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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Another thing the BLM did was set up a 'First Amendment Zone'! I know...Pres. Bush did this during war protests back when so they throw that in the faces of patriots now...major difference is the terrain, the area.
There were also 'snipers' in the hills, wearing BLM uniforms. Terrorists.
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| Nevada's Governor released a statement.
SANDOVAL STATEMENT ON BLM ROUNDUP
Contact
Tyler Klimas
(775) 684-5667
Las Vegas, NV - April 08, 2014
Governor Brian Sandoval made the following statement today:
“Due to the roundup by the BLM, my office has received numerous complaints of BLM misconduct, road closures and other disturbances. I have recently met with state legislators, county officials and concerned citizens to listen to their concerns. I have expressed those concerns directly to the BLM.”
“Most disturbing to me is the BLM’s establishment of a ‘First Amendment Area’ that tramples upon Nevadans’ fundamental rights under the U.S. Constitution. To that end, I have advised the BLM that such conduct is offensive to me and countless others and that the ‘First Amendment Area’ should be dismantled immediately. No cow justifies the atmosphere of intimidation which currently exists nor the limitation of constitutional rights that are sacred to all Nevadans. The BLM needs to reconsider its approach to this matter and act accordingly.”
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| There was a protest today and I believe it didn't go well. I think a man got tazed by a BLM worker, I'm sure it will be all over the news tonight. |
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| musikmaker - 2014-04-09 4:09 PM Another thing the BLM did was set up a 'First Amendment Zone'! I know...Pres. Bush did this during war protests back when so they throw that in the faces of patriots now...major difference is the terrain, the area.
There were also 'snipers' in the hills, wearing BLM uniforms. Terrorists.
Velcome to Amirika.
Seriously!? Zones!? I want them to show me where it specifies zones in the constitution. Whats next folks? 2nd amendment zones? |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Whiteboy - 2014-04-09 3:21 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-09 4:09 PM Another thing the BLM did was set up a 'First Amendment Zone'! I know...Pres. Bush did this during war protests back when so they throw that in the faces of patriots now...major difference is the terrain, the area.
There were also 'snipers' in the hills, wearing BLM uniforms. Terrorists.
Velcome to Amirika.
Seriously!? Zones!? I want them to show me where it specifies zones in the constitution. Whats next folks? 2nd amendment zones?
And...'installed' by uniforms who do not represent the people in any way as they are NOT elected, they have absolutely no authority or jurisdiction...just like a bully, it's all in what we allow. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Whiteboy - 2014-04-09 4:21 PM
musikmaker - 2014-04-09 4:09 PM Another thing the BLM did was set up a 'First Amendment Zone'! I know...Pres. Bush did this during war protests back when so they throw that in the faces of patriots now...major difference is the terrain, the area.
There were also 'snipers' in the hills, wearing BLM uniforms. Terrorists.
Velcome to Amirika.
Seriously!? Zones!? I want them to show me where it specifies zones in the constitution. Whats next folks? 2nd amendment zones?
We already have non-2nd amendment zones. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | I guess it shouldn't surprise me when people say "the fee is nominal...just pay it" or "Everyone else pays it..."...but, it does. At what point do we say "Enough!"?
If we stoop for this...we'll stoop forever...
I've read some comments on the online KSL news report out of Salt Lake and find the varying views interesting...and alarming. Alas...we've gotten to the point that if it doesn't affect us directly then we don't care. Very sad...the 'What's in it for me?' mentality. Our forefathers didn't think that way & they put together a Nation that can endure if we have the guts to keep it. What they envisioned did not include the various gov't agencies who have slowly & assuredly claimed authority they do not possess.
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Location: Utah | I've been watching this for a while now, and to tell you honestly I have very mixed emotions. On one had I think well he should have just paid, but then on the other I think well from what I've read they feel like they have paid for the grazing rights. I know that our town has a land company and land up the 2 canyons that feed into us. There have been permits taken from grazing up there, and I wonder when the "permits" will be taken away totally here. There was a post on FB last night by Randy Lewis, I believe. He made some good points, that this has been going on quietly for years and finally someone stood up and said "no". He also pointed out that if this becomes ok for cattle at what point will it be ok for our guns, or our children? At least that was my take on it. I don't really know the best way to try and articulate my thoughts. There are a lot of things that are happening in our country that really worry me.... they worry me for my future as well as that of my family & our country as a whole. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Snappy - 2014-04-09 6:11 PM I've been watching this for a while now, and to tell you honestly I have very mixed emotions. On one had I think well he should have just paid, but then on the other I think well from what I've read they feel like they have paid for the grazing rights. I know that our town has a land company and land up the 2 canyons that feed into us. There have been permits taken from grazing up there, and I wonder when the "permits" will be taken away totally here. There was a post on FB last night by Randy Lewis, I believe. He made some good points, that this has been going on quietly for years and finally someone stood up and said "no". He also pointed out that if this becomes ok for cattle at what point will it be ok for our guns, or our children? At least that was my take on it. I don't really know the best way to try and articulate my thoughts. There are a lot of things that are happening in our country that really worry me.... they worry me for my future as well as that of my family & our country as a whole.
I agree...ultimately, the Sheriff, as the elected official who represents the citizens directly, is the one who should be settling this...that is the most powerful position that a person acan hold and it's taken far too lightly by some. I sure hope some good comes out of this rather than more confusion and infighting. |
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| I've read everything out there about this situation, and I am still not sure what to make out of it. No doubt this gentleman "probably" is holding the moral high ground in this arguement. The government is not known for settling on the side of "right". He would probably have to write a book, to ever tell his side of the story. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | Um... WHAT!!?!?!?!?! arent they trying to save these darn things? from the cattle/horses??
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/25/government-plans-to-euthanize... |
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| He is going to be the next Ruby Ridge, Waco "nut job" and Americans will be more worried about American Idol and the Voice to even care.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Here is a facebook page to support Bundy
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| that video went from 350 views when I posted it to over 44,000 now. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | This is a statement from Staton & Charolette Gleave & sons:
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| I don't think people in the east can understand what it is like to run cattle in the west. Not really like leasing land from your neighbor! |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | river runner - 2014-04-10 5:29 AM I don't think people in the east can understand what it is like to run cattle in the west. Not really like leasing land from your neighbor!
If that's the case then they should just sit back and watch...that's the entire problem, people in the east believing they have a voice concerning our so-called 'public land' here in the west. Divide and conquer. In real life we don't get involved in issues we don't comprehend. What a mess, though...I live next to the future Red Rock Wilderness (if the enviro terrorists have their way) & getting support from like-minded folks is so hard cuz we're not brought up that way...yet, in order to maintain our Freedom, we need to fight fire with fire...it really goes against our grain to stick our nose where it doesn't belong...sure doesn't bother the 'other side' to cause all these problems, though! Lol... |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | musikmaker - 2014-04-09 7:39 PM I guess it shouldn't surprise me when people say "the fee is nominal...just pay it" or "Everyone else pays it..."...but, it does. At what point do we say "Enough!"?
If we stoop for this...we'll stoop forever...
I've read some comments on the online KSL news report out of Salt Lake and find the varying views interesting...and alarming. Alas...we've gotten to the point that if it doesn't affect us directly then we don't care. Very sad...the 'What's in it for me?' mentality. Our forefathers didn't think that way & they put together a Nation that can endure if we have the guts to keep it. What they envisioned did not include the various gov't agencies who have slowly & assuredly claimed authority they do not possess.
I agree. I am so sick and tired of people and even relatives that say - well it won't affect me, it's not my business. Oh yes it is. |
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