed through before they make the horse feed. It has measures that are supposed to be made to clean it between, but we all know that can be botched. Fantastic about THE helping, I had do idea. I couldn't imagine losing a horse like that. I had one develope laminitis like no body's business and he was on Total Equine at the time. Sounds like that feed was/is safe though.
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wyoming barrel racer Reg. Apr 2006	Posted 2015-02-10 9:17 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Neat Freak Posts: 11216 Location: Wonderful Wyoming	GLP - 2015-02-10 7:59 AM 3canstorun - 2015-02-10 8:56 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:53 AM GLP - 2015-02-10 7:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject. I just got off the phone with ADM. Horse feed out of Quincy Ill is made on a totally seperate line, across the street from the other feeds. This is the GLO products that I feed, I didn't ask about the others. The bags will have a QW on the tag if they come from that mill. They also stated that they are having meetings etc and working towards a goal to keep the horse feed milled separate from medicated feeds. I have read pages and pages of these posts and if you were to do more research and look back through the yrs, there are several incidents of other companies listed in this post having an issue from this or that. If you have a question about your particular feed, call the company and get first hand answers (I was not talking to someone that was reading their response off a paper either) to your questions. If I can't get quality grain, I won't feed any at all. I live in an area where it is really hard to find any good brands. I'm not sure what I will do about ADM myself. Knowing my feed is from a safe mill and that they ARE going about making changes for the consumer does make me feel better about the company. Hate to be ugly, but if you talked to Jason Hartley or Sandy Chatten, they are blowing smoke up your a......... about making separate processing lines everywhere. Don't act like we are all over reacting. Come to my home like ADM did and see the damage yourself. I contacted Manna Pro and talked to Leann Meyer. On my bag of Max E Glo, it has Manna Pro as the maker. Is Manna Pro part of the ADM family? I am second guessing myself now. Pretty sure they are not the same company. Info listed on both sites differs.
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TurnLane Reg. May 2007	Posted 2015-02-10 9:18 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Pork Fat is my Favorite Posts: 3791 Location: The Oklahoma plains.	GLP - 2015-02-10 8:59 AM 3canstorun - 2015-02-10 8:56 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:53 AM GLP - 2015-02-10 7:41 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:22 AM I will support the brands (purina is one) that has a free zone.. period.. I agree, if we don't support them, then the other feed producers have no reason to change. Purina isn't my favorite, but I have never had a problem with their senior feed, thank goodness, since I am currently feeding it to our old mare. I just want to add that I contacted Max E Glo producers and was told that they don't use ionophores where it is made. Standlee hay products are also clear too. So now I just need to find a new vitamin/mineral since I was feeding GroStrong. I also want to thank everyone who has taken the time to inform and educate us on this very important subject. I just got off the phone with ADM. Horse feed out of Quincy Ill is made on a totally seperate line, across the street from the other feeds. This is the GLO products that I feed, I didn't ask about the others. The bags will have a QW on the tag if they come from that mill. They also stated that they are having meetings etc and working towards a goal to keep the horse feed milled separate from medicated feeds. I have read pages and pages of these posts and if you were to do more research and look back through the yrs, there are several incidents of other companies listed in this post having an issue from this or that. If you have a question about your particular feed, call the company and get first hand answers (I was not talking to someone that was reading their response off a paper either) to your questions. If I can't get quality grain, I won't feed any at all. I live in an area where it is really hard to find any good brands. I'm not sure what I will do about ADM myself. Knowing my feed is from a safe mill and that they ARE going about making changes for the consumer does make me feel better about the company. Hate to be ugly, but if you talked to Jason Hartley or Sandy Chatten, they are blowing smoke up your a......... about making separate processing lines everywhere. Don't act like we are all over reacting. Come to my home like ADM did and see the damage yourself. I contacted Manna Pro and talked to Leann Meyer. On my bag of Max E Glo, it has Manna Pro as the maker. Is Manna Pro part of the ADM family? I am second guessing myself now. I dont think Manna Pro is part of the ADM family. I think it gets confusing on the glo products as far as names and who makes them.
