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brrlrcrtx44
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Posted 2014-02-13 11:41 PM
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i made my wpra circuit finals multiple times on a FG son. They are solid, they can handle the road, and i would take one colt by FG over 5 colts by other trendy bloodlines any day. If youre style mesh's with them, they rock.

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The ones I had were great. They were almost too easy to start and get going. Both were very athletic and knew how to use themselves naturally. They both had a stubborn streak, and you had to show them the right way first, they never forgot a thing. They could be on the lazy side. For me personally I like a more reactive horse. OI would never say no to another, but do not seek them out.

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I have a granddaughter that I love!  I do agree with others, that they aren't for everyone.  She's extremely athletic, gritty, smart...but she's sensitive.  She remembers EVERYTHING, good and bad. 

I'm hoping to breed her this year or next year, and can not WAIT for that baby!!!   
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koi322
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Posted 2014-02-14 8:05 AM
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rockinas - 2014-02-13 10:53 PM

KatieMac88 - 2014-02-13 9:04 PM I really want a FG baby. I'm considering a FG grandbaby out of either a cowbred (Genuine Doc) mare or a running bred (Dash for Cash) mare. I've been leaning towards the cowbred mare because of looks and size mostly. Their personalities are similar. Since some of you have said FG doesn't always have the speed, would I be better off going with a baby out of the running bred mare?

The goal for the baby would be to be a barrel horse.

Sorry OP I'm not trying to steal the thread, I'm just like you and want to know more about FG babies from those who have been around them.
Not necessarily.Β  My FG son has won a lot and he is out of a foundation/working bred mare.Β  He had plenty of speed and his best attribute as a rodeo horse was the athleticism and ability to run stand up on ANY kind of ground.Β  And there have been several others that have done very well, out of cow bred mares.Β  A Smooth Guy had a full sister that was a futurity standout, if I remember right.

Check out Sabra O'Quinns FB page for the mare Bring It On Guys. She's an example, much like rockinas stallion, of FG crossed on "Peppy" lines. That mare was 3rd in the 2013 Old Fort Days Futurity, earning $16,870. She also won all three go's of the 5-States Futurity.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bring+it+on+guys

An example of it working with a daughter of FG would be Vanilas Whiskey Girl, out of SX Frenchmans Vanila and she has cowy, "Peppy" lines on top. She won the 2010 Hawki Futurity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7Bm2eJ85g&sns=em
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/vanilas+whiskey+girl

With that being said, I'm excited to see what my FG/cow bred cross is gonna do! :) http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pardonmyfrenchmiss

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Posted 2014-02-14 8:08 AM
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Why wouldn't anyone want one? They are pretty, have great comformation and good bone, very versatile. How many DTF do you see that can rope, steer wrestle, cut, and run barrels? All the speed in the world isn't worth a dime if it can't turn and doesn't stay sound. There's a few bad apples in every line and they don't cross on every type mare but look at the results and they are proving themselves. Some of them do mature late but they will still be going down the road when those other ones are blown up and crippled. I think some people aren't smart enough to ride them. jmo 
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Posted 2014-02-14 8:35 AM
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Because people are ignorant and like to pretend they know what they are talking about by bashing big names in the business.

Every horse is an individual. I have been around plenty FG's and none of them were exactly alike, but all had the ability to be stellar barrel horses, or just performance horse in general. They are amazing because they are versatile. The Meyers know what they are doing. FG's are only getting better. They have figured out what works and they are building on it, every year.
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CYA Ranch
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Posted 2014-02-14 8:46 AM
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Rockyroad - 2014-02-13 11:36 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-02-13 2:01 PM They need a job.  I really believe it comes from the Docs Jack Frost, I've had plenty of those over the years.  I love them to death.  In this part of the country a horse has to be tough and these horses will go all day long and work their tail off.   I guess for every one person that is sceered to ride one there's 5 more people that will snatch one up in a heartbeat.  
 I would say I agree with you Val!  I had a grandson of DJF http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/jet+frost and he was one who needed a job for sure.  Since I am old, he wore me out!  LOL  Katie owns him now and even though he's 20 this year, he is still the energizer bunny!  He is one tough, gritty horse and I have NEVER seen him give up or say he was tired.  He has always been a fun boy tho - barrels, rope both ends, cattle - you name it, Foster would give it a go!

