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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | With NeverTooOld's post I want to post two links to a great patriots youtube videos that I have watched multiple times in the last four weeks. They are invaluable for all of us who are ignorant of the constitution and where it came from. She is a constitutional attorney, teacher. She went to Burns to speak with the townspeople and the group at the refuge. EVERY citizen should know this BEFORE you make assumptions about LaVoy Finicum.
This one first explains the content of the constitution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T424sWq1SkE
When that one gets you excited then watch where the constitution came from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2POwIwA8E
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     Location: Not Where I Want to Be | ropenrun - 2016-02-03 2:38 PM Does anyone know how many cattle Finecum had?
you looking to buy cheap?
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | OregonBR - 2016-02-03 1:06 PM With NeverTooOld's post I want to post two links to a great patriots youtube videos that I have watched multiple times in the last four weeks. They are invaluable for all of us how are ignorant of the constitution and where it came from. She is a constitutional attorney, teacher. She went to Burns to speak with the townspeople and the group at the refuge. EVERY citizen should know this BEFORE you make assumptions about LaVoy Finicum. This one first explains the content of the constitution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T424sWq1SkE When that one gets you excited then watch where the constitution came from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2POwIwA8E
I love KrisAnne Hall! She gets it said in such an engaging manner...and she's right. She says everything I only try to say! Here's a vid of an interview with her and the intervieweer adds a lot to the conversation...watch to the end because it has twists & turns that ae interesting & educational: http://www.jasonstapleton.com/beyond-the-sound-bite-krisanne-hall/
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       Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | musikmaker - 2016-02-03 2:29 PM
OregonBR - 2016-02-03 1:06 PM With NeverTooOld's post I want to post two links to a great patriots youtube videos that I have watched multiple times in the last four weeks. They are invaluable for all of us how are ignorant of the constitution and where it came from. She is a constitutional attorney, teacher. She went to Burns to speak with the townspeople and the group at the refuge. EVERY citizen should know this BEFORE you make assumptions about LaVoy Finicum. This one first explains the content of the constitution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T424sWq1SkE When that one gets you excited then watch where the constitution came from. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG2POwIwA8E
I love KrisAnne Hall! She gets it said in such an engaging manner...and she's right. She says everything I only try to say! Here's a vid of an interview with her and the intervieweer adds a lot to the conversation...watch to the end because it has twists & turns that ae interesting & educational: http://www.jasonstapleton.com/beyond-the-sound-bite-krisanne-hall/Â
Just finished watching. It was SUPER! | |
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| From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
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             Location: North Texas | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM
From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought! | |
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      Location: Online | foundation horse - 2016-02-03 7:31 PM FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM From. Www.ranchworldads.com A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad: Company Overview The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses. Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver. If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities. Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them. Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought!
Because Finney scours the world wide web for Liberal opinion pieces that fit her narrative.
In this case she continues to make no sense. I'm still trying to figure out her point. Other than turning things around to blame rich Conservatives. Typical Liberal move. Trying to justify the Feds taking land from law abiding ranchers. She really needs to go back to her history books, for once use google for good and do research on the Revolutionary War. Not the Liberalized versions that leave out key events.
But that is asking a lot. May she just needs to stick to watching Rachel Madcow and feeling good about herself. | |
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      Location: Online | I can play the cut and paste game too....
