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Location: Where I am happiest | One by Sweet Little Pepto out of a Highbrow Cat mare made the finals at Diamonds and Dirt last weekend. | |
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Location: Iowa | Anything with Doc Bar on its papers in any shape or form interests me. I have tried the straight race breds...just not for me and Im getting back to my roots!! Race and cow is the perfect mix. Louie is my favorite example as he is downright perfect!!!
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 Best of the Badlands
Location: You never know where I will show up...... | koi322 - 2014-03-24
LOVE both your stallions, especially Pablo :)
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 More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Frenchie - 2014-03-24 8:38 PM rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.
I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).
Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.
I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past. Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse. To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be, is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.
We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented. We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
To me its Docs Jack Frost. He doesn't get a lot of credit IMO. Everyone looks beyond him but he was the start to a huge line of great horses in the north. I'm like Amy. I have a huge soft spot in my heart for those old lines. | |
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 Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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That sucker sure does cow a barrel. Thanks for posting that. | |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-25 9:37 AM Frenchie - 2014-03-24 8:38 PM rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.
I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).
Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.
I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past. Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse. To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be, is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.
We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented. We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
For me, Docs Jack Frost is a "What Could Have Been" kind of story. Stanley Johnston sold him to a syndicate in the early 80's---if he had lived out his whole life under Johnstons care, with the mare power he had, the sky could have been the limit. He is still a great one but I think he could have even been bigger. | |
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More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Mighty Broke - 2014-03-25 10:06 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-25 9:37 AM Frenchie - 2014-03-24 8:38 PM rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.
I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).
Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.
I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past. Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse. To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be, is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.
We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented. We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
One of those woulda coulda shoulda type deals. Hind sight is 20/20 and yes he could have made a much bigger impact. I'm proud to have him on many of my horses papers. | |
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Location: Deep South | FlyinByU - 2014-03-25 12:01 AM
I love cowbreds! The lines I like are Freckles Playboy, Doc O Lena, Boon Bar and would love to try a Docs Superstar Bar. I just got a new gelding in thats a grandson of Highbrow Cat and Freckles Merada. I'm loving him so far - he's big hippef, long strided and fast!http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cats+call+me+elvis.
Very nice. Love High Brow Cat and Freckles Merada. | |
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Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-25 11:27 AM Mighty Broke - 2014-03-25 10:06 AM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-25 9:37 AM Frenchie - 2014-03-24 8:38 PM rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.
I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).
Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.
I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past. Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse. To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be, is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.
We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented. We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
I am also a HUGE fan. | |
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Location: beach, nd 58621 | Doc O Dynamite's are proven.
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Location: ny | I am also a huge fan of Hancock horses but they have to be brought on very slow and be one person hands on horses . My red colt from cross spur is the best riding horse in town . . | |
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Location: Oklahoma | I grew up riding cow or ranch bred horses but somewhere along the line, got away from them. Well, I'm back. I just lost a 5 year old who was Blue Valentine on top and Driftwood (Drifts Chip) on bottom. He reminded me why I love that type of horse. I just bought a 3 year old to start who is Dash For Perks and Sunfrost on top and Freckles Playboy, Doc Bar (Docs Last Chance) and King Glo on bottom. After just a handful of rides, I love him. Very smart, trainable, quick footed and willing. I'm excited to see what he will be. | |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-03-25 6:40 AM That sucker sure does cow a barrel. Thanks for posting that.
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 IMA No Hair Style Gal
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| I am going to say that I had a Peptoboonsmal grandgit-was a good horse, but was SLOW and took a while to come on.
Her heart was not really with running, but boy did she LOVE to turn. If I knew anything about cows I would have made her a cutter because I feel like she really had a natural ability for that.
I probably would not go for another Peptoboonsmal, but would go for a Reminic or Peppy San Badger. I had some luck with those cow lines with my first barrel horse. She ended up being a great youth/beginner barrel horse and that was what we sold her as. | |
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| Love my 3 year old filly by Bucks Hancock Dude. Bought her six months ago, and everything about her has impressed me. She is so calm and patient. Knowing that I am going to saddle and work her past a sweat, she will still run from the front pasture when she sees me at the gate with her halter. Will she make a great barrel horse? Who knows! | |
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| The Gelding im running now is all cow
On the top he is a grandson of peppysan badger and down the line Doc o'lena
the mare is all Foundation, on her papers she has King and Wimpy, and just off her papers one generation she has Leo
He is a pretty cool horse, Gritty, But can be on the lazy side. But I also own his Full Brother and he is the Complete opposite, Im just getting him going and he is alot of work tho, but once it all comes together he should finish out really cool!
They definatly eat up the barrels! I have a harder time getting them by them than running past! | |
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Location: Canada | I have a gelding I run that's Freckles Playboy/Docbar top side and a Highbrow hickory/Okie leo bottom and I'd get a 1000 of them if I could lol | |
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Location: Kansas | GWR - 2014-03-24 10:27 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 1:35 PM GWR - 2014-03-24 3:28 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 9:48 AM I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! Just out of curosity, why do you stay away from Hancock bred horses?