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GLP Reg. Oct 2013	Posted 2015-02-10 9:23 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
I just read the headlines Posts: 4483	Thanks, that is what I was thinking, but this is just not something I want to be casual aboutl
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Bibliafarm Reg. Jul 2008	Posted 2015-02-10 9:29 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Warmblood with Wings Posts: 27846 Location: Florida..	Mold is not the same as a company knowingly using medicated toxins that can kill a horse and damage a horses heart and yet doesnt make changes.. mold could be the feed store, could be the owners fault, could be many things contributing.. THIS issue is the feed companys lack of care..
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Three 4 Luck Reg. Sep 2003	Posted 2015-02-10 9:30 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Accident Prone Posts: 22277 Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR	want2chase3 - 2015-02-10 8:37 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-10 8:14 AM I've got to buy feed today and am still confused about what to do. I obviously don't need to continue with ADM, but I don't like my other choices, which are Purina and Nutrena. I can get clean local oats and alfalfa pellets for the younger horses, but that doesn't help me with the oldies. What about feeding the oats and alfalfa pellets and adding in a vit/min supplement geared towards seniors? Teeth are the problem. The 27 year old has teeth missing. I can soak cubes for him, but he needs more calories. I normally feed him and the other older horse Patriot Senior and healthy Glo. He looks awesome and I worry about changing what's working, but I don't want to support ADM's current practices and attitude either.
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Bibliafarm Reg. Jul 2008	Posted 2015-02-10 9:35 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Warmblood with Wings Posts: 27846 Location: Florida..	you should call where yours is bagged at and find out if its free of toxins if you plan to continue feeding it or use another high fat grain..
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CYA Ranch Reg. Feb 2008	Posted 2015-02-10 9:39 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
More bootie than waist! Posts: 18425 Location: Riding Crackhead.	Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 9:29 AM Mold is not the same as a company knowingly using medicated toxins that can kill a horse and damage a horses heart and yet doesnt make changes.. mold could be the feed store, could be the owners fault, could be many things contributing.. THIS issue is the feed companys lack of care.. What she said. My friend and I have both had problems getting moldy bagged feed at our local TSC, both Nutrena and Purina feeds. Its because its not rotated. When I find it I return it. In the summer with the heat and humidity my barn gets damp so I have to be careful of it molding in my barn.
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wyoming barrel racer Reg. Apr 2006	Posted 2015-02-10 9:43 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Neat Freak Posts: 11216 Location: Wonderful Wyoming	CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 8:39 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 9:29 AM Mold is not the same as a company knowingly using medicated toxins that can kill a horse and damage a horses heart and yet doesnt make changes.. mold could be the feed store, could be the owners fault, could be many things contributing.. THIS issue is the feed companys lack of care.. What she said. My friend and I have both had problems getting moldy bagged feed at our local TSC, both Nutrena and Purina feeds. Its because its not rotated. When I find it I return it. In the summer with the heat and humidity my barn gets damp so I have to be careful of it molding in my barn. I agree totally. I am saying most of the feed companies out there suck. As horse owners that care, we need to really think what we are going to feed. Just because a company is "safe" doesn't mean it is still something to feed your horse. Some would be better off with out the grain period. Just like a statement I made on someones post on facebook. Local mills are just as bad if not WORSE for mixing oats etc in the same facilities as medicated chicken and cow feed. Just really REALLY do your research and not follow the masses from one feed to another.