Justifying the Revolution When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. (Declaration, page 1, lines 1-6).Our founding fathers did not begin the American revolution with bombs or bullets. They began with words. Waging a war against a more established and experienced military is not a decision most will take lightly. People aren't willing to give their only life for a frivolous cause. When drafting the Declaration, Jefferson didn't try to re-invent the wheel; most of our founders political philosophy came directly from “conversation, in letters, printed essays, or in the elementary books of public right, as Aristotle, Cicero, Locke, Sidney, etc.” (Letter, pg 12, lines 1-2). The foundation was set, someone just had to put things in clear enough terms for people to get mad enough to do something about it. John Locke describes in “Politics” some examples in which citizens are justified to revolt: First, when the government (whether King or Legislature,) creates laws which invade the lives, liberties and / or properties of the citizens. Locke also asserts that government acts contrary to the trust of the public when it: ...employs the force, treasure, and offices of the society, to corrupt the representatives, and gain them to his purposes; or openly pre-engages the electors, and prescribes to their choice, such, whom he has, by solicitations, threats, promised, or otherwise, won to his designs: and employs them to bring in such, who have promised beforehand, what to vote, and what to enact. (Locke, pg 40, lines 28-32.) The main function of government is to protect life, liberty, and property. When the government acts contrary to those functions, according to Locke, they “put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience...,” (Locke, pg. 40, lines 14-15). At this point, “it devolves to the people, who have a right to resume their original liberty, and, by the establishment of a new legislative, (such as they shall think fit) provide for their own safety and security, which is the end for which they are in society.” (Locke, pg 40, lines 20-23.) Locke is asserting here that our right to revolt and replace the corrupt legislators is inherent in the relationship between the elected and the citizens. One of the arguments against this premise of allowing citizens to revolt and institute new rulers “as they see fit” is that it may allow the constant overthrow of government at any minor transgression, leading to perpetual instability and conflict. Locke counters this assertion by stating “People are not so easily got out of their old forms as some are apt to suggest. They are hardly to be prevailed with to amend the acknowledged faults in the frame they have been accustomed to.” (Locke, pg. 40, lines 37-39, page 41, line 1). Put simple, Locke is stating that most people will tolerate the status quo, and are only compelled to take action when the transgressions become so great, and so obvious to everyone, they cannot be ignored. Locke also maintains that, when the public is always willing to assert its inherent right to revolt, this will act as a “check” to whatever government is currently in power. In theory, at least. Upon reviewing the Declaration of Independence, one can draw parallels between the older writings of Locke, and the main author of the Declaration, Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson begins by laying a foundation, rooted in the wisdom of Locke, in order to convince citizens that we need to take action. For what is the purpose of the Declaration of Independence if the masses are not willing to give it teeth? People need to be convinced to stand up and openly rebel against an oppressor, especially in the face of grave danger. Any attempted justification would clearly have to be compelling, our founding fathers must have known Britain wouldn't give up these great lands without a fight. Enormous amounts of blood would have to be shed in order for this to work. So much was at stake with this document, if it failed, so conceivably would our American experiment. After the introduction, Jefferson is ruthless in describing Britain's transgressions against us: The King's refusal to allow us to govern as we see fit, the King dissolving any legislatures we create, his stationing large numbers of troops among us, his calling of legislative meetings impractically far away, his depriving citizens of the right to fair trials, taxation without consent, inciting warfare among and against the Citizens, etc. (Declaration, pages 6-8). The list goes on and on. Towards the end of the Declaration, Jefferson states: In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.” (Declaration, page 8, lines 7-11). Jefferson justifies action by drawing from the words of Locke. The issues he wrote about were grave transgressions of power, which had been going on for a long time. They are not frivolous, spur of the moment issues. We could not live in this fashion, and action had to be taken. We petitioned the King numerous times with no positive results, only continued oppression. Therefore, the only thing we could do is dissolve the bonds between the British and our Independent States, in order to shake off the chains of oppression which bound us to the King and his continued injustice. The Declaration ends with representatives of the 13 colonies “mutually pledg(ing) to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.” (Declaration, page 8, lines 33-34). - unknown | |
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      Location: Arkansas | musikmaker - 2016-02-03 9:54 AM
cyount2009 - 2016-02-03 8:51 AM Douglas J Gordon - 2016-02-03 9:23 AM I don't know why but for some reason I would like to attend his funeral. My husband and I said the same thing. If we were closer I would be going for sure, and I HATE funerals. I think it is because he died fighting for our way of life in the West and the battles we have watched our friends, neighbors and family lose time after time.
We'll probably go...we have a lot of friends in common, may have met Lavoy in passing, idk, but, I just want to be a body for support.
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FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM
From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought!