Genunine Doc and Docs Superstar Bar horses have proven to be good ones.
But don't get me wrong.....my jaw will still drop for hancock bred horse if they are shapey and a roan!!! | |
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| Here is a list of all time leading sires for barrel racing, it might help answer your question as to how the "cow lines" stack up against the "race lines" and everything in between. Full list is available at this link:
http://www.qhd.com/records/ranking.asp?ranktype=All-Time+Stallions&methodID=51
Rank Name of Stallion Equi-stat Number of Equi-stat Sire x Dam x Dam's Sire
BR Offspring $ Earners Avg. BR
LTE Offspr Earnings
#1 Dash Ta Fame $11,135,702 781 $14,258 (First Down Dash x Sudden Fame x Tiny's Gay)
#2 Frenchmans Guy $4,095,692 505 $8,110 (Sun Frost x Frenchman's Lady x Laughing Boy)
#3 On The Money Red $3,050,431 349 $8,740 (Bennie's Big Red x Dolly Priest x Little Dick Priest)
#4 Fire Water Flit $2,567,668 302 $8,502 (Flit Bar x Slash J Harletta x Harlan)
#5 Dash For Perks $2,502,323 319 $7,844 (Dash For Cash x Perks x Easy Jet)
#6 Jet Of Honor $2,026,503 294 $6,893 (Jet Deck x Quincy Liz x Lightning Bar)
#7 BULLY BULLION $1,989,064 342 $5,816 (Special Effort x Mary Poppins x Bond Issue)
#8 Dr Nick Bar $1,875,343 176 $10,655 (Flit Bar x Este Tag x LEO TAG)
#9 Marthas Six Moons $1,739,482 162 $10,738 (Six Fols x Lady Bugs Martha x LADY BUG'S MOON)
#10 Cash Not Credit $1,515,554 155 $9,778 (Dash For Cash x Cute And Sassy x Azure Te (TB))
#11 Designer Red $1,052,355 91 $11,564 (On The Money Red x Pin A Rose On Me x Mr Jet Magic)
#12 Packin Sixes $1,020,250 86 $11,863 (Streakin Six x Copasetti x Three Oh's)
#13 PC Frenchmans Hayday $981,050 54 $18,168 ( x x )
#14 Judge Cash $847,682 131 $6,471 (Dash For Cash x Mary Mito x Mito Paint (TB))
#15 A Streak Of Fling $844,193 112 $7,537 (Streakin Six x Moon Fling x Fast Fling)
#16 Sticks An Stones $774,005 138 $5,609 (Easy Jet x Hop Skip And Jump x Tiny Charger)
#17 Nonstop Jet $772,408 88 $8,777 (Jet Deck x Princess Dial x Johnny Dial)
#18 Flaming Talent $654,048 44 $14,865 (Flaming Jet x Hy Talent x Talent Bar)
#19 Alive N Firen $651,252 70 $9,304 (Fire Water Flit x Whichwitch S Witch x Bugs Alive in 75)
#20 Smoke N Sparks $620,068 92 $6,740 (Dash For Perks x Crazy Daisy x SHAWNE BUG)
#21 Blazin Jetolena $615,324 65 $9,467 (Lenas Sugar Daddy x Blazin Jennie Jet x Jet Of Honor)
#22 Panama Edition $592,285 90 $6,581 (Panama Jet x Mary Wanna x Crasher (TB))
#23 Biebers Oakie $569,366 5 $113,873 ( x x )
#24 Dashin Is Easy $555,529 35 $15,872 (Mitey Easy Dash x Queenies Dash x Man In The Money)
#25 Shilabar Gold $550,210 8 $68,776 (Gold Finger Bar x Shilee x Jim Nance)
#26 Hot Colours $534,091 83 $6,435 (Special Effort x Little ViVi Go x Chick's Deck)
#27 Dashin Elvis $531,574 54 $9,844 (Dash For Cash x Erie Legend (TB) x Lake Erie (TB))
#28 Leaving Memories $520,542 83 $6,272 (First Down Dash x Sweet Blush x Hempen (TB))
#29 Runnerelse $511,325 72 $7,102 (Magnolia Bar x Buck's St Pat x Buck's Bar None)
#30 Down Home Dash $504,285 87 $5,796 (Victory Dash x Dimples Up x )
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 Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | dianeguinn - 2014-03-24 3:43 PM Well, I've come over to the dark side....I was one of the Hancock haters, but I bought a gorgeous 3 yr old bay roan that is out of an AWESOME race mare and he is one of the gentlest, smartest, most athletic horses I've ever owned. I just bought him to resell, but I'm liking him so much, I think he may have to stay at the Guinn house for awhile. www.allbreedpedigree.com/rafter+jet+jud
lol.... Just cause I can, I had to quote this... ;) Welcome to the other side DG! | |
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