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Location: OK | I know it may not be an offer, but my choice is OKC. The reason is, we can gamble. We have room to build. We are close to the middle of the east and west coast. It's been here already, but the tribes have way way way more money now than they did then. I think, get them in on it, and you can have any kind of nfr you want. It's usually pretty warm, no snow usually. I don't know about surrounding states and their gambling laws, but if casinos and night life is your attraction, the Indians can do it. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jojammer - 2013-12-17 4:17 PM Also, to the people who are pointing out that many "city folk" have no interest in rodeo... let me say this. If you bring the NFR to TOWN, somebody will go, and he will tell somebody else, and somebody will know uncle so and so who has an old horse, and bam. You have fans. Many people just don't have the exposure. Expose them to something great, and they will appreciate it. I also think that we as contestants have a responsibility to rodeo. Used to, anybody could learn to ride. Free. You can still learn, for $200 for some videos, $50 for some halter, and $300 for a 2 day clinic. People, it's YOUR job to expand the sport. Help some kid. Do it for free. Get them started, then let them decide how far they want to take it. To many, it just seems too overwhelming to get into it, so they never do. In my mind, some of that is our fault. It's always been my thing that if someone wants to learn to ride, I will help. I don't care who or what or how. Every kid should know the love of horses.
I agree with this. I won't simply accept that city folk cant become rodeo fans. How do we know that?
They used to say that about baseball....there simply wasn't enough competition for some farm boy to learn to become a pitcher.....then along came a farm boy from Iowa who only had his dad to play catch with. When his dad wasn't available, he threw baseballs and horse turds against the barn. He had to work on the farm and barely had many chances to play ball with other kids. His dad was admonished by the minister for allowing him to play baseball on Sundays when he got a little older, so his dad dumped the church for another that would tolerate baseball on the Sabbath. That boy's name was Bobby Feller and he became one of the greatest pitchers of all time. The kid had a dream to become a ballplayer....and he made it happen, with the support of his dad. My point is, if some inner city boy or girl saw a rodeo and became smitten, maybe...just maybe he/she might figure out a way to get it done. It might be tough to do, but that's what's great about America. You can't tell me that of the tens of millions of kids living in urban areas, there aren't a few who have all the tools to become a great cowboy or cowgirl. If you can't see it, then I submit you have absolutely no imagination, and you haven't read enough about the Bobby Fellers who grace the halls of history. | |
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Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | Mesa Leavitt told me onetime when I asked her how she started riding, and she said that she was with her dad on a business trip, and they went and watched the NFR and she said she fell in love and its all she wanted to do......never had horses never ridden in her life, and her dream began by watching the National Finals rodeo in Las Vegas Nevada one night, my point is it only take one spark to change some ones life dreams and plans. | |
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | jojammer - 2013-12-17 4:35 PM I know it may not be an offer, but my choice is OKC. The reason is, we can gamble. We have room to build. We are close to the middle of the east and west coast. It's been here already, but the tribes have way way way more money now than they did then. I think, get them in on it, and you can have any kind of nfr you want. It's usually pretty warm, no snow usually. I don't know about surrounding states and their gambling laws, but if casinos and night life is your attraction, the Indians can do it.
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Location: OK | The NFR has been in Dallas I believe, OKC, Madison Square Garden, and Vegas, maybe LA or somewhere before? Still growing. I think every time it's moved, everybody was like omg, it's all over now. Still strong tho. I'm pumped for the change. Can you imagine winning $30,000 for a round!? How freakin cool....
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Location: South Central Florida | If the LVE is going to put up more money anyway, than why not give it to the NFR?
However my take on another big rodeo is GREAT. I've always felt that more competetion is a great thing. Two big shows a year, more people watching, more money flowing. If your good at what you do, you don't have to worry about competition being better. You just have more people involved.
What if they had 3 or 5 gigantic rodeo's!!! Holy Cow, that would be amazing to me, no matter where they are!!!
