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  Ms. Manners
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     Location: Oklahoma | Look at the ingredients on your "regular" feed bag - especially pellets. Most hav a bunch of forage as filler for fiber content and some nutrients. Diet balancers like RG remove all the "fluff."
Here in Stillwater, our local mill is now carrying it. $30.50/bag The only thing concerning me about seitching is that it doesn't sem to have all the added vitamins and nutrients I see in other diet balancers. Love the high fat content, though. |
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| Morab76 - 2014-02-15 11:39 PM Look at the ingredients on your "regular" feed bag - especially pellets.Β Most hav a bunch of forage as filler for fiber content and some nutrients.Β Diet balancers like RG remove all the "fluff."Β
Here in Stillwater, our local mill is now carrying it.Β $30.50/bagΒ The only thing concerning me about seitching is that it doesn't sem to have all the added vitamins and nutrients I see in other diet balancers.Β Love the high fat content, though.
Β This was my concern too, I am looking at putting out a mineral/vitamin tub. RG seems like an excellent product but I don't know that I would call it a ration balancer.
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        Location: NC | BleuIdGrl - 2014-02-13 9:20 AM I really want to try this feed, but so far can't get it anywhere around here unless I order an ungodly amount. Could anyone post their before and after pics?
I am with you. I hear all these great threads about feeds like Renew Gold and others and all you can really get around me is Nutrena, Purina, Triple Crown and Southern States.... :/ |
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| Update; my horses have been on it a week. I know that this may seem a little far fetched to see results in only a week, but I started my 13 yo gelding on it to get him some more energy because he just lollygags in the arena. Well, we ran yesterday and man did that ol grandpa have some fire in him! It was nice to finally feel him run! I am in love with this product no doubt  |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I'm interested to see if I will actually see a difference since I think my 22 year old gelding looks really good now. I'm not much of a grain feeder so this feed works perfect for me. I would just feed enough grain to add his supplements too. |
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    Location: Up North | Anyone know any dealers in MN or WI? |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | krystin_fro - 2014-02-16 4:24 PM Anyone know any dealers in MN or WI?
If you go to the Manna Pro website you can do a search to see where they have a dealership closest to you. Any Manna Pro dealer is "supposed" to be able to order RG for you. Some do and some don't. |
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  Ms. Manners
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     Location: Oklahoma | How many of you add a vitamin/mineral supplement or have a tub out with it? |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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      Location: sunny california | for those of you that are having a hard time getting any particular feed. why don't you run an ad in craiglist or your local riding clubs
looking for others horse owners interested in feeding _____ feed. maybe one person could be the hub and get in a big order and everyone goes to that location to pick up.
we do that kind of thing for semi's of hay or semi's of bedding here all the time. |
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   Location: South TEXAS | Morab76 - 2014-02-17 1:07 AM
How many of you add a vitamin/mineral supplement or have a tub out with it?
i use equipride with the renew gold |
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       Location: Texas! | Does anyone just add renew gold to their regular feeding program? It seems like more of a fat supplement than a ration balancer or feed replacement so was wondering if anyone did this? |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
   Location: PNW | I've read such great things about RG, BUT still have some reservations.
Here is my horse situation, if anybody has experience with any of this PLEASE post :) thanks!
I have a 7 year old OTTQH. He's 16.2, lanky, hard to put/keep weight on, and HOT and SQUIRRELLY.
He is currently on WellSolve LowStarch (by purina), along with MaxEGlo (mannapro) with a handful of Amplify and then TriFecta mineral supplement (Horseguard) and alfalfa.
My concern with RG would be - would I keep feeding the ricebran with it? Just stop feeding the lowstarch pellets?
AND WILL IT MAKE HIM HOT?! Mostly, this is my concern.
