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Location: The South | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-10 8:14 AM
 I've got to buy feed today and am still confused about what to do.  I obviously don't need to continue with ADM, but I don't like my other choices, which are Purina and Nutrena.  I can get clean local oats and alfalfa pellets for the younger horses, but that doesn't help me with the oldies.
Are you friends with Josh Andrews on FB?
I've seen some posts about delivering Blue Bonnet to different areas; I don't know how far south he's going.
I wish you were closer and I'd meet you halfway!
I fed Seniorglo to my old guy...not anymore. So sad. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | LindsayJordan84 - 2015-02-10 7:19 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-10 8:14 AM I've got to buy feed today and am still confused about what to do. I obviously don't need to continue with ADM, but I don't like my other choices, which are Purina and Nutrena. I can get clean local oats and alfalfa pellets for the younger horses, but that doesn't help me with the oldies. Are you friends with Josh Andrews on FB? I've seen some posts about delivering Blue Bonnet to different areas; I don't know how far south he's going. I wish you were closer and I'd meet you halfway! I fed Seniorglo to my old guy...not anymore. So sad.
I've heard great things about Bluebonnet, but I doubt he would be bringing it far enough this direction to be practical.  |
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 10:57 AM This is a Thesis that was written by a student at Kansas State. It's an excellent illustration of the process and the levels of drug carryover that you can expect along the way in the flushing/feed mixing process. I understand that it's a very long paper, but it's a very informational read and has tables toward the end that show the levels of monensin that were present in the supposed unmedicated feed.
http://krex.k-state.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/2097/1025/AdrianMartinez-Kawas2008.pdf?sequence=1
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | This is freaking me out!!
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Location: Here | Leo - 2015-02-10 8:27 PM This is freaking me out!! just saying....
We all need to be educated on this and speak up about seperate mills for our horses |
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Location: Here | Thistle2011 - 2015-02-09 10:07 PM Adm is going to put a hit on me....i copyed the link and posted it all over there facebook page
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | SG. - 2015-02-10 8:30 PM
Leo - 2015-02-10 8:27 PM This is freaking me out!! just saying....
We all need to be educated on this and speak up about seperate mills for our horsesÂ
I know, it's just the thought that this could possibly be the culprit for all the 'colicy' horses over the years. Being poisoned and no one knowing any better. Just makes me sick to my stomach. I've lost one to colic and got a baby right now who has 'belly problems'.
I recently switched to Nutrena SafeChoice and even though they assure me that my feed comes from an ionophore free mill, I can't help but wonder if I didn't just trade one evil for another.
I used to feed TC, but had big issues with the consistency. Beginning to think Renew Gold with Chaffehay might just be the way to go.
I need to buy feed tomorrow....I pretty much don't know what to buy and it's stressing me out... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 10:57 AM This is a Thesis that was written by a student at Kansas State. It's an excellent illustration of the process and the levels of drug carryover that you can expect along the way in the flushing/feed mixing process. I understand that it's a very long paper, but it's a very informational read and has tables toward the end that show the levels of monensin that were present in the supposed unmedicated feed.
http://krex.k-state.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/2097/1025/AdrianMartinez-Kawas2008.pdf?sequence=1
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Location: Florida.. | Leo - 2015-02-10 9:39 PM SG. - 2015-02-10 8:30 PM Leo - 2015-02-10 8:27 PM This is freaking me out!! just saying.... We all need to be educated on this and speak up about seperate mills for our horses I know, it's just the thought that this could possibly be the culprit for all the 'colicy' horses over the years. Being poisoned and no one knowing any better. Just makes me sick to my stomach. I've lost one to colic and got a baby right now who has 'belly problems'. I recently switched to Nutrena SafeChoice and even though they assure me that my feed comes from an ionophore free mill, I can't help but wonder if I didn't just trade one evil for another. I used to feed TC, but had big issues with the consistency. Beginning to think Renew Gold with Chaffehay might just be the way to go. I need to buy feed tomorrow....I pretty much don't know what to buy and it's stressing me out...
I was thinking about the ones that resembled tying up.. breaking out in sweats.. heart racing.. muscle issues etc to.. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:47 PM
Leo - 2015-02-10 9:39 PM SG. - 2015-02-10 8:30 PM Leo - 2015-02-10 8:27 PM This is freaking me out!! just saying.... We all need to be educated on this and speak up about seperate mills for our horses I know, it's just the thought that this could possibly be the culprit for all the 'colicy' horses over the years. Being poisoned and no one knowing any better. Just makes me sick to my stomach. I've lost one to colic and got a baby right now who has 'belly problems'. I recently switched to Nutrena SafeChoice and even though they assure me that my feed comes from an ionophore free mill, I can't help but wonder if I didn't just trade one evil for another. I used to feed TC, but had big issues with the consistency. Beginning to think Renew Gold with Chaffehay might just be the way to go. I need to buy feed tomorrow....I pretty much don't know what to buy and it's stressing me out...