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Location: Oregon | Since LVE is no longer negotiating, I wonder what they have had in mind. One article I read talked of putting on a Rodeo Super Show...like the one in Dallas in March. How great would that be for those that didn't make the NFR and to be able to go make money at another venue. Have the NFR and a Super Show at the same time on 2 different coasts. Highly doubt it would be sanctioned by PRCA, but it it is beginning of the year for everyone in the PRCA, only 15 per event make the finals. Pretty sure it would draw a large crowd of other members to just try and make some money. JMO. Hope the PRCA gets the deal it wants from which ever venue has the most lucrative offer.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Well........looks like we have a little bit of back peddling going on.
By ALAN SNEL
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL Don’t say happy trails to the National Finals Rodeo quite yet. The chairman of the Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association board, which governs the popular 10-day rodeo held in Las Vegas for nearly three decades, said Monday that his board wants to make a counteroffer that would keep the NFR in Las Vegas after 2014. The board voted unanimously to approve further negotiations immediately after it voted 6-3 to reject a 10-year deal worth $15 million per year proposed by Las Vegas Events, the nonprofit that promotes the rodeo. Las Vegas tourism officials took the rejection as the final word, but PRCA Board Chairman Keith Martin on Monday said the board also voted unanimously to submit a counteroffer to Las Vegas Events in hopes of keeping the prized rodeo in Sin City — something Las Vegas Events apparently first learned from the Review-Journal on Monday. “We want to stay in Las Vegas,” Martin said from his office at the San Antonio Stock Show &Rodeo, where he is executive director and chief executive. Martin was among the three PRCA board members who voted to accept the Las Vegas Events offer. “If Las Vegas is saying it’s over, then I need to find that out. ... I’m confused on that, frankly,” Martin said. Las Vegas Events President Pat Christenson said he was unaware of a desire to keep negotiating. “We didn’t know that they wanted to counter,” Christenson said Monday. “There’s not a lot of time. We’ve been negotiating for over a year and a half. It would have to be timely, in the next two weeks.” Christenson said he believed Sunday that the PRCA was ready to quit Las Vegas, in part because of a simultaneous Sunday meeting of officials in Florida’s Osceola County to approve a memorandum of understanding offering to build a new 24,000-seat arena and offer $16 million per year in purses and administrative fees to lure the National Finals Rodeo to the Orlando area. That belief prompted Las Vegas Events on Sunday to say it was “disappointed that the PRCA has chosen to pursue a completely speculative offer versus Las Vegas’ proven 29-year track record.” Christenson said Sunday that his organization, funded by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, already was planning a competing world championship rodeo in Las Vegas for the two weeks in December when the NFR is held. The NFR ended its 29th year in Las Vegas on Saturday night. Major rodeo events are held in Houston and Calgary without PRCA governance. Christenson said Martin told Las Vegas Events board member Michael Gaughan about the rejection Sunday but did not tell Gaughan of the subsequent vote to make a counteroffer. Gaughan, a longtime NFR supporter, owns South Point casino-hotel and is working with Christenson on the NFR negotiations. Martin noted Monday that the PRCA board didn’t vote Sunday to move the Super Bowl of rodeos to Kissimmee, Fla., which is near Disney World and also home to some of the biggest rodeos east of the Mississippi River. Martin said the PRCA board is legally obligated to consider all offers from other potential host markets, which include Dallas and Oklahoma City. Martin said he had no contact with Christenson on Sunday, and was surprised when he read the Las Vegas Events president’s comments in the Monday Review-Journal. “In the form of an article — that was a little bit strange,” Martin said. Asked why Osceola County commissioners met Sunday to vote on its offer, Martin said only, “The timing — I’m not sure about.” Martin said the next step is for PRCA Commissioner Karl Stressman to draft the counteroffer to Las Vegas Events. The 10-day NFR is a big money-maker for Las Vegas at a time of the year when business is slow along the Strip and in other hotels around Las Vegas. The rodeo generates about $60 million in annual spending. MGM Resorts International’s hotel-casinos host thousands of NFR visitors and issued this statement Monday: “NFR has been a valuable event and partner for almost three decades. Our company and our community would hate to see them leave Las Vegas. However, should rodeo organizers continue down this path, we have the utmost confidence in the ability of Las Vegas Events and Las Vegas as a brand to attract other customers and events to fill the void.” From 1985-2012, 1.06 million out-of-town visitors came to the NFR, generating an estimated nongaming economic impact of $1.01 billion. In 2011, 44,975 out-of-town visitors came to NFR, while 52,925 out-of-town visitors attended in 2012. From 1985 to 2012, estimated total event attendance was 4.76 million, which includes local residents. Contact Alan Snel at [email protected] or 702-387-5273. Follow Snel on Twitter at @BicycleManSnel. | |
