Chandler's Mom - 2016-02-03 8:55 PM When is the funeral?

Douglas J Gordon - 2016-02-03 9:40 PM A Judge has ruled that the Cox lady can't attend Lavoy Finicum's funerl!

FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 10:07 PM


And you don't impress me with your twisted logic to "protect the ranchers from the big, bad government" on one hand while advocating for privatization that would destroy those very same ranchers.

My late brother-in-law in western Montana ranched next to privatized land purchased by Ted Turner. His purchase of an enormous tract of land displaced 17 ranchers.

You howl for the love of it, not because you give a hoot about the ranch families, so don't pretend you do. Otherwise you wouldn't stomp and shout about the government taking their land but not the capitalistic billionaires who never have enough land or money.

You and your kind are hypocrites, looking for a reason to spew your anti-government rhetoric, and you found just the right target in an economically depressed community filled with people looking for a miracle. So don't pretend you care about those ranchers, because if that 40% of the workforce that keeps Harney County hanging on is gone, that community is done. Your hatred has twisted you so that can't even comprehend or understand that leaders in your movement are already touting how much money they could make with all those resources. And maybe you need to revisit your history lessons if you have forgotten the bloody mess that was the cattle baron wars, where small ranchers were murdered and driven off their land by wealthy capitalists who purchased the lawmakers. Sound familiar?

So you can fool all the silly little girls and boys reading your garbled logic that you are a warrior for the ranchers, but you don't fool me.

Douglas J Gordon - 2016-02-03 10:40 PM A Judge has ruled that the Cox lady can't attend Lavoy Finicum's funerl!

musikmaker - 2016-02-03 10:36 PM Who do you think Ted Turner bought off with that?

I want to point out that way back...if you look to the Constitution...you will find a little 'clause' that prohibts 'monopolies'...guess what? It's no longer in effect. You will note that the Nature Conservancy has a 'monopoly'. You will note that 'other' big money a**holes have 'monopolies'. Including those you mentioned and one you didn't...the federal government.

There was a time when land out west was retracted from those who would play that game...most of us on here want to re-instate the rule of law...don't be hating on those who have the drive, the ingenuity...do be hating on those who buy off politicians. That we can all agree with, I think.



The Bundy's...they have a valid complaint. Stop the hate and open the mind. They aren't the enemy.

I've met so many people who have some sort of 'entitlment' attitude and that is exactly how you sound...filled with hate, dispair and resentment for those who have more than you...therefore, you support a government who would take from those that do and give to those who didn't. Who the he** cares????

I don't have it all...never will...don't care.

Sure, let's do away with the producer...where does that leave humanity?

You sound like a bernie supporter...socialism doesn't work...you will never get what you didn't work for and the way it's looking you might not get what you did work for.

Educate yourself! Throw away everything you thought you knew...open your mind to possibilities...just pretend for a moment that you've been lied to...imagine....that we aren't all wrong.







 

MS2011 - 2016-02-04 7:19 AM On what grounds?

 

FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 10:07 PM And you don't impress me with your twisted logic to "protect the ranchers from the big, bad government" on one hand while advocating for privatization that would destroy those very same ranchers. My late brother-in-law in western Montana ranched next to privatized land purchased by Ted Turner. His purchase of an enormous tract of land displaced 17 ranchers. You howl for the love of it, not because you give a hoot about the ranch families, so don't pretend you do. Otherwise you wouldn't stomp and shout about the government taking their land but not the capitalistic billionaires who never have enough land or money. You and your kind are hypocrites, looking for a reason to spew your anti-government rhetoric, and you found just the right target in an economically depressed community filled with people looking for a miracle. So don't pretend you care about those ranchers, because if that 40% of the workforce that keeps Harney County hanging on is gone, that community is done. Your hatred has twisted you so that can't even comprehend or understand that leaders in your movement are already touting how much money they could make with all those resources. And maybe you need to revisit your history lessons if you have forgotten the bloody mess that was the cattle baron wars, where small ranchers were murdered and driven off their land by wealthy capitalists who purchased the lawmakers. Sound familiar? So you can fool all the silly little girls and boys reading your garbled logic that you are a warrior for the ranchers, but you don't fool me.

Vickie - 2016-02-04 8:45 AM

We already fought a war over "state's rights" 150 years ago.  Let's not go down that road again. 

FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 8:28 PM

From. Www.ranchworldads.com

A new ad for ranch help was posted today on this website. They are looking for a cowboy/cowgirl II at their ranch in Dillon, MT. Here is part of the ad:

Company Overview

The Matador Cattle Company operates three ranches: Beaverhead in Montana, Matador in Texas and Spring Creek in Kansas. The ranches were acquired between 1941 and 1952 by Fred C. Koch, co-founder of what is now Koch Industries. Today, the ranches total more than 460,000 acres of owned or leased land. The ranches wean about 9,500 calves annually and support more than 12,000 cattle. Safety programs held at The Matador Cattle Company’s Montana, Kansas and Texas ranches include horsemanship clinics that focus on riders and horses.
Beaverhead covers approximately 345,000 acres in Southwest Montana. It stretches along a 90-mile road from Dillon to the Idaho border then east to Yellowstone Park. It is home to nearly 7,000 cow/calf pairs but also bald eagle, elk, and beaver.

If the Federal Government would give American Citizens' land back to the states, the Kochs' and the Ted Turners of the world would own everything, and the ranchers with no leases at all would be their hired hands. When Turner bought thousands of acres in Nebraska, he tore out the interior fences, ran buffalo, and many families lost their jobs they had held with the individual ranches for years and had to relocate to other communities.
Make no mistake, this is what you are advocating for, so don't kid yourself that there will be a fairytale ending to privatization of public land. And the politicians, and militiamen, and the Bundys of the world promising ranchers that they will miraculously be given free land and grazing that is rightfully theirs anyway will be laughing all the way to the bank with the donations from the poor suckers who blindly believe these hucksters with an agenda. Martyr old Finicum and idolize the felons running around playing soldier, but know that it is people like you who are responsible for the disgust and contempt that the majority of Americans are now feeling towards what they perceive as "ranchers". It makes me sad that so many hardworking real ranchers are compared to the likes of them.

MS2011 - 2016-02-04 8:19 AM


On what grounds?
 

rodeomom3 - 2016-02-04 9:17 AM I am not arguing about the loss of jobs from the individual ranches being dissolved but isn't that also due to the choice of the individual ranchers who chose to sell to Ted Turner?? Why blame him??? Big government and big money are one and the same.

rodeomom3 - 2016-02-04 9:17 AM I am not arguing about the loss of jobs from the individual ranches being dissolved but isn't that also due to the choice of the individual ranchers who chose to sell to Ted Turner?? Why blame him??? Big government and big money are one and the same.

Douglas J Gordon - 2016-02-04 9:27 AM  I don't know the grounds. It was mentioned on our local news here in Utah last night. Probably trying to keep the hostility down.

MS2011 - 2016-02-04 9:28 AM


Could you post a link for us?  That is insane. 

FinneyQuarterHorses - 2016-02-03 10:07 PM And you don't impress me with your twisted logic to "protect the ranchers from the big, bad government" on one hand while advocating for privatization that would destroy those very same ranchers. My late brother-in-law in western Montana ranched next to privatized land purchased by Ted Turner. His purchase of an enormous tract of land displaced 17 ranchers. You howl for the love of it, not because you give a hoot about the ranch families, so don't pretend you do. Otherwise you wouldn't stomp and shout about the government taking their land but not the capitalistic billionaires who never have enough land or money. You and your kind are hypocrites, looking for a reason to spew your anti-government rhetoric, and you found just the right target in an economically depressed community filled with people looking for a miracle. So don't pretend you care about those ranchers, because if that 40% of the workforce that keeps Harney County hanging on is gone, that community is done. Your hatred has twisted you so that can't even comprehend or understand that leaders in your movement are already touting how much money they could make with all those resources. And maybe you need to revisit your history lessons if you have forgotten the bloody mess that was the cattle baron wars, where small ranchers were murdered and driven off their land by wealthy capitalists who purchased the lawmakers. Sound familiar? So you can fool all the silly little girls and boys reading your garbled logic that you are a warrior for the ranchers, but you don't fool me.

MS2011 - 2016-02-04 9:31 AM I'm going to have to research this some more....but here's a video of Cruz discussing returning the land to the states. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzjE2OrM5MI&feature=youtu.be[/qu...
And Ted Cruz has accomplished soooo much in his time in the Senate.