Love the pedigree!  What you described sounds very familiar.  The ones that I have will do absolutely anything  you throw at them and do it with gusto.  I don't think the term "quit" is in their vocabulary. LOL  
 
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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-02-14 6:35 PM
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We have a grandson, and other than FG on his papers, he's pretty much all old cow lines. That being said, I love him. He's not easy to get along with, but that's not his fault. Previous-previous owners weren't the nicest to hm, and he figured out that bucking could get away from their hard hands. He's the quietest, easy going stallion I've ever owned and bred. He's in a barn full of mares and they could all be in heat and you wouldn't know. But, like I said, HE CAN BUCK, but it's a man made issue that we've worked hard to get that issue resolved.  
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 I have a FG daughter and I am in love with her!   Hope to have. new one next year!!!
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Posted 2014-02-14 8:29 PM
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Β just because someone doesn't like a bloodline, doesn't mean they are jealous. Why would that even be brought up? There are several bloodlines I don't want when buying, they don't work for me, simple as that.
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Posted 2014-02-14 9:38 PM
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I vote for FG to be the next face on Mt RushmoreΒ 
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Me too!
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Posted 2014-02-15 1:22 AM
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NOT AN FG ... But why not take a look at the bank (SUN FROST) sire of FG and the mare power of Hawk and Stingray with Stingray's full brother MP DEL REY as Cervi's future pro rodeo mount.

I stopped by and visited with David James today and took a look at this marvelous new stallion MP JET TO THE SUN .... http://www.jamesranchok.com/mp-jet-to-the-sun
Earner of over 400 AQHA roping points and is qualified as a sire for Brazil importation.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/mp+jet+to+the+sun

Be sure and take a look at the training videos of 2yo's that averaged over $15k at the LG Sale ... http://www.jamesranchok.com/
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tebar
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-02-15 9:22 AM
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Ours is a bucking counterfit no run doesn't want to be a rope horse and is a very expensive pretty pony. 

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KatieMac88
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-02-15 10:02 AM
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koi322 - 2014-02-14 8:05 AM
rockinas - 2014-02-13 10:53 PM
KatieMac88 - 2014-02-13 9:04 PM I really want a FG baby. I'm considering a FG grandbaby out of either a cowbred (Genuine Doc) mare or a running bred (Dash for Cash) mare. I've been leaning towards the cowbred mare because of looks and size mostly. Their personalities are similar. Since some of you have said FG doesn't always have the speed, would I be better off going with a baby out of the running bred mare?



The goal for the baby would be to be a barrel horse.



Sorry OP I'm not trying to steal the thread, I'm just like you and want to know more about FG babies from those who have been around them.
Not necessarily.  My FG son has won a lot and he is out of a foundation/working bred mare.  He had plenty of speed and his best attribute as a rodeo horse was the athleticism and ability to run stand up on ANY kind of ground.  And there have been several others that have done very well, out of cow bred mares.  A Smooth Guy had a full sister that was a futurity standout, if I remember right.
Check out Sabra O'Quinns FB page for the mare Bring It On Guys. She's an example, much like rockinas stallion, of FG crossed on "Peppy" lines. That mare was 3rd in the 2013 Old Fort Days Futurity, earning $16,870. She also won all three go's of the 5-States Futurity. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bring+it+on+guys An example of it working with a daughter of FG would be Vanilas Whiskey Girl, out of SX Frenchmans Vanila and she has cowy, "Peppy" lines on top. She won the 2010 Hawki Futurity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7Bm2eJ85g&sns=em http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/vanilas+whiskey+girl... With that being said, I'm excited to see what my FG/cow bred cross is gonna do! :) http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pardonmyfrenchmiss  photo image-1.jpg  photo image.jpg

Awesome! Thanks for the information and resources. I didn't know if cow x FG was a popular thing to do. I love your FG baby! She's beautiful! I hope she makes an awesome barrel horse for you. 
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KatieMac88
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rockinas - 2014-02-13 9:53 PM
KatieMac88 - 2014-02-13 9:04 PM I really want a FG baby. I'm considering a FG grandbaby out of either a cowbred (Genuine Doc) mare or a running bred (Dash for Cash) mare. I've been leaning towards the cowbred mare because of looks and size mostly. Their personalities are similar. Since some of you have said FG doesn't always have the speed, would I be better off going with a baby out of the running bred mare?



The goal for the baby would be to be a barrel horse.



Sorry OP I'm not trying to steal the thread, I'm just like you and want to know more about FG babies from those who have been around them.
Not necessarily.  My FG son has won a lot and he is out of a foundation/working bred mare.  He had plenty of speed and his best attribute as a rodeo horse was the athleticism and ability to run stand up on ANY kind of ground.  And there have been several others that have done very well, out of cow bred mares.  A Smooth Guy had a full sister that was a futurity standout, if I remember right.