The first part come from the Koch Industry's web site word for word. of course she left out the remaining part that states all the awards for stewardship of the land that the Matador cattle company has received. | |
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             Location: North Texas | jbhoot - 2016-02-03 9:15 PM
foundation horse - 2016-02-03 8:31 PM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM
From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought!
The first part come from the Koch Industry's web site word for word. of course she left out the remaining part that states all the awards for stewardship of the land that the Matador cattle company has received.
Of course she did. She only posted what little part would fit her communist anti capitalistic narrative!
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| jbhoot - 2016-02-03 9:15 PM
foundation horse - 2016-02-03 8:31 PM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM
From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought!
The first part come from the Koch Industry's web site word for word. of course she left out the remaining part that states all the awards for stewardship of the land that the Matador cattle company has received.
As usual, you miss the point. I said this was an excerpt from an ad posted on www.ranchworldads.com for employment. I included the part about the property to emphasize what happens when billionaires are given the opportunity to purchase vast tracts of land.
Quoting all of their "good works" does not take away the fact that one family controls land that numerous families used to make a living on.
If you choose to be willfully ignorant to the consequences of privatization, so be it.
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             Location: North Texas | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 9:25 PM
jbhoot - 2016-02-03 9:15 PM
foundation horse - 2016-02-03 8:31 PM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM
From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought!
The first part come from the Koch Industry's web site word for word. of course she left out the remaining part that states all the awards for stewardship of the land that the Matador cattle company has received.
As usual, you miss the point. I said this was an excerpt from an ad posted on www.ranchworldads.com for employment. I included the part about the property to emphasize what happens when billionaires are given the opportunity to purchase vast tracts of land.
Quoting all of their "good works" does not take away the fact that one family controls land that numerous families used to make a living on.
If you choose to be willfully ignorant to the consequences of privatization, so be it.
Was this Country not founded upon "Private" Rights? The Right to own Property? Which is what The Koch Brothers have done?
Finney, You don't understand American History, do you? By comment(s) you cannot even begin to fathom American struggles in regards to a Rogue Government! | |
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             Location: North Texas | Finney, You impress me as a whiney, undereducated, jealous person who has the idea Government is supposed to right all wrongs........................................ | |
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| FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 9:25 PM
jbhoot - 2016-02-03 9:15 PM
foundation horse - 2016-02-03 8:31 PM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM
From. Www.ranchworldads.com
A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:
Company Overview
The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.
If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.
Where did you C&P this piece from Finney? Because to date, I have not read one post of yours that was an original thought!
The first part come from the Koch Industry's web site word for word. of course she left out the remaining part that states all the awards for stewardship of the land that the Matador cattle company has received.
As usual, you miss the point. I said this was an excerpt from an ad posted on www.ranchworldads.com for employment. I included the part about the property to emphasize what happens when billionaires are given the opportunity to purchase vast tracts of land.
Quoting all of their "good works" does not take away the fact that one family controls land that numerous families used to make a living on.
If you choose to be willfully ignorant to the consequences of privatization, so be it.
Finney You are the one who is willfully being ignorant. You really need to do your research on the Matador and the other two ranches that make up the matador cattle company. Because frankly you do not have a clue what you are talking about. | |
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Finney, You impress me as a whiney, undereducated, jealous person who has the idea Government is supposed to right all wrongs........................................
And you don't impress me with your twisted logic to "protect the ranchers from the big, bad government" on one hand while advocating for privatization that would destroy those very same ranchers.
My late brother-in-law in western Montana ranched next to privatized land purchased by Ted Turner. His purchase of an enormous tract of land displaced 17 ranchers.
You howl for the love of it, not because you give a hoot about the ranch families, so don't pretend you do. Otherwise you wouldn't stomp and shout about the government taking their land but not the capitalistic billionaires who never have enough land or money.
