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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:16 PM Haven't we already discussed this about 800 times?  At least 1000 times and the answers and opinions never never ever vary.
Well, then pass the popcorn, please......
I am serving margueritas with the popcorn. Makes the repititious dialog more palatable. |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:30 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:16 PM Haven't we already discussed this about 800 times?  At least 1000 times and the answers and opinions never never ever vary.
Well, then pass the popcorn, please...... I am serving margueritas with the popcorn. Makes the repititious dialog more palatable.
Fantastic!! I'll take two :) |
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   Location: WI | Why stop equal payouts at the divisions? Do you think the placings should be equal as well? Everybody in the top 5 of every division gets the same paycheck? |
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 Wishing I were a Wildcat
    Location: 'Hawk Country | SHORTHORSE - 2013-11-25 3:09 PM Sooo if all the 2-5d horses don't deserve to get paid the same even though it cost us the same to entry fee, fuel, feed, vet bills, maybe we just need to stay home and then the 1D horses can run against each other for a WHOLE LOT less money. I am a supporter of equal payouts. There are more horses that run in the 2-5d at a big race than in the 1D. JMO
With that logic....1D horses should cost/be worth the same as 5D horses.
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| Just curious? The big D's don't do equal pay, do they? I haven't been to one. They are usually more geared towards NBHA payout. That's where I see the "cream of the crop" horses run. The Equal pay races usually don't have 300 or above entries. I like equal pay, but I also agree with the fastest horse getting paid more. However, if it wasn't for D barrel races, then no one could sell the slower horses. I wonder when you market your slower horses, if you think about the lesser money they will win. So therefore are they worth $10,000/ $15,000? I see some advertised for that. Not trying to start a war, just thought everyone should consider what the cost of owning a horse is and hauling down the road is. EXPENSIVE FOR ALL! |
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| LRQHS - 2013-11-25 1:32 PM
SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:30 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:24 PM SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 3:23 PM LRQHS - 2013-11-25 3:16 PM Haven't we already discussed this about 800 times?   At least 1000 times and the answers and opinions never never ever vary.
 Well, then pass the popcorn, please...... I am serving margueritas with the popcorn. Makes the repititious dialog more palatable. Â
Fantastic!! I'll take two :)Â
I searched for anything in the last year on bhw about equal payouts and saw nothing. That's why I posted. Thanks. |
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    Location: 'Hawk Country | linds - 2013-11-25 3:32 PM Why stop equal payouts at the divisions? Do you think the placings should be equal as well? Everybody in the top 5 of every division gets the same paycheck?
Better yet....
everyone send their entries in, stay home and wait to receive a check that has taken the entire pot and divided it evenly for everyone who entered. |
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| linds - 2013-11-25 1:32 PM
Why stop equal payouts at the divisions? Â Do you think the placings should be equal as well? Â Everybody in the top 5 of every division gets the same paycheck?Â
That's exactly what our jackpots are like. |
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     Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | Anybody want Popcorn ?
got it hot right here and enough to go around.
Ill let y'all discus this why I am over here like 
Edited by God Is My Light 2013-11-25 3:44 PM
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| stetchkk - 2013-11-25 3:39 PM
linds - 2013-11-25 1:32 PM
Why stop equal payouts at the divisions? Â Do you think the placings should be equal as well? Â Everybody in the top 5 of every division gets the same paycheck?Â
That's exactly what our jackpots are like.
Say what WIllis?
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      Location: sunny california | ozcancrasher13 - 2013-11-25 1:38 PM linds - 2013-11-25 3:32 PM Why stop equal payouts at the divisions? Do you think the placings should be equal as well? Everybody in the top 5 of every division gets the same paycheck? Better yet....
everyone send their entries in, stay home and wait to receive a check that has taken the entire pot and divided it evenly for everyone who entered.
i know we could make it a video game you spin the wheel and whatever time you land on is your time. Love it ! I could save thousands per year and not have to worry about keeping a sound horse |
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | Obviously no producer can come up with a format that satisfies all the barrel racers all of the time. Heck they are lucky if they make half of the barrel racers happy some of the time. So be aware of the pertinent rules and facts and if they don't fit your agenda, then don't pay up. There wil be more barrel races down the road. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I think everyone should win something. Keep the 4D format. Give the top 5 equal amounts and give the same amount to each "D". Give the rest participation ribbons and the usual trinkets. That's the only way to keep it fair. |
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    Location: That part of Texas | clover girl - 2013-11-25 2:30 PM This is a highly debated topic. You can do a search on here and probably find another (really long and heated) thread about this subject. There are good arguments for both sides, but in reality it all just depends on the producer. In my area there are many races of each kind and they all draw about the same amount of contestants, and usually many of the same contestants.
IMO the fastest run should get the biggest paycheck, and last place in the bottom D should get at least their fees back.
Yup, it's out there and I think it happened around this time last year if I'm not mistaken? I'm still missing a piece of hide off of my backside from that one so I think I'll refrain from playing this time around.    |
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I remember that one.....@RR lol you can join me and the other poster for Popcorn ?  |
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     Location: west of East Texas | I just looked at the last three races I entered. There was an average of 152 runners and 8% were in the 1D. Even with equal payouts, they won 25% of the jackpot and their odds of winning a check are considerably higher in that D. I don't have a problem with that. You kind of have to keep the 3D and 4D coming back or there won't be much in the purse. If I'm running a 3D horse, I'm going to pick an equal payout race over the other. If I'm running a 1D horse, I don't consider myself to be in the same race as the other divisions and consider the 1D to have added money. |
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    Location: Oklahoma | LP22654 - 2013-11-25 3:35 PM Just curious? The big D's don't do equal pay, do they? I haven't been to one. They are usually more geared towards NBHA payout. That's where I see the "cream of the crop" horses run. The Equal pay races usually don't have 300 or above entries. I like equal pay, but I also agree with the fastest horse getting paid more. However, if it wasn't for D barrel races, then no one could sell the slower horses. I wonder when you market your slower horses, if you think about the lesser money they will win. So therefore are they worth $10,000/ $15,000? I see some advertised for that. Not trying to start a war, just thought everyone should consider what the cost of owning a horse is and hauling down the road is. EXPENSIVE FOR ALL!
Again.. It just depends on where you are running.. There are quite a few around here that have 200-400 runners and have equal payout. |
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      Location: Texas | Oh brother can I have some of that popcorn? This has potential to get Ugly! |
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     Location: Exactly where I am supposed to be | barrelbasher - 2013-11-25 4:28 PM
Oh brother can I have some of that popcorn? This has potential to get Ugly!
Sure lol  |
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Nut Case Expert
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      Location: Tulsa, Ok | God Is My Light - 2013-11-25 4:35 PM barrelbasher - 2013-11-25 4:28 PM Oh brother can I have some of that popcorn? This has potential to get Ugly! Sure lol 
Some of us are having margueritas with our popcorn. |
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