That's a good point. Run/speed is very important but soundness and the ability to run on most types of ground is also important. I didn't realize A Smooth Guy was out of a more foundation type mare. This is off topic but I checked out your website and both of your stallions are very nice!! 
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koi322
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Posted 2014-02-15 10:50 AM
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koi322 - 2014-02-14 8:05 AM
rockinas - 2014-02-13 10:53 PM
KatieMac88 - 2014-02-13 9:04 PM I really want a FG baby. I'm considering a FG grandbaby out of either a cowbred (Genuine Doc) mare or a running bred (Dash for Cash) mare. I've been leaning towards the cowbred mare because of looks and size mostly. Their personalities are similar. Since some of you have said FG doesn't always have the speed, would I be better off going with a baby out of the running bred mare?



The goal for the baby would be to be a barrel horse.



Sorry OP I'm not trying to steal the thread, I'm just like you and want to know more about FG babies from those who have been around them.
Not necessarily.Β  My FG son has won a lot and he is out of a foundation/working bred mare.Β  He had plenty of speed and his best attribute as a rodeo horse was the athleticism and ability to run stand up on ANY kind of ground.Β  And there have been several others that have done very well, out of cow bred mares.Β  A Smooth Guy had a full sister that was a futurity standout, if I remember right.
Check out Sabra O'Quinns FB page for the mare Bring It On Guys. She's an example, much like rockinas stallion, of FG crossed on "Peppy" lines. That mare was 3rd in the 2013 Old Fort Days Futurity, earning $16,870. She also won all three go's of the 5-States Futurity. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/bring+it+on+guys An example of it working with a daughter of FG would be Vanilas Whiskey Girl, out of SX Frenchmans Vanila and she has cowy, "Peppy" lines on top. She won the 2010 Hawki Futurity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7Bm2eJ85g&sns=em http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/vanilas+whiskey+girl... With that being said, I'm excited to see what my FG/cow bred cross is gonna do! :) http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pardonmyfrenchmiss  photo image-1.jpg  photo image.jpg

Awesome!Β Thanks for the information and resources. I didn't know if cow x FG was a popular thing to do. I love your FG baby! She's beautiful!Β I hope she makes an awesome barrel horse for you.Β 

Thank you! We are proud of her :)
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Tn_Barrelracer
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I love mine besides her being accident prone, I don't love the vet bills lol I have a 4yo daughter, 2yo gdaughter, sold a Frenchmans fabulous daughter, and I have a FG baby and ASNY baby due this year. So yes I sorta like them lol All mine are out of running bred mares. All in your pocket, laid back, do anything you ask them to, crazy athletic, and gorgeous to boot. Not broncy AT ALL and not really what I would call sensitive, late maturing, retain everything you teach them. They make my life easy halter breaking, trimming, loading etc as babies.
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CheckItOut - 2014-02-14 8:35 AM

Because people are ignorant and like to pretend they know what they are talking about by bashing big names in the business.

Every horse is an individual. I have been around plenty FG's and none of them were exactly alike, but all had the ability to be stellar barrel horses, or just performance horse in general. They are amazing because they are versatile. The Meyers know what they are doing. FG's are only getting better. They have figured out what works and they are building on it, every year.

I have a grandson of frenchmans guy, he is beautiful, but has broken splint bones multiple times, up until this year, he is 7 has been very immature. I have rode the dams side and they are solid, so I do attribute some of this to frenchmans guy breeding.

Will I buy another frenchmans guy, maybe if they were cheap. I will keep buying firewater flits as IMO they are more trainable, mature, and versatile.
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Posted 2014-02-15 2:42 PM
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I would love to try an own daughter or son....but, can't afford one!

It seems like an easy bloodline to sell and that they hold their value.
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Posted 2014-02-15 2:48 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-02-15 1:52 PM
CheckItOut - 2014-02-14 8:35 AM Because people are ignorant and like to pretend they know what they are talking about by bashing big names in the business. Every horse is an individual. I have been around plenty FG's and none of them were exactly alike, but all had the ability to be stellar barrel horses, or just performance horse in general. They are amazing because they are versatile. The Meyers know what they are doing. FG's are only getting better. They have figured out what works and they are building on it, every year.
I have a grandson of frenchmans guy, he is beautiful, but has broken splint bones multiple times, up until this year, he is 7 has been very immature. I have rode the dams side and they are solid, so I do attribute some of this to frenchmans guy breeding. Will I buy another frenchmans guy, maybe if they were cheap. I will keep buying firewater flits as IMO they are more trainable, mature, and versatile.

I am not bashing anyone, I think I know what I'm talking about, ours bucks. He is by FG and out of Slim's full sister who has other foals by different stallions and none of them buck. I don't care who they are by or out of if they buck they will not be at my house long.  
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