cheryl makofka - 2014-03-24 4:33 PM


Sorry my like went to dislike.

I am glad women are feeling empowered to have the choice midwife or doctor.

Midwives also have tools and instruments to measure fetal heart rate, and they also have the experience to identify if things are going wrong.

To the person who wants drugs while delivering. Please read up on drug use during labor and delivery, as the drugs you do take negatively impact your child in some way.

I am not saying no to all drugs, but don't make the decision without reading the literature first.

Iv narcotics cause initial problems with the child, and also affect the sucking reflex. One thinks the doctors can give narcan to reverse the effects, but narcan has a very short half life, so the baby can still have complications after the narcan administration.

Epidurals also have a negative impact on the child as well, the research has proven epidurals negatively impact the sucking reflex for up to 30 days post partum.

C section the research is also showing reduces the woman's life by 5 years.

General anesthetic give in c sections can actually cause the heart to stop in the child post delivery.

The point is not to scare anyone, but do your research make the decision with your eyes wide open.

I just retread you are anti vaccine, this I do disagree with you as the only way small pox was eradicated world wide was vaccination.

Due to anti vaccinationers in Alberta we have had 2 measles outbreaks within the last 6 months.

All deadly diseases are one flight away, one classroom away, one table away. Tetanus will never be eradicated as it lives in the soil, people still die every year from the disease.
I could go on and on, but to the people who refuse vaccines are not only putting their children at risk but all immunosupressed, cancer fighters and survivors.
IMHO if people who don't vaccinate cause a death of someone who cannot receive the vaccine should be charged with murder.

Alicat0909 - 2014-03-24 5:53 PM Before this turns into a total debate and everything is lost. OP A good thing to read was The Business of Being Born by Ricki Lake I havent had the chance to get it yet but it has come highly recommended. My best friend had her baby in a hospital with drugs. She said she wished she would have read that first because she would have done everything differently. Not sure what she meant exactly but I cant wait to read it.

bocephus's mama - 2014-03-24 6:54 PM


 Ah, yes. Dr. Ricki Lake.

It's celebrities like this that help perpetuate fads. I'm all for the right to choose but Jeez, don't base your opinion on someone that has no medical knowledge. Seriously. The lack of common sense astounds me. 

svincent - 2014-03-24 6:45 PM


I can't highlight on my phone....

Your info on the general anesthesia during a cesarean is lacking some detail.

General is reserved for EMERGENCY situations: routine cesareans are done with a spinal OR an epidural if the patient already has one inserted.

As a mom of a child who had a heart condition (he's 100% healthy now), in an emergency situation - SHOULD the heart stop, doctors have methods of restarting it within SECONDS. My son's heart was PURPOSEFULLY stopped and then restarted twice using the medication Adenosine.

I said it in my last post, and I'll say it again.

A healthy baby is the goal. Your delivery method and choices do not define you in any way. Talk to your doctor/midwife. Get some great personal experiences on here, but make whatever decision you and your healthcare professional feel will get your baby here safely.

cowpony45 - 2014-03-24 7:06 PM OK I'm going to have yo put a stop to this. I wasnt going to reply, but give me a break. Forgive me if I'm wrong but I believe you made the comment about me not being a ture control freak... and if I was I would have my child in the hospital. What I like to have more then control is factual information. I do not live with my head in the clouds and this isn't about "an organic experience". Its about having options and researching, questioning, and scrutinizing each of them until you are comfortable making decisions in the heat of the moment. Just because its not the "norm" doesn't mean it wrong. Same goes for the opposite. Now let's be nice because I was enjoying hearing from all of you.

bocephus's mama - 2014-03-24 7:40 PM


 I asked you in my first post, just bc I was curious, why you wanted to deliver out of a hospital. I honestly am interested in the answer. Since you've done so much research, I'm sure you'll come up with something intelligent and add to the conversation. 

bocephus's mama - 2014-03-24 6:54 PM  Ah, yes. Dr. Ricki Lake.



It's celebrities like this that help perpetuate fads. I'm all for the right to choose but Jeez, don't base your opinion on someone that has no medical knowledge. Seriously. The lack of common sense astounds me. 

bocephus's mama - 2014-03-24 8:16 PM

 You asked for "thoughts on the subject" which I gave. This place can be SUCH a great learning experience. My political knowledge alone came from trying to support statements I made here. Just trying to make you think - REALLY think. You said you've done research, I'm interested - mainly in the issues with hospitals.

rachellyn80 - 2014-03-24 8:16 PM


I tried to watch that ridiculous movie last week....only because I have an abnormal amount of time on my hands.  Turned it off halfway through because it's scary that people actually follow along with that mess without knowing how quickly things can go wrong.

I had major blood pressure issues with my first delivery.

Hemorrhaged after my second.

...Now, I'm pregnant with twins and have a type of placenta previa that would be tough to diagnose even on ultrasound and had a major bleeding episode 9 weeks ago.  If I had tried to have a home birth with any of these issues who knows how it would have turned out.

