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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Just saw on the internet where Washington lawmakers are going after the propane industry for possible "price manipulation."  Ya think?
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Location: Millen Ga | I work for a propane company and I promise you we arent price gouging! I am in Georgia. Ours is a small indepentantly owned company. Our price to us went up over 1.50 a gallon that we buy it at :( Right now our company is making less than 3.00 for every 100 gallon we deliver, and that doesnt cover our fuel to get it there. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't know why I let this bother me, but it just frosts my ass to be at the mercy of the power company and gas company, regardless of whether or not they are culpable. You just have no control.
I am really more and more interested in solar and those real efficient wood burning furnaces. I have wood coming out my ass, and even if it takes more work, I still like the idea. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I priced propane locally this afternoon just out of curiosity. $4.58 and a wait of 7-10 days before they can deliver. I was shocked. |
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Location: rabbit run | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-31 2:19 PM I don't know why I let this bother me, but it just frosts my ass to be at the mercy of the power company and gas company, regardless of whether or not they are culpable. You just have no control.
I am really more and more interested in solar and those real efficient wood burning furnaces. I have wood coming out my ass, and even if it takes more work, I still like the idea.
Well I would rather just poop it out than have to go out there and cut it and split it! You are one lucky guy!!! Do you deliver?
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Location: SD | Our family business is fuel. My FIL bought enough propane ahead that we are able to charge about $2.70 to people who did NOT contract any. Another fuel business is charging $5 and another is near $4.50. They either did not buy enough ahead (last summer) or are taking advantage of their customers. |
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| Tanya - 2014-01-31 11:37 AM I work for a propane company and I promise you we arent price gouging! I am in Georgia. Ours is a small indepentantly owned company. Our price to us went up over 1.50 a gallon that we buy it at :( Right now our company is making less than 3.00 for every 100 gallon we deliver, and that doesnt cover our fuel to get it there.
I work for a propane company too and can say we have no raised our profit margin a single penny. Our wholesale cost from the refineries has risen $1.25 /gallon since summer. So, our retail prices have risen to reflect those costs. Not our profit. I've been in the propane biz for 11 years now. *Used* to work for one of the big boys (AmeriGas) and so happy I work for a smaller company now. We have 4 locations in Southern California and smaller companies don't have the overhead the big boys do. Nor do we charge minimal margins to the big users and make it up on ripping off your average American homeowner. |
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Location: Here | Frodo - 2014-01-31 1:02 PM Just saw on the internet where Washington lawmakers are going after the propane industry for possible "price manipulation." Ya think?
I think Washington should be worrying about some other things first |
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Location: mi | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-31 3:19 PM I don't know why I let this bother me, but it just frosts my ass to be at the mercy of the power company and gas company, regardless of whether or not they are culpable. You just have no control.
I am really more and more interested in solar and those real efficient wood burning furnaces. I have wood coming out my ass, and even if it takes more work, I still like the idea.
about 6 years ago we switched out from propane to a Geo Furnace. It has been a great move. Ran us about 13K to install but it will be paid for very shortly if not already with the savings. We keep our home at a balmy constant 70 degrees. and we have had MANY sub zero nights and single digit days already this winter and this last electric bill to run the furnace was $160 I am not going to complain about that! and usually I only have 2 bills that high the rest of the months drop to closer to $100 or less. I highly recommend it to anyone with propane looking to invest in a change. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | SG. - 2014-01-31 8:28 PM Frodo - 2014-01-31 1:02 PM Just saw on the internet where Washington lawmakers are going after the propane industry for possible "price manipulation." Ya think?
Right now this is a disaster for many. I have no problem with the boys in Washington checking it out. |
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| A gal I work with, her husband runs a couple of local rural electric coops. She said that last fall he had said that propane pricing was going to triple this winter. I've not had a chance to ask her what his reasons were however.
Come on guys, it's winter. It gets cold. Of course propane will be needed. I know that last fall, the weather guys were forecasting a colder winter than we've had the last couple of years. Don't they look ahead? I don't know who is manipulating the price, but I bet someone is. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | In doing research for my business plan I have spoken with a few chicken and turkey farmers. They are worried. There is a shortage up here too and the supplier will only give them half of their required amount and told them to make it stretch and make do. Not very comforting when your lively hood is in those barns and they depend on heat. Coupled with the fact we are experiencing one of the coldest winters a lot of people have seen. |
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| Just paid $3.60 per gallon, delivered, 210.9 gallons in southeastern Oklahoma! |
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Miracle in the Making
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| just paid 530.30 for a fill up and i was 23% a 200gal tank
if if i could handle a chain saw and a spliter i would heat the hpuse with wood we did for 20 years but me being a quad not going to happen
but i turn heat to 62 at night get up in morning go tp office use a electric heater @4pm i turn heat up to 68 my light bill was high this month 86.00 |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | vjls - 2014-02-01 6:18 PM just paid 530.30 for a fill up and i was 23% a 200gal tank
if if i could handle a chain saw and a spliter i would heat the hpuse with wood we did for 20 years but me being a quad not going to happen
but i turn heat to 62 at night get up in morning go tp office use a electric heater @4pm i turn heat up to 68 my light bill was high this month 86.00
Crap, I keep my heat on 70 so I don't freeze to death and our electric bull this month was $299. I about died. |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| Ours is now on 58 at night and 62 during the day - FREEZING. I can't afford a $2000 propane bill, I just spent $4300 on a new well! I'm not THAT grossly overpaid!  |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Just what we needed was deep freeze temps and two snow storms on the way........but here they come.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Three 4 Luck - 2014-02-02 6:05 PM
vjls - 2014-02-01 6:18 PM just paid 530.30 for a fill up and i was 23% a 200gal tank
if if i could handle a chain saw and a spliter i would heat the hpuse with wood we did for 20 years but me being a quad not going to happen
but i turn heat to 62 at night get up in morning go tp office use a electric heater @4pm i turn heat up to 68 my light bill was high this month 86.00
Crap, I keep my heat on 70 so I don't freeze to death and our electric bull this month was $299. I about died.
The propane prices I can live with.kinda...its the 550 power bills that really put the nail in my coffin.....M |
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No kidding - it is not sounding good here for us AT ALL. |
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Location: East Texas | Ours was about $3.50/gallon. The local truck stop just put in natural gas pumps and it is $1.11 a gallon. |
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