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| runningkc - 2013-09-20 9:44 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM
StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM
In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.
By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.
I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.
So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Andddd with that comment off I will go. Lol.
LOL I wasn't meaning it rudely. I was just re stating what she said, but in just less words. I know I can't really ride but I'm self taught and that's my problem I can't really afford weekly lessons. I wish I could, but I don't have a job right now. I had a horse flip and break my femur about 14 weeks ago. |
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| BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:47 PM
runningkc - 2013-09-20 9:44 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM
StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM
In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.
By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.
I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.
So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Andddd with that comment off I will go. Lol.
LOL I wasn't meaning it rudely. I was just re stating what she said, but in just less words. I know I can't really ride but I'm self taught and that's my problem I can't really afford weekly lessons. I wish I could, but I don't have a job right now. I had a horse flip and break my femur about 14 weeks ago.
Baylenjaxs, please don't denegrate yourself by saying you're a "fatass and can't ride". Its ok to be a novice, no one pops out of the womb riding beautifully. Its a lifelong learning process. The thing is you have to be hungry for information and seek it out and try to improve. It can be done. There are TONS of people who are largely self taught. I soooo wish I would have had youtube when I was a kid to watch all the different ways to skin a cat. |
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| BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:47 PM
runningkc - 2013-09-20 9:44 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM
StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM
In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.
By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.
I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.
So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Andddd with that comment off I will go. Lol.
LOL I wasn't meaning it rudely. I was just re stating what she said, but in just less words. I know I can't really ride but I'm self taught and that's my problem I can't really afford weekly lessons. I wish I could, but I don't have a job right now. I had a horse flip and break my femur about 14 weeks ago.
I don't think you necessarily need lessons every week.... just go back to the basics. Ride with your legs- try to control your horse without even using your reins. Pretend like they're not even there. Doing this at nothing but a walk will help tremendously.
To find your perfect seat- stand up in your stirrups, tuck your butt in (basically squeeze your butt cheeks together and forward LOL) and sit down but you MUST keep your legs in the same position they were when you were standing up in the saddle. Make sense???? Once you find your "seat", just walk around.... put your arms straight out to the side to help find your perfect balance. Once you master this "seat" you can move up to a trot....and practice posting. This alone will make a huge difference in your horse. |
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Location: Washington | runningkc - 2013-09-20 7:39 PM fatchance - 2013-09-20 9:04 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 7:00 PM fatchance - 2013-09-20 8:58 PM She hasn't a clue. She is fat and I got dizzy on the two left turns. She's not fat, she's been ridden all summer/spring long. I'm sorry you got dizzy. Sure not trying to attack you fatchance, but why the nasty under tones? The OP stated in her original post that "she sucked" and is obviously open to ideas and trying to learn. Your post is a perfect example of what I see much to often that I'm sure scares off new members and lurkers from asking for help. Maybe you mean well, I don't know. If you do, it doesn't translate well through the computer screen. Many of us do many many things wrong as beginner (or even intermediate or advanced ) horsewoman, and its hard enough as it is to admit ignorance and ask for help. Please don't contribute to making it harder.
Fair enough. I have always tried to help, but because my undertones do not fit many I am taken as rude? Sorry about that, because that is the last thing I want.
I must say this in my defense, there was and has never been any nasty undertones on my part. She said she sucks, I said the horse doesn't know and is fat.
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Location: NC | Ok. I have been here (minus the horse injury thing).
I will say this as nicely as possible. Remember, I HAVE BEEN THERE. I just rode for a long time, no real lessons/trainers/etc.
If you want to stay as a recreational rider, or just do small playdays/game show type things, then keep on doing what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with it.
But if you want to get better & excel & ride TRUE barrel horses, run in the big shows, make it to the NFR, etc, you NEED lessons. You NEED to learn about 500 things that you just don't know yet, & you'll only learn on a TRUE horse with a TRUE trainer. You need to learn how to control every part of that horse independently. You need to learn how to react if you need to push one over, if you need to pick one up, etc. These are all things you will NEED to know if you want to move up & on & get better!