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Bibliafarm Reg. Jul 2008	Posted 2015-02-10 9:45 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Warmblood with Wings Posts: 27846 Location: Florida..	agree
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rachellyn80 Reg. Jan 2004	Posted 2015-02-10 9:47 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Jr. Detective Location: Beggs, OK	Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-10 8:14 AM I've got to buy feed today and am still confused about what to do. I obviously don't need to continue with ADM, but I don't like my other choices, which are Purina and Nutrena. I can get clean local oats and alfalfa pellets for the younger horses, but that doesn't help me with the oldies. What about Chaffhaye? My old mare did really well on it.
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rachellyn80 Reg. Jan 2004	Posted 2015-02-10 9:54 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Jr. Detective Location: Beggs, OK	wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:43 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 8:39 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 9:29 AM Mold is not the same as a company knowingly using medicated toxins that can kill a horse and damage a horses heart and yet doesnt make changes.. mold could be the feed store, could be the owners fault, could be many things contributing.. THIS issue is the feed companys lack of care.. What she said. My friend and I have both had problems getting moldy bagged feed at our local TSC, both Nutrena and Purina feeds. Its because its not rotated. When I find it I return it. In the summer with the heat and humidity my barn gets damp so I have to be careful of it molding in my barn. I agree totally. I am saying most of the feed companies out there suck. As horse owners that care, we need to really think what we are going to feed. Just because a company is "safe" doesn't mean it is still something to feed your horse. Some would be better off with out the grain period. Just like a statement I made on someones post on facebook. Local mills are just as bad if not WORSE for mixing oats etc in the same facilities as medicated chicken and cow feed. Just really REALLY do your research and not follow the masses from one feed to another. I would love to have mine on a totally grain free diet, but we don't have access to the quality of hay that the northern girls do. We can get alfalfa, but it's tough to get it with any consistency in quality or price. Our bermuda hay is good, but it's not enough. Mine are on alfalfa, grass hay, and Bluebonnet now. GroStrong is my favorite mineral, but ADM won't get another dime from me. They can thank Mr. Hartley for that.
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CYA Ranch Reg. Feb 2008	Posted 2015-02-10 10:00 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
More bootie than waist! Posts: 18425 Location: Riding Crackhead.	wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-10 9:43 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 8:39 AM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 9:29 AM Mold is not the same as a company knowingly using medicated toxins that can kill a horse and damage a horses heart and yet doesnt make changes.. mold could be the feed store, could be the owners fault, could be many things contributing.. THIS issue is the feed companys lack of care.. What she said. My friend and I have both had problems getting moldy bagged feed at our local TSC, both Nutrena and Purina feeds. Its because its not rotated. When I find it I return it. In the summer with the heat and humidity my barn gets damp so I have to be careful of it molding in my barn. I agree totally. I am saying most of the feed companies out there suck. As horse owners that care, we need to really think what we are going to feed. Just because a company is "safe" doesn't mean it is still something to feed your horse. Some would be better off with out the grain period. Just like a statement I made on someones post on facebook. Local mills are just as bad if not WORSE for mixing oats etc in the same facilities as medicated chicken and cow feed. Just really REALLY do your research and not follow the masses from one feed to another. The local mill where I was getting my bulk oats from mixes medicated feed and flushes the system before they run horse feed. I've never had a problem with it but it does make me nervous. My brother raises some oats for his own personal use. I'll be getting my oats from him.
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Three 4 Luck Reg. Sep 2003	Posted 2015-02-10 10:12 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
Accident Prone Posts: 22277 Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR	rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 9:47 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-10 8:14 AM I've got to buy feed today and am still confused about what to do. I obviously don't need to continue with ADM, but I don't like my other choices, which are Purina and Nutrena. I can get clean local oats and alfalfa pellets for the younger horses, but that doesn't help me with the oldies. What about Chaffhaye? My old mare did really well on it. Where do I find dealers? The only one I know about is Myle and she's like 6 hours from me.
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bracer41 Reg. May 2006	Posted 2015-02-10 10:14 AM Subject: RE: Is your horse feed safe
No Fear Posts: 5089 Location: TN	Can't find the page....what tests should be done on my horses....exposure and heart?
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