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| total performance - 2013-12-09 1:39 PM Pic 1-pic 2...what a difference. I would use Underwoods and Baking Powder on it. I had a mare that gashed herself open way worse than that from the front of her chest down and back up to her girth area. Started Underwoods and it healed without a scar. Amazing stuff. Underwoods is the amazing stuff. I have never found anything that works better. And it doesn't seem to sting too bad. ETA: It is also easy to use in the winter because you are not supposed to clean the wound at all. Just spray on and cover with baking powder as many times a day as you can manage. It works great, especially on fleshy wounds like this.
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| I would try Equaide. Look it up on line and see the results. I have used it twice and I was amazed at how fast the wound disappeared. You could see the difference in the size of it from one day to the next. No proud flesh. I would clean first with Vetricyn and then apply the Equaide. I think you'll be amazed. Sorry I don't have any pictures. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | where can I get Underwoods? I thought I had some on the way but it fell through. Their pictures on facebook had a wound just like this, but a T post caused theirs and the recovery was amazing. I did a google search and got everything but a place to order it and didn't find any on ebay doing a quick search. Anyone on here sell it? I'm all for supporting our board members. Thanks for the nice thoughts. The vet called to check on him. I told her it isn't any better...but not any worse either. She laughed and said that is a good thing.
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  Location: kentucky | wyoming barrel racer - 2013-12-10 1:52 PM where can I get Underwoods? I thought I had some on the way but it fell through. Their pictures on facebook had a wound just like this, but a T post caused theirs and the recovery was amazing. I did a google search and got everything but a place to order it and didn't find any on ebay doing a quick search. Anyone on here sell it? I'm all for supporting our board members. Thanks for the nice thoughts. The vet called to check on him. I told her it isn't any better...but not any worse either. She laughed and said that is a good thing.
Here is there website, I had a baby cut her back leg open pretty bad and vetracyn was not touching it along with some other things people had suggested so I ordered this and it was amazing how fast it started healing ! And the old fella is so helpful ! He will talk your ear off ! He is very wise on horse wounds and said he was there 24/7 and to call anytime !http://www.underwoodhorsemedicine.com/ |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | If it were me, I would wash at least 2-3 times a day with warm soap and water, using a soft brush. That would be the biggest priority. The Veterycin might help too, but warm soapy water would be the most important. I like dial soap or something bacteriocidal. Maybe the best approach would be to wash, then blot dry, and spray with Veterycin. I don't think "covering" it would be very helpful, especially since you are keeping the stall clean. He might fuss at first, but they get used to it. You are basically debriding the wound, and that is the most important thing. It looks great! |
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  Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | We had a horse that looked like this from coming down on a t-post and impaling himself in the chest. The vet said there wasn't much we could do about it except try to keep it clean. However, we did have an odd issue arise out of it--this horse had apparently poked a hole in some part of his air tract and the air was escaping back into his body cavity. Since it didn't have anywhere to go, it began to seep under the skin, and that's where it all went until the hole closed itself. Our vet called him the Hindenberg (and still does to this day), because he literally blew up like a balloon--you could pop his skin and it sounded like an air mattress. We had to put pantyhose on his head to keep his head from becoming so swollen that he couldn't see. So the only "normal" part of him was what was restricted with pantyhose. True story. I wish we had taken pictures, because it was by far the craziest thing we have ever had happen. |
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| Ouch! I hope you post update pics for us- would love to see how that heals up! I agree with everyone else on here, keep it clean and soft, and let mother nature take care of the rest for you! My Frenchman's Guy colt ripped a 12" X 4" chunk out of his shoulder last week, crazy how this always happens to the good ones! Good luck and keep us posted!
eta: I put a blanket on my colt- he was lucky to be caught early enough to be stitched, but I've seen ones that weren't stitched that also healed up very nicely. I had a broodie that had a vicious fight with something a few years ago and her chest wound looked real similar to yours- we never stitched it, and now you can't even see a scar. I didn't even do alot of doctoring in her, broodies can be such a pain to deal with, just kept the crud out of it and gave her the prescribed course of antibiotics.
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I was hydroing this when the weather was warmer. Now that the weather is not allowing it I have been scrubbing with warm water and betadine. I dry it off and apply furasone. Best guess is he impelled himself on something. Never found any debris. I started off with oral antibiotics but he was a bear giving them to. Now we have switched to exceed every 4 days. I will continue to use exceed until the tunnel heals up. The very top right has a tunnel that is about as deep as my pointer finger.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | SoonerLawyer - 2013-12-10 3:10 PM We had a horse that looked like this from coming down on a t-post and impaling himself in the chest. The vet said there wasn't much we could do about it except try to keep it clean. However, we did have an odd issue arise out of it--this horse had apparently poked a hole in some part of his air tract and the air was escaping back into his body cavity. Since it didn't have anywhere to go, it began to seep under the skin, and that's where it all went until the hole closed itself. Our vet called him the Hindenberg (and still does to this day), because he literally blew up like a balloon--you could pop his skin and it sounded like an air mattress. We had to put pantyhose on his head to keep his head from becoming so swollen that he couldn't see. So the only "normal" part of him was what was restricted with pantyhose. True story. I wish we had taken pictures, because it was by far the craziest thing we have ever had happen.