I have never had my babies taken away from me immediately after birth.  They were given right to me, wiped off, and I nursed them for as long as I needed to before they were ever given a bath.  I've had fantastic labor and delivery nurses and wouldn't change anything about any of the birthing experiences that I've had.  I'll be having a c-section with the twins I'm carrying now, because I CAN'T give birth naturally as the placenta of one of the babies is blocking my cervix.

Don't let someone else's terrible experience put you in danger.  

CalamityKate - 2014-03-24 9:04 PM

OP, do not stress yourself over this! You'll have plenty of that to deal with for the next 18 years. I think, more than anything, what you can take away from this thread is that there is more than one way to skin a cat. And safely at that! :) There are so many available options for expectant mother's now. I know women who have worked with mid-wives AND doctors to have a tailor made experience that offered the best possible outcome for mom and baby. Like someone else said, at the end of the day, that is all that matters.

And don't be afraid to 'doctor hunt'. If you get into your first appointment and your physician does not seem receptive to your ideal, move on. There are many out there who are happy to work with you, and happy to educate you about ALL of your options.

CalamityKate - 2014-03-24 9:04 PM OP, do not stress yourself over this! You'll have plenty of that to deal with for the next 18 years. I think, more than anything, what you can take away from this thread is that there is more than one way to skin a cat. And safely at that! :) There are so many available options for expectant mother's now. I know women who have worked with mid-wives AND doctors to have a tailor made experience that offered the best possible outcome for mom and baby. Like someone else said, at the end of the day, that is all that matters. And don't be afraid to 'doctor hunt'. If you get into your first appointment and your physician does not seem receptive to your ideal, move on. There are many out there who are happy to work with you, and happy to educate you about ALL of your options.

cowpony45 - 2014-03-24 9:11 PM


Thanks :) I'm pretty good at over stressing and I need to work harder on be relaxed. I think one of the things that makes me so unsure is I don't have a great Doctor I feel comfortable with now and haven't for quite some time. I'm a little lost at this point and I hopefully will have some questions answered when I go in this week. I'm worried I won't have enough time to find one if this doesn't work out...I know this sounds silly, but I'm pretty much worried about everything and most of it will happen regardless.

Alicat0909 - 2014-03-24 9:15 PM This!!! 



Please doctor hunt! I went with the first gal i saw and she is true and total uncaring dumby. (JMHO)



At 8 weeks i got bucked off. Called and her phone answering lady said go to the ER if your worried and hung up. 



I called back and demanded I speak to my doctor. SHe said the same thing. Absolutly NO concern. Yes i understand my dumbass shouldnt have been on the horse but for gods sake you can act a little human. 



Last week, I was exactly 14 weeks. I passed out in a store. Full fledged passed out, hubby caught me old style fainting. Hubby rushed me to the near by hospital and that wrench wasnt going to run any tests. Told me to go eat and drink more water. 



I have never been so hurt, let down, and ****ed in my life. Absolutly no concern what so ever for me or my baby. 



Please please please shop around and dont settle. You dont need any more stress than your already under. And as Ive learned. Listen to your body. My body told me to sit down before I passed out and I didnt listen to it. 



 

rachellyn80 - 2014-03-24 9:35 PM


The cold hard facts of medicine is that a baby is not viable until they are past 24 weeks.  The reason that they don't do much at 8 weeks is that there really isn't anything to do.  At 14 weeks still not much.  You have to take care of yourself and this precious baby that's growing inside you.  Did eating, drinking water, and resting help?  Have you passed out anymore?  What sort of test would they run for something that's fairly common in pregnancy?

One thing that you have to remember in this and every other situation in your life is that you have to present yourself in a way that you are going to be respected.  I read these stories on here and cannot relate.  I've never in any situation medical or otherwise been treated the way others claim.  Sure, I've had Dr.'s that I didn't care for but it wasn't because they called me an idiot, hung up on me, or acted like I was less than human.  It was because I just didn't care for their way of doing things.  I have vets that I don't like for the same reasons....

rachellyn80 - 2014-03-24 9:35 PM The cold hard facts of medicine is that a baby is not viable until they are past 24 weeks.  The reason that they don't do much at 8 weeks is that there really isn't anything to do.  At 14 weeks still not much.  You have to take care of yourself and this precious baby that's growing inside you.  Did eating, drinking water, and resting help?  Have you passed out anymore?  What sort of test would they run for something that's fairly common in pregnancy?



One thing that you have to remember in this and every other situation in your life is that you have to present yourself in a way that you are going to be respected.  I read these stories on here and cannot relate.  I've never in any situation medical or otherwise been treated the way others claim.  Sure, I've had Dr.'s that I didn't care for but it wasn't because they called me an idiot, hung up on me, or acted like I was less than human.  It was because I just didn't care for their way of doing things.  I have vets that I don't like for the same reasons....

Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-24 10:02 PM


 I think sometimes doctors don't take complaints seriously because they are so used to dealing with whiners.  I pulled my groin at 15 weeks with my first baby and when I tried to talk to my dr about the pain I was having, she told me it was just a part of pregnancy aches and pains and totally normal.  She didn't get that if I said I was hurting that I was HURTING. Kinda like the ER doc that told me I had a bruised butt and to suck it up when I had a fractured pelvis.  I literally couldn't walk and he acted like I was a drama queen and wouldn't even give me any pain meds.