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Location: Oregon | I saw that article and one other. I think they have another back up already in place. Just my guess, but as said before. The house always has the odds and you better have a dang good poker face if you are going to bluff in Vegas. Hopefully they either work it out or part amicably. I personally think it would be exciting to see the NFR move and another big show. But that is just me. National Finals Rodeo expected to leave Las Vegas for Florida after nearly 3 decadesAssociated Press LAS VEGAS – The National Finals Rodeo is planning to leave Las Vegas for Florida after 29 years, depriving Sin City of an event that brings nearly $100 million in economic impact annually as thousands of cowboys and rodeo fans descend on the city each December. News of the tentative deal drew groans from Sin City's powerful hotel and restaurant workers union and others who benefit from the 10-day event, which takes place in the city's tourism slow season. Tourism officials vowed to launch a competing rodeo. "We are disappointed that the PRCA has chosen to pursue a completely speculative offer versus Las Vegas' proven 29-year track record," Michael Mack, spokesman for Las Vegas Events, said in a statement. "Now that we know the PRCA's true intentions, we will put our full effort into developing a new Series and Finals." The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association board voted 6-3 Sunday to turn down Sin City's offer in favor of an agreement with Florida's Osceola County, south of Orlando. Osceola County commissioners voted 5-0 Sunday to accept a memorandum of understanding that allows 90 days to close the deal. The plan calls for the 2015 event to be held at the nearby Amway Center, home of the Orlando Magic; county officials vowed to have a new, 24,000-seat arena ready for the event by the fall of 2016. The deal also would include $16 million annually for the rodeo association's prize money and administrative costs, as well as revenue sharing. "I say we've put together the best incentive package for the PRCA," said Osceola County Commission Chairman Fred Hawkins Jr., who added that he's not ruling out other contender cities just yet. "We have all the venues here to do exactly what the NFR does in Vegas." The 300,000-person county, home to a rodeo once considered the largest east of the Mississippi, offered about $4 million more than Las Vegas. "Adding an additional $4 million to the budget would require a 40 percent increase in ticket prices," Mack said. "That is not sustainable. We have to balance the demands of the PRCA with the consequence of pricing our fans out of the market." The National Finals Rodeo has been an economic boon for Las Vegas, drawing almost 53,000 out-of-town visitors in 2012, according to figures compiled by the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Bureau. That was up from about 45,000 in 2011. More than 175,000 tickets were sold in 2012 for 10-day event at the Thomas & Mack Center, and the overall economic impact on hotel rooms, restaurants and other expenses was estimated at nearly $93 million, authority spokeswoman Dawn Christensen said. Figures for the 2013 event, which ended Saturday, weren't immediately available. The event is a big draw for locals and out-of-towners alike, with country music concerts and rodeo-watching parties held at casinos all over town. Ads on taxis welcome the NFR, while hundreds of vendors pack the Las Vegas Convention Center for a giant Cowboy Fanfest and the Cowboy Christmas Gift Show. "Extremely disappointed that the #WranglerNFR is leaving the @CityOfLasVegas," tweeted Sen. Dean Heller, R-Nevada. "Without question, the economy and Vegas workers will feel the negative impact of losing thousands of Rodeo tourists," said Yvanna Cancela, spokeswoman for the large Culinary Union. Rodeo officials emphasized the decision is not yet final. "The PRCA Board did not vote to leave Las Vegas; the vote was made strictly on the content of the current offer," association commissioner Karl Stressman said in a statement, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal. "The PRCA continues to carefully consider offers from all potential WNFR hosts."