It took until this year for me to wake up & realize: holy crap. I don't know how to ride a REAL barrel horse. So I learned! And it's an eye opener. You almost have to re-learn how to ride. You need to have quiet hands. You need to ride with your legs. You need to learn how to control every part of the horse. And this is only learned from GOOD lessons. |
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| StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:52 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:47 PM
runningkc - 2013-09-20 9:44 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM
StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM
In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse.
By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot.
I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle.
So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Andddd with that comment off I will go. Lol.
LOL I wasn't meaning it rudely. I was just re stating what she said, but in just less words. I know I can't really ride but I'm self taught and that's my problem I can't really afford weekly lessons. I wish I could, but I don't have a job right now. I had a horse flip and break my femur about 14 weeks ago.
I don't think you necessarily need lessons every week.... just go back to the basics. Ride with your legs- try to control your horse without even using your reins. Pretend like they're not even there. Doing this at nothing but a walk will help tremendously.
To find your perfect seat- stand up in your stirrups, tuck your butt in (basically squeeze your butt cheeks together and forward LOL ) and sit down but you MUST keep your legs in the same position they were when you were standing up in the saddle. Make sense???? Once you find your "seat", just walk around.... put your arms straight out to the side to help find your perfect balance. Once you master this "seat" you can move up to a trot....and practice posting. This alone will make a huge difference in your horse.
I can't stand a whole lot in the saddle yet. I was working under a trainer down here and I got on a horse trotted then loped she broke into and flipped over on me and broke my femur. Its a pain just to get on from a boost on my left leg. It is honestly my fault my horse is going the way she is. I just don't have my leg back and the doctor said it will only be at 8 percent in a year. This mare for me at a trot is so hard to ride. My other mare isn't she has a smooth trot you can sit or post easily and does a whole lot better off leg. I just feel bad cause its my fault my chestnut is doing what she's doing. |
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| hlynn - 2013-09-20 9:56 PM
Ok. I have been here (minus the horse injury thing).
I will say this as nicely as possible. Remember, I HAVE BEEN THERE. I just rode for a long time, no real lessons/trainers/etc.
If you want to stay as a recreational rider, or just do small playdays/game show type things, then keep on doing what you're doing. There's nothing wrong with it.
But if you want to get better & excel & ride TRUE barrel horses, run in the big shows, make it to the NFR, etc, you NEED lessons. You NEED to learn about 500 things that you just don't know yet, & you'll only learn on a TRUE horse with a TRUE trainer. You need to learn how to control every part of that horse independently. You need to learn how to react if you need to push one over, if you need to pick one up, etc. These are all things you will NEED to know if you want to move up & on & get better!
It took until this year for me to wake up & realize: holy crap. I don't know how to ride a REAL barrel horse. So I learned! And it's an eye opener. You almost have to re-learn how to ride. You need to have quiet hands. You need to ride with your legs. You need to learn how to control every part of the horse. And this is only learned from GOOD lessons.
I like you C:. I;ve got a lady I am going to get lessons from, she was helping me last year. I just stopped going because it got close to winter and cold. Thank you everyone who has given me advice, I will take it. |
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Location: Kansas | I'm sorry for your acident and injury.
If you can't ride correctly and efficently, how to you expect your horse to preform correctly? |
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| Sangria - 2013-09-20 10:05 PM
I'm sorry for your acident and injury.
If you can't ride correctly and efficently, how to you expect your horse to preform correctly?
That's what I am saying. My horse sin't doing what she's supposed to do because of how I am riding. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse. By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot. I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle. So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
This is the reason many old timers on here don't give advice anymore. We give advice and don't sugar coat things as that doesn't help anyone to get better.
Many of you would have never survived some of the clinics I've attended in my lifetime and I paid to get hollered at.. |
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| Nevertooold - 2013-09-20 10:06 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse. By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot. I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle. So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Many of you would have never survived some of the clinics I've attended in my lifetime and I paid to get hollered at..