You and your kind are hypocrites, looking for a reason to spew your anti-government rhetoric, and you found just the right target in an economically depressed community filled with people looking for a miracle. So don't pretend you care about those ranchers, because if that 40% of the workforce that keeps Harney County hanging on is gone, that community is done. Your hatred has twisted you so that can't even comprehend or understand that leaders in your movement are already touting how much money they could make with all those resources. And maybe you need to revisit your history lessons if you have forgotten the bloody mess that was the cattle baron wars, where small ranchers were murdered and driven off their land by wealthy capitalists who purchased the lawmakers. Sound familiar?
So you can fool all the silly little girls and boys reading your garbled logic that you are a warrior for the ranchers, but you don't fool me. | |
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| foundation horse - 2016-02-03 9:33 PM
Finney, You impress me as a whiney, undereducated, jealous person who has the idea Government is supposed to right all wrongs........................................
FH, I have to disagree with you here. It sounds to me like she has been overeducated to the point where common sense and thinking for oneself have left the building. One just needs to take a look at the rarified environment at GOVERNEMENT CONTROLLED Universities and colleges, which is most of them. They cannot sustain without government money, so the Liberal, Socialist agenda is pushed into malleable young minds who have been brainwashed and conditioned in our now Federal controlled public schools. (I have a niece who home schooled her daughter when she found out that they were teaching that the Constitution had no real bearing in today's world).
I remember we had a hippie type English teacher, who I really did like, who tried to push the socialist, peace not war, everybody is the same mentality. I thank the Lord that I chose to think for myself and not follow her or other like minded teachers down that rosy path to dronehood. | |
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     Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 9:07 PM foundation horse - 2016-02-03 9:33 PM Finney, You impress me as a whiney, undereducated, jealous person who has the idea Government is supposed to right all wrongs........................................ And you don't impress me with your twisted logic to "protect the ranchers from the big, bad government" on one hand while advocating for privatization that would destroy those very same ranchers. My late brother-in-law in western Montana ranched next to privatized land purchased by Ted Turner. His purchase of an enormous tract of land displaced 17 ranchers. You howl for the love of it, not because you give a hoot about the ranch families, so don't pretend you do. Otherwise you wouldn't stomp and shout about the government taking their land but not the capitalistic billionaires who never have enough land or money. You and your kind are hypocrites, looking for a reason to spew your anti-government rhetoric, and you found just the right target in an economically depressed community filled with people looking for a miracle. So don't pretend you care about those ranchers, because if that 40% of the workforce that keeps Harney County hanging on is gone, that community is done. Your hatred has twisted you so that can't even comprehend or understand that leaders in your movement are already touting how much money they could make with all those resources. And maybe you need to revisit your history lessons if you have forgotten the bloody mess that was the cattle baron wars, where small ranchers were murdered and driven off their land by wealthy capitalists who purchased the lawmakers. Sound familiar? So you can fool all the silly little girls and boys reading your garbled logic that you are a warrior for the ranchers, but you don't fool me.
Who do you think Ted Turner bought off with that? I want to point out that way back...if you look to the Constitution...you will find a little 'clause' that prohibts 'monopolies'...guess what? It's no longer in effect. You will note that the Nature Conservancy has a 'monopoly'. You will note that 'other' big money a**holes have 'monopolies'. Including those you mentioned and one you didn't...the federal government. There was a time when land out west was retracted from those who would play that game...most of us on here want to re-instate the rule of law...don't be hating on those who have the drive, the ingenuity...do be hating on those who buy off politicians. That we can all agree with, I think.
The Bundy's...they have a valid complaint. Stop the hate and open the mind. They aren't the enemy. I've met so many people who have some sort of 'entitlment' attitude and that is exactly how you sound...filled with hate, dispair and resentment for those who have more than you...therefore, you support a government who would take from those that do and give to those who didn't. Who the he** cares???? I don't have it all...never will...don't care. Sure, let's do away with the producer...where does that leave humanity? You sound like a bernie supporter...socialism doesn't work...you will never get what you didn't work for and the way it's looking you might not get what you did work for. Educate yourself! Throw away everything you thought you knew...open your mind to possibilities...just pretend for a moment that you've been lied to...imagine....that we aren't all wrong.
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