I would love to switch because gosh it would be so much cheaper.... I haven't figured out his monthly feed bill, because then I'd have an answer when my husband asks.lol |
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       Location: Phoenix | It shouldn't make him hot because there is less starch/sugar. I noticed a difference in him mentally. We just added a little under a pound to their current feed (COB) and gradually eliminated the COB over a month. They are now in a full pound. |
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  Ms. Manners
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     Location: Oklahoma | svincent - 2014-02-17 11:20 AM I've read such great things about RG, BUT still have some reservations. Here is my horse situation, if anybody has experience with any of this PLEASE post :) thanks! I have a 7 year old OTTQH. He's 16.2, lanky, hard to put/keep weight on, and HOT and SQUIRRELLY. He is currently on WellSolve LowStarch (by purina), along with MaxEGlo (mannapro) with a handful of Amplify and then TriFecta mineral supplement (Horseguard) and alfalfa. My concern with RG would be - would I keep feeding the ricebran with it? Just stop feeding the lowstarch pellets? AND WILL IT MAKE HIM HOT?! Mostly, this is my concern. I would love to switch because gosh it would be so much cheaper.... I haven't figured out his monthly feed bill, because then I'd have an answer when my husband asks.lol
You may want to call the company, but from what I could tell on the <annaPro web site the Renew Gold would replace your pellets and MaxEGlo. The Renew Gold looked to be an amped up MaxEGlo. |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
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      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | Jeffer equine carries it and will ship it anywhere. I live close to this store and has no idea they carried it. I've been fighting with my local tractor supply and other stores for 6 months. |
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  Bye-Bye Jiggle
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      Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | HorsesNHarleys - 2014-02-16 9:04 AM
BleuIdGrl - 2014-02-13 9:20 AM I really want to try this feed, but so far can't get it anywhere around here unless I order an ungodly amount. Could anyone post their before and after pics?
I am with you.Β I hear all these great threads about feeds like Renew Gold and others and all you can really get around me is Nutrena, Purina, Triple Crown and Southern States.... :/ Β
That's all we have around my folks too! So aggrevating |
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      Location: Got Lobsta? | BleuIdGrl - 2014-02-18 12:15 PM Jeffer equine carries it and will ship it anywhere. I live close to this store and has no idea they carried it. I've been fighting with my local tractor supply and other stores for 6 months.
Thanks for the heads up. I just checked though and with shipping charges it works out to be $51.95 per bag. bummer |
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      Location: CA | svincent - 2014-02-17 9:20 AM I've read such great things about RG, BUT still have some reservations. Here is my horse situation, if anybody has experience with any of this PLEASE post :) thanks! I have a 7 year old OTTQH. He's 16.2, lanky, hard to put/keep weight on, and HOT and SQUIRRELLY. He is currently on WellSolve LowStarch (by purina), along with MaxEGlo (mannapro) with a handful of Amplify and then TriFecta mineral supplement (Horseguard) and alfalfa. My concern with RG would be - would I keep feeding the ricebran with it? Just stop feeding the lowstarch pellets? AND WILL IT MAKE HIM HOT?! Mostly, this is my concern. I would love to switch because gosh it would be so much cheaper.... I haven't figured out his monthly feed bill, because then I'd have an answer when my husband asks.lol
renew gold has stabilized rice bran in it along with the coconut meal. it is supposed to be a complete feed, when we talked to the developer he said you should only add extra feed on occasion if you horse needs a boost. I usually feed it with either wheat bran or beet pulp to up the fiber and because I had one horse that likes to eat dirt. The vet recommened I keep him on it daily to hopefully move the dirt through. He also gets sandclear monthly per the recommeneded feeding instructions.