This is true. It sometimes can happen in people and is called "subcutaneous emphysema", where people feel like those air filled packing strips that give out little pops when you squeeze them. It feels and looks worse than it is, and your body usually just absorbs the air. |
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | HotbearLVR - 2013-12-10 2:02 PM If it were me, I would wash at least 2-3 times a day with warm soap and water, using a soft brush. That would be the biggest priority. The Veterycin might help too, but warm soapy water would be the most important. I like dial soap or something bacteriocidal. Maybe the best approach would be to wash, then blot dry, and spray with Veterycin. I don't think "covering" it would be very helpful, especially since you are keeping the stall clean. He might fuss at first, but they get used to it. You are basically debriding the wound, and that is the most important thing. It looks great!
I am washing it a good 4-6 times a day with disinfectant and luke warm water per the vets advice. I just ordered underwoods so will use veterycin until it gets here (sorry just not a fan of the stuff). The wound is staying very clean. I just went out again and he has finally had enough of being stalled. He's pawing and throwing a fit. He can hear the other horses outside. He did manage to rip some stitches too, vet figured it would happen, but we were hopeful. It is just where she had stitched some of the muscle back together so not a big hole, but I'm sure it will keep it from healing as smooth.
Covering it was more to keep some warmth to the area. Even in the barn, where it is draining is leaving ice down his chest and legs. WY has had a cruel winter so far. Not much snow, but very cold temps. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Well, whatever you are doing, you are doing a good job. Keep up the good work! |
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       Location: south dakota | I had a mare do that in the exact same place and my vet had me spray with red (scarlet) oil daily and you would never know it had ever happened, |
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   Location: Texas | Underwoods with baking soda. Will probably heal without a scar and all the hair will grow back. It is amazing stuff as far as I am concerned.
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I sure hope so. He has been pretty mad today and pulled a lot of the stitches out. It doesn't look near as good now :( The vet figured he would as it is in such a bad place to rub and with his movement. He keeps pawing all day. I am going to try and keep an old gelding next to him and see if that helps. |
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      Location: Bigfoot Country | If he's pawing, he might be painful? I worked at a vet hospital and we had one that bad or worse, just like that in the chest area. Kept it clean as possible, and we used BIOZIDE gel. Helped it heal and granulate in really fast. It's kinda sticky so you don't have to bandage it. Just put a glove on and stick it inside 2-3 times a day. (Our filly's was so deep I could put my whole hand in it) We put SWAT around the edge to keep the flies away. (if you have any)
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | nuevocowgirl - 2013-12-10 5:17 PM If he's pawing, he might be painful? I worked at a vet hospital and we had one that bad or worse, just like that in the chest area. Kept it clean as possible, and we used BIOZIDE gel. Helped it heal and granulate in really fast. It's kinda sticky so you don't have to bandage it. Just put a glove on and stick it inside 2-3 times a day. (Our filly's was so deep I could put my whole hand in it) We put SWAT around the edge to keep the flies away. (if you have any) Good luck, it should be fine.
He's miffed he's stuck in the barn. This colt has had no personality until this. He just kind of hung around and never caused a scene or any mischief. THAT HAS ALL CHANGED!!!
He is acting more sore now that he tore it back up some. Nothing to rub it on so I am sure they pulled loose with his moving around and pawing.
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       Location: NE Arkansas | I am a big fan of Vetericyn, Caravet an water! I will try to attach pictures of my 3 year old that tried to take her back leg off.
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| slmustang - 2013-12-10 2:59 PM I was hydroing this when the weather was warmer. Now that the weather is not allowing it I have been scrubbing with warm water and betadine. I dry it off and apply furasone. Best guess is he impelled himself on something. Never found any debris. I started off with oral antibiotics but he was a bear giving them to. Now we have switched to exceed every 4 days. I will continue to use exceed until the tunnel heals up. The very top right has a tunnel that is about as deep as my pointer finger.
Wow!! Great job healing that up! Was that part of the pelvic bone exposed in day 2 pic? |
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| doublekfarms - 2013-12-10 5:55 PM I am a big fan of Vetericyn, Caravet an water! I will try to attach pictures of my 3 year old that tried to take her back leg off.
Love these pics and stories! It's good to share all of these horror stories and their outcomes! |
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   Location: Williamsville, MO | Underwoods all the way!!! Works wonders :)   |
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