I was meaning it to be funny. I wasn't not taking her advice. |
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Location: Florida.. | Nevertooold - 2013-09-20 11:06 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse. By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot. I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle. So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Many of you would have never survived some of the clinics I've attended in my lifetime and I paid to get hollered at..
me to.. if the clincians didnt yell. push. critsize, be brutal .. it wasnt worth the money to me. I want to walk outta there knowing I can change things and how to .. not sugar coat things. |
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| There is actually a NBHA clinic tomorrow at my saddle club. If I had the money to go I would, because its a really good trainer teaching it. I was going to take my chestnut, the one in the video if I had, had enough money. But I don't I tred selling crap ect nobody wanted anything so I am unable to go. |
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Location: Kansas | BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 10:05 PM Sangria - 2013-09-20 10:05 PM I'm sorry for your acident and injury.
If you can't ride correctly and efficently, how to you expect your horse to preform correctly? That's what I am saying. My horse sin't doing what she's supposed to do because of how I am riding.
Then why are you asking for advise and working her on the pattern?
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| Bibliafarm - 2013-09-20 10:08 PM
Nevertooold - 2013-09-20 11:06 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse. By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot. I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle. So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Many of you would have never survived some of the clinics I've attended in my lifetime and I paid to get hollered at..
I think there is a big difference in being given "brutally honest" direction in person as opposed to the written word. Even when I've been being yelled at, the person doing it could gauge my reaction and temper it with some small encouragement as well. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 10:10 PM
There is actually a NBHA clinic tomorrow at my saddle club. If I had the money to go I would, because its a really good trainer teaching it. I was going to take my chestnut, the one in the video if I had, had enough money. But I don't I tred selling crap ect nobody wanted anything so I am unable to go.
Go audit it. Watch and listen. |
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Location: Kansas | Bibliafarm - 2013-09-20 10:08 PM Nevertooold - 2013-09-20 11:06 PM BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 9:41 PM StephanieNE - 2013-09-20 9:35 PM In all honesty---- the horse looks a little sore, but mostly like it doesn't know how to use itself. Quite possibly a rider induced soreness- multiple circling to the left with no back relief. Learning to post the trot can provide a lot of back relief to the horse. By hanging on the horse's face to gain your balance, you're throwing all the horse's weight forward, but by sitting down heavy, you're putting a lot of pressure on the spine. This creates a "break" in the horse's frame and makes it almost impossible to keep a horse sound. This horse doesn't even know how to trot. I would put the barrels away. Completely. To be brutally honest- your seat and riding skills need a lot of work before you even begin to think about making a circle. So your basically saying I'm at fat ass flopping around up there who cannot ride worth crap xD!?
Many of you would have never survived some of the clinics I've attended in my lifetime and I paid to get hollered at..
I agree.
Many times the truth hurts and tears you apart, but if you want to succeed, you suck it up, take it to heart, try to become positive, work hard on it and in the long run it will pay off.
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| BaylenJaxs - 2013-09-20 10:10 PM
There is actually a NBHA clinic tomorrow at my saddle club. If I had the money to go I would, because its a really good trainer teaching it. I was going to take my chestnut, the one in the video if I had, had enough money. But I don't I tred selling crap ect nobody wanted anything so I am unable to go.
So, is that the deal at Everton? Who is teaching it? I saw they were having a clinic on facebook but I didn't see who was teaching it. I didn't think Everton was 2hours from Republic? |
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Location: Florida.. | Not sure what that meant.. i dont think my posts were being rude to her.I was stating though at clincis i expect it.. and seems on threads people always get upset and when no harm was intended.. they asked .. for advice.. and others give it.. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | I may be totally off because I couldn't see well in the video.... But, aren't those wraps really low on her back legs and inhibiting her movement some? I agree with FC that she doesn't look fit and probably doesn't have the core muscles needed to hold the turn.
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