I agree. I've got a friend that has had nothing but trouble with her horse's tying up and having muscle twitch issues. I told her there is a common denominator somewhere and that she just has to find it. I would bet $$$ her good mare is PSSM positive but the other mare doesn't really fit that bill. Now that I think about it, her feed comes from a cattle mill.....has for years and years...
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Location: Arkansas | Shreveport plant for Purina is good----Brenda sent me an email today when I told her what my bag said on the bottom. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | This is definitely a very old problem that's just never seen much light.... I hope we can remedy that and get more people educated. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | I really hope this information can make the feed companies change but if it does I'm thinking they are gonna make us pay for it!$$$$$$ |
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Location: Arkansas | Shreveport plant for Purina is safe |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:47 PM Leo - 2015-02-10 9:39 PM SG. - 2015-02-10 8:30 PM Leo - 2015-02-10 8:27 PM This is freaking me out!! just saying.... We all need to be educated on this and speak up about seperate mills for our horses I know, it's just the thought that this could possibly be the culprit for all the 'colicy' horses over the years. Being poisoned and no one knowing any better. Just makes me sick to my stomach. I've lost one to colic and got a baby right now who has 'belly problems'. I recently switched to Nutrena SafeChoice and even though they assure me that my feed comes from an ionophore free mill, I can't help but wonder if I didn't just trade one evil for another. I used to feed TC, but had big issues with the consistency. Beginning to think Renew Gold with Chaffehay might just be the way to go. I need to buy feed tomorrow....I pretty much don't know what to buy and it's stressing me out...
This right here is what is freaking me out. My old gelding that is prone to tying up, I had a vet check him at a barrel race because he was sweating and as she put it - "classic signs of heart failure" He's had loose poop, not runny just a little on the loose side. all the rest of my horses are fed plain oats or just on pasture/hay and Woody's to my good mare. The Safechoice I had been feeding my old man may or may not be the culprit to his issues. I feel horrible. I've done what I think is best for my old friend. Who knew. |
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Location: Here | Cya all of us only want the best for our partners I so understand I lost an older horse several years ago to bad feed and I could prove it all they did was replace my feed Just wrong that feed companies know how toxic this crap is and yet they just don't care what it does to the horses |
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Location: Here | Nevertooold - 2015-02-10 8:45 PM
rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 10:57 AM This is a Thesis that was written by a student at Kansas State. Â It's an excellent illustration of the process and the levels of drug carryover that you can expect along the way in the flushing/feed mixing process. Â I understand that it's a very long paper, but it's a very informational read and has tables toward the end that show the levels of monensin that were present in the supposed unmedicated feed.
http://krex.k-state.edu/dspace/bitstream/handle/2097/1025/AdrianMartinez-Kawas2008.pdf?sequence=1
It opens on my phone but it is 78 pages and my computer doesn't want to be patient enough |
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Location: Georgia | Several years ago I had 3 horses to colic and one die from contaminated feed. Just last year one of these horses was diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia and damage that I suspect could have started with that previous bad feed episode. Horse illness/death has occurred with different feed brands in the past. ANY BRAND that is mixed at a facility that is not "Ionophore free" can have contaminated horse feed! You should contact your feed company ( whatever feed you use) and ask if the mill that supplies your store uses Monensin (Rumensin or other Ionophores) at their facility. If they use it, tell them you are changing feed companies! To watch your horses die because of something you fed them is truly heart breaking!
It is time we stand up and DEMAND that all horse feed be mixed at an "ionophore free" facility. Start by going to Facebook sites of ALL feed companies who are playing russian roulette with the lives of our horses. Let them know that we are not going to let this continue! Even if you don't use their feed, please speak up for ALL HORSES! Post & Share on Facebook asking all your friends to support the drive to stop this deadly practice! |
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How about a sticky thread with the brand names and locations of acceptable feed?
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Location: Florida.. | It is being spread everywhere.. its not just adm..
adm has just had the issues.. now surface..
Its in eventing magazines and dressage magazines and FB and horsepro and I am sure alot other areas.. This wont settle.. The companies will have to be active to clean this up or they will lose alot more business.. Did we want this to happen?? NO.. most of us Loved our feed companies and LOYAL CUSTOMERS.. I know I was.. but not anymore. |
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