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jojammer - 2013-12-17 3:56 PM Contestants go to Vegas because it's the NFR, not vice versa. Now if these contestants work all year, then at the end trying to make the finals spend most of what they made to get there, they do need to run at more $. If Vegas rakes in all that $ and won't pay more, then I think PRCA should move. How very selfish of the fans to wish the contestants to run at less money so they can go to the finals where they want. If you wanna go to Vegas, just go. I think FL will be better, bigger. I personally would love to see it come back to OKC because it's in the middle of the country, but I really don't care where it is as long as it's good for PRCA contestants.
I really don't have a dog in this fight, one way or another. I want to go to the NFR, but I don't care where it's being held, to be honest. That being said, I can think of a dozen places I'd rather visit than Vegas. My initial reaction was it's a bad decision to leave Vegas, but now that I've thought of things, as far as I'm concerned, it might just end up being the right move. All I really care about is pro rodeo and a desire to see it thrive and flourish. Right now, it's just sort of hanging on....clinging. Some of the partcipants didn't make a thin dime. I think that's a dirty shame. That big bulldogger from Canada didn't make a penny for example. He probably lost money this year, for all we know. For goodness sakes, I think the top 15 ought to all at least make something resembling a decent income for a year of top level competition.
They are guaranteed a little bit for just qualifying in case they don't win any money. I think it is 6k, but that is still pretty pitiful In my opinion. | |
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Location: Colorado | yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-17 8:08 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 4:14 PM jojammer - 2013-12-17 3:56 PM Contestants go to Vegas because it's the NFR, not vice versa. Now if these contestants work all year, then at the end trying to make the finals spend most of what they made to get there, they do need to run at more $. If Vegas rakes in all that $ and won't pay more, then I think PRCA should move. How very selfish of the fans to wish the contestants to run at less money so they can go to the finals where they want. If you wanna go to Vegas, just go. I think FL will be better, bigger. I personally would love to see it come back to OKC because it's in the middle of the country, but I really don't care where it is as long as it's good for PRCA contestants. I really don't have a dog in this fight, one way or another. I want to go to the NFR, but I don't care where it's being held, to be honest. That being said, I can think of a dozen places I'd rather visit than Vegas. My initial reaction was it's a bad decision to leave Vegas, but now that I've thought of things, as far as I'm concerned, it might just end up being the right move. All I really care about is pro rodeo and a desire to see it thrive and flourish. Right now, it's just sort of hanging on....clinging. Some of the partcipants didn't make a thin dime. I think that's a dirty shame. That big bulldogger from Canada didn't make a penny for example. He probably lost money this year, for all we know. For goodness sakes, I think the top 15 ought to all at least make something resembling a decent income for a year of top level competition. They are guaranteed a little bit for just qualifying in case they don't win any money. I think it is 6k, but that is still pretty pitiful In my opinion.
It is actually 10K......