I love it for my nervous/hot hard/keeper OTTB mare, it does not make her hot. the only other grain that kept the weight on made her a looney toon! She is also a picky eater and she likes the renew gold pellets. I tried the straight coconut meal before and she was not very interested in it. |
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| FYI from Rutgers reseach center: Vitamins are fat-soluble (vitamin A, D, E, and K), or water-soluble (vitamin C, and B-complex). Horses at maintenance usually have more than adequate amounts of vitamins in their diet if they are receiving fresh green forage and/or premixed rations. Some cases where a horse would need a vitamin supplement include when feeding a high-grain diet, or low-quality hay, if a horse is under stress (traveling, showing, racing, etc.), prolonged strenuous activity, or not eating well (sick, after surgery, etc.). Most of the vitamins are found in green, leafy forages. Vitamin D is obtained from sunlight, so only horses that are stalled for 24 hours a day need a supplement with vitamin D. Vitamin E is found in fresh green forages, however, the amount decreases with plant maturity and is destroyed during long term storage. Horses that are under heavy exercise or under increased levels of stress also may benefit from vitamin E supplementation. Vitamin K and B-complex are produced by the gut microbes. Vitamin C is found in fresh vegetables and fruits, and produced naturally by the liver. None of these are usually required in a horse’s diet. Severely stressed horses, however, may benefit from B-complex and vitamin C supplements during the period of stress.
Minerals are required for maintenance of body structure, fluid balance in cells (electrolytes), nerve conduction, and muscle contraction. Only small amounts of the macro-minerals such as calcium, phosphorus, sodium, potassium, chloride, magnesium, and sulfur are needed daily.
Calcium and phosphorus are needed in a specific ratio ideally 2:1, but never less than 1:1. Alfalfa alone can exceed a Ca:P ratio of 6:1. Sweating depletes sodium, potassium, and chloride from the horse’s system, therefore, supplementation with electrolytes may be helpful for horses that sweat a lot. Normally, if adult horses are consuming fresh green pasture and/or a premixed ration, they will receive proper amounts of minerals in their diet, with the exception of sodium chloride (salt), which should always be available. Young horses may need added calcium, phosphorus, copper, and zinc during the first year or two of life. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2014-02-18 3:20 PM FYI from Rutgers reseach center:
Vitamins are fat-soluble (vitamin A, D, E, and K), or water-soluble (vitamin C, and B-complex). Horses at maintenance usually have more than adequate amounts of vitamins in their diet if they are receiving fresh green forage and/or premixed rations. Some cases where a horse would need a vitamin supplement include when feeding a high-grain diet, or low-quality hay, if a horse is under stress (traveling, showing, racing, etc.), prolonged strenuous activity, or not eating well (sick, after surgery, etc.).
Most of the vitamins are found in green, leafy forages. Vitamin D is obtained from sunlight, so only horses that are stalled for 24 hours a day need a supplement with vitamin D. Vitamin E is found in fresh green forages, however, the amount decreases with plant maturity and is destroyed during long term storage. Horses that are under heavy exercise or under increased levels of stress also may benefit from vitamin E supplementation. Vitamin K and B-complex are produced by the gut microbes. Vitamin C is found in fresh vegetables and fruits, and produced naturally by the liver. None of these are usually required in a horse’s diet. Severely stressed horses, however, may benefit from B-complex and vitamin C supplements during the period of stress.
Minerals are required for maintenance of body structure, fluid balance in cells (electrolytes), nerve conduction, and muscle contraction. Only small amounts of the macro-minerals such as calcium, phosphorus, sodium, potassium, chloride, magnesium, and sulfur are needed daily.
Calcium and phosphorus are needed in a specific ratio ideally 2:1, but never less than 1:1. Alfalfa alone can exceed a Ca:P ratio of 6:1. Sweating depletes sodium, potassium, and chloride from the horse’s system, therefore, supplementation with electrolytes may be helpful for horses that sweat a lot. Normally, if adult horses are consuming fresh green pasture and/or a premixed ration, they will receive proper amounts of minerals in their diet, with the exception of sodium chloride (salt), which should always be available. Young horses may need added calcium, phosphorus, copper, and zinc during the first year or two of life.
I've seen horses that look like a million dollars on a feed that has the fat soluble vitamins added to it and then after long term use they go the other direction. The fat soluble vitamins build up and actually become toxic. There was one feed that trainers were using like crazy with success while individuals started seeing problems as they kept their horse on it while the training horses come and go. |
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