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| BaylenJaxs - 2013-11-24 6:40 PM
Had a thought. Is there anyway if you can look up, if her mom had a foal in 1997?? I filly??
It will only tell you what foals were registered, does not include non registered foals |
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| cheryl makofka - 2013-11-24 6:57 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-11-24 6:40 PM
Had a thought. Is there anyway if you can look up, if her mom had a foal in 1997?? I filly??
It will only tell you what foals were registered, does not include non registered foals
No I know. But if the filly was born in 1997, it might possibly be my mare. I have no idea this thing sucks, big time xD. To much trouble, I'm done. |
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This is the most current Coggins test? WOW It is illegal to sell a horse in TX without a current Coggins test. It is the seller's responsibility. That is the second question that I ask the seller---Is the Coggins current.
Those do not appear to be registration papers and you will need to have way more than a signed transfer. By the way, it costs at least $300 to register at that age and another $65 to verify parentage, which you have to have to breed the mare.
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| Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 6:52 PM
There is one registered sorrel filly 1997 from that cross. Her name is "Hopes Fancy Cat". Allbreed shows three foals in 1997 for that cross.Β Β
If there is already one foal registered from that cross in that year you are now hooped, as aqha will reject it as it is very unlikely the dam would have had twins.
Sorry girl you got taken |
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| Honeymoney - 2013-11-24 7:00 PM
This is the most current Coggins test? WOW It is illegal to sell a horse in TX without a current Coggins test. It is the seller's responsibility. That is the second question that I ask the seller---Is the Coggins current.
No no!!! That is the coggins tied to the application thingy. Her coggins was pulled last year. |
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    Location: Texas | What color is your mare? The owners and breeders are accurate for "Hopes Fancy Cat" as per your documents. Last recoreded owner is 2008. Where did you get the name Dash Blue Sugar? |
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           Location: Florida.. | cheryl makofka - 2013-11-24 8:00 PM Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 6:52 PM There is one registered sorrel filly 1997 from that cross. Her name is "Hopes Fancy Cat". Allbreed shows three foals in 1997 for that cross. If there is already one foal registered from that cross in that year you are now hooped, as aqha will reject it as it is very unlikely the dam would have had twins. Sorry girl you got taken
yes she did.. if her mare isnt registered...
might not be her papers.. either.. |
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| Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 7:01 PM
What color is your mare? The owners and breeders are accurate for "Hopes Fancy Cat" as per your documents. Last recoreded owner is 2008. Where did you get the name Dash Blue Sugar? Β
Its what was written on the Envelope and what was written on the big yellow folder I got. She's gray now, white basically. I don't know if she totally went from gray to white(yes I know there is no such thing as a white horse but its only how I can think of her color). Coggins that was pulled on her first say that she has a blaze, she doesn't have the blaze anymore, but she does have the white marking on her nose. Said she had a sock too, but its all white now. |
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| She had a half brother that came from the same place she did. Her half brother and her were both owned by the lady I got her from. And he was a registered QH out ot Twisty Hope Quincy. |
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    Location: Texas | Somebody (at a salebarn most likely) messed up the papers. The only actually registerd filly to that sire and dam in 1997 is a SORREL. If I were you I'd toss the documents you have as they are worthless. |
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           Location: Florida.. | says on her papers she was bought at a stockyard so Id guess they arent here papers..
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| Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 7:07 PM
SomebodyΒ (at a salebarn most likely) messed up the papers. The only actually registerd filly to that sire and dam in 1997 is a SORREL. If I were you I'd toss the documents you have as they are worthless.Β
Awesome -_-!!! So chances are she's either younger or older then I think she is to be and possibly is registered but I will never be able to find out? |
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| Bibliafarm - 2013-11-24 7:08 PM
she was bought at aΒ stockyardΒ ?
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Springfield Missouri Horse Auction yes. |
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           Location: Florida.. | BaylenJaxs - 2013-11-24 8:09 PM Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 7:07 PM Somebody (at a salebarn most likely) messed up the papers. The only actually registerd filly to that sire and dam in 1997 is a SORREL. If I were you I'd toss the documents you have as they are worthless. Awesome -_-!!! So chances are she's either younger or older then I think she is to be and possibly is registered but I will never be able to find out?

if shes registered and you cant find out you cant register her foal so it makes no differance. |
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        Location: ND | wow...three pages on this......
no....based on what is provided, your horse is not registered.....although obviously, AQHA has told you this already.......
what you have is an old faded registration application......the horse sold with the application.....as do many horses.....nothing wrong with that......nobody obviously thought it was worth registering her.....that previously owned her anyway.....
i'm not sure why, if you have a signed registration application, that AQHA needs a transfer but i guess if you can't read anything on it, then it's a problem......and thus need a transfer to send in with the application.......
so, i guess that leaves you where your at....if they don't want to give you a transfer then you're just out of luck....and honestly, i don't think i'd be to ****ed with them....i'd wonder too if some crazy lady called me about some sixteen year old horse that they wanted a transfer on that i sold.....not that i wouldn't necessarily do it but i don't think it should irritate you if they don't .....you knew the horse had never been registered when you bought it.... |
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| Bibliafarm - 2013-11-24 7:10 PM
BaylenJaxs - 2013-11-24 8:09 PM Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 7:07 PM SomebodyΒ (at a salebarn most likely) messed up the papers. The only actually registerd filly to that sire and dam in 1997 is a SORREL. If I were you I'd toss the documents you have as they are worthless.Β Awesome -_-!!! So chances are she's either younger or older then I think she is to be and possibly is registered but I will never be able to find out?
if shes registered and you cant find out you cant register herΒ foal so it makes no differance.Β
Exactly. I am so bummed out right now xD! |
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        Location: ND | Cowjazz - 2013-11-24 7:07 PM Somebody (at a salebarn most likely) messed up the papers. The only actually registerd filly to that sire and dam in 1997 is a SORREL. If I were you I'd toss the documents you have as they are worthless.
i wouldn't put much stock in going by the color on a set of papers.....they may or may not be right......either way, your bigger point is spot on.....forget breeding her for a colt with papers anyway..... |
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           Location: Florida.. | exactly what he said.
you bought a grade mare ..
and will have to do your homework next time you buy to make sure everything is in order.. |
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| Thank you for all the help guys. |
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    Location: Texas | Chances and facts conclude thta you have a Grade mare of unknown history. |
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