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yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-17 8:08 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 4:14 PM jojammer - 2013-12-17 3:56 PM Contestants go to Vegas because it's the NFR, not vice versa. Now if these contestants work all year, then at the end trying to make the finals spend most of what they made to get there, they do need to run at more $. If Vegas rakes in all that $ and won't pay more, then I think PRCA should move. How very selfish of the fans to wish the contestants to run at less money so they can go to the finals where they want. If you wanna go to Vegas, just go. I think FL will be better, bigger. I personally would love to see it come back to OKC because it's in the middle of the country, but I really don't care where it is as long as it's good for PRCA contestants. I really don't have a dog in this fight, one way or another. I want to go to the NFR, but I don't care where it's being held, to be honest. That being said, I can think of a dozen places I'd rather visit than Vegas. My initial reaction was it's a bad decision to leave Vegas, but now that I've thought of things, as far as I'm concerned, it might just end up being the right move. All I really care about is pro rodeo and a desire to see it thrive and flourish. Right now, it's just sort of hanging on....clinging. Some of the partcipants didn't make a thin dime. I think that's a dirty shame. That big bulldogger from Canada didn't make a penny for example. He probably lost money this year, for all we know. For goodness sakes, I think the top 15 ought to all at least make something resembling a decent income for a year of top level competition. They are guaranteed a little bit for just qualifying in case they don't win any money. I think it is 6k, but that is still pretty pitiful In my opinion.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It's a pittance. The mere fact that a "correction" has to be made from the purported $6,000 to the "actual" $10,000 speaks for itself. Big whup. | |
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Location: Where it isn’t cold! | yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-17 6:27 PM Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-17 8:11 PM yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-17 8:08 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 4:14 PM jojammer - 2013-12-17 3:56 PM Contestants go to Vegas because it's the NFR, not vice versa. Now if these contestants work all year, then at the end trying to make the finals spend most of what they made to get there, they do need to run at more $. If Vegas rakes in all that $ and won't pay more, then I think PRCA should move. How very selfish of the fans to wish the contestants to run at less money so they can go to the finals where they want. If you wanna go to Vegas, just go. I think FL will be better, bigger. I personally would love to see it come back to OKC because it's in the middle of the country, but I really don't care where it is as long as it's good for PRCA contestants. I really don't have a dog in this fight, one way or another. I want to go to the NFR, but I don't care where it's being held, to be honest. That being said, I can think of a dozen places I'd rather visit than Vegas. My initial reaction was it's a bad decision to leave Vegas, but now that I've thought of things, as far as I'm concerned, it might just end up being the right move. All I really care about is pro rodeo and a desire to see it thrive and flourish. Right now, it's just sort of hanging on....clinging. Some of the partcipants didn't make a thin dime. I think that's a dirty shame. That big bulldogger from Canada didn't make a penny for example. He probably lost money this year, for all we know. For goodness sakes, I think the top 15 ought to all at least make something resembling a decent income for a year of top level competition. They are guaranteed a little bit for just qualifying in case they don't win any money. I think it is 6k, but that is still pretty pitiful In my opinion.
karen It's still not much
Last year was $13,500, this year should have been $14,000. It went up $500 a year the 6 years Brenda went. | |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Shorty 2 - 2013-12-17 9:07 PM yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-17 6:27 PM Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-17 8:11 PM yellowhorse1 - 2013-12-17 8:08 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 4:14 PM jojammer - 2013-12-17 3:56 PM Contestants go to Vegas because it's the NFR, not vice versa. Now if these contestants work all year, then at the end trying to make the finals spend most of what they made to get there, they do need to run at more $. If Vegas rakes in all that $ and won't pay more, then I think PRCA should move. How very selfish of the fans to wish the contestants to run at less money so they can go to the finals where they want. If you wanna go to Vegas, just go. I think FL will be better, bigger. I personally would love to see it come back to OKC because it's in the middle of the country, but I really don't care where it is as long as it's good for PRCA contestants. I really don't have a dog in this fight, one way or another. I want to go to the NFR, but I don't care where it's being held, to be honest. That being said, I can think of a dozen places I'd rather visit than Vegas. My initial reaction was it's a bad decision to leave Vegas, but now that I've thought of things, as far as I'm concerned, it might just end up being the right move. All I really care about is pro rodeo and a desire to see it thrive and flourish. Right now, it's just sort of hanging on....clinging. Some of the partcipants didn't make a thin dime. I think that's a dirty shame. That big bulldogger from Canada didn't make a penny for example. He probably lost money this year, for all we know. For goodness sakes, I think the top 15 ought to all at least make something resembling a decent income for a year of top level competition. They are guaranteed a little bit for just qualifying in case they don't win any money. I think it is 6k, but that is still pretty pitiful In my opinion.
karen It's still not much
Maybe you've answered this somewhere on this 21 page thread and I missed it.  LOL Was wondering what you and Brenda think of the move? | |
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Location: Colorado | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 8:54 PM It's a pittance. The mere fact that a "correction" has to be made from the purported $6,000 to the "actual" $10,000 speaks for itself. Big whup.
Big Whup?? I was corrected and it was $14,000 this year. That money is handed to them just for showing up. Their rooms are paid for, their entries are paid for, horse stalls, etc., etc.. I have yet to see a NFR contestant pay for a meal, a drink. They get a ton of swag from the NFR sponsors and LVE.
The top 10 for Top Gun this year each won well over 100,000. just at the NFR.
The Bareback and Bull riders top money earners BEFORE finals had 200,000. plus.
That does not include sponsorship etc..
I have no problem with price increases and the contestants making money. BUT, lets be realistic they are not homeless either.
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| Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-17 9:25 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 8:54 PM It's a pittance. The mere fact that a "correction" has to be made from the purported $6,000 to the "actual" $10,000 speaks for itself. Big whup. Big Whup?? I was corrected and it was $14,000 this year. That money is handed to them just for showing up. Their rooms are paid for, their entries are paid for, horse stalls, etc., etc.. I have yet to see a NFR contestant pay for a meal, a drink. They get a ton of swag from the NFR sponsors and LVE.
The top 10 for Top Gun this year each won well over 100,000. just at the NFR.
The Bareback and Bull riders top money earners BEFORE finals had 200,000. plus.
That does not include sponsorship etc..
I have no problem with price increases and the contestants making money. BUT, lets be realistic they are not homeless either.
karen
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-17 9:25 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 8:54 PM It's a pittance. The mere fact that a "correction" has to be made from the purported $6,000 to the "actual" $10,000 speaks for itself. Big whup. Big Whup?? I was corrected and it was $14,000 this year. That money is handed to them just for showing up. Their rooms are paid for, their entries are paid for, horse stalls, etc., etc.. I have yet to see a NFR contestant pay for a meal, a drink. They get a ton of swag from the NFR sponsors and LVE.
The top 10 for Top Gun this year each won well over 100,000. just at the NFR.
The Bareback and Bull riders top money earners BEFORE finals had 200,000. plus.
That does not include sponsorship etc..
I have no problem with price increases and the contestants making money. BUT, lets be realistic they are not homeless either.
karen
I don't care if it's $6K as Yellowhorse said, or $10 K as you said, or the current number of $13500. My point all along is that I think it is pathetic that of the 10,000 pros in the PRCA, maybe a handful can earn even a living wage, after expenses. If you qualify for the Pro Bowlers Association, It costs $150 dollars a year to be a member, and even for a pro bowler the average salary runs between $35-40K a year. That's for about 1 bowling event per month, on the average. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2013-12-17 9:25 PM HotbearLVR - 2013-12-17 8:54 PM It's a pittance. The mere fact that a "correction" has to be made from the purported $6,000 to the "actual" $10,000 speaks for itself. Big whup. Big Whup?? I was corrected and it was $14,000 this year. That money is handed to them just for showing up. Their rooms are paid for, their entries are paid for, horse stalls, etc., etc.. I have yet to see a NFR contestant pay for a meal, a drink. They get a ton of swag from the NFR sponsors and LVE.
The top 10 for Top Gun this year each won well over 100,000. just at the NFR.
The Bareback and Bull riders top money earners BEFORE finals had 200,000. plus.
That does not include sponsorship etc..
I have no problem with price increases and the contestants making money. BUT, lets be realistic they are not homeless either.
karen
I don't care if it's $6K as Yellowhorse said, or $10 K as you said, or the current number of $13500. My point all along is that I think it is pathetic that of the 10,000 pros in the PRCA, maybe a handful can earn even a living wage, after expenses. If you qualify for the Pro Bowlers Association, It costs $150 dollars a year to be a member, and even for a pro bowler the average salary runs between $35-40K a year. That's for about 1 bowling event per month, on the average. | |
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