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Location: tennessee | 3 To Go - 2014-04-11 1:14 PM It's always a gamble when you breed one. Yes Slick himself is very nice and proven, but if his babies will be remains yet to be seen. (There have been other sires not produce near what they were - ie, Secretariat). His maternal line doesn't do much for me, but word is his mother was an outstanding jackpot horse and just didn't haul much which is why you haven't really heard of her. The better question to ask would be does he compliment the mare I am breeding? If you have a 14.3 hand stocky mare, he probably wouldn't be my first choice! Obviously his siring ability won't be know for many years down the road.
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I am breeding this 14.3 stocky mare to him.I think they will cross good. |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2014-04-10 9:07 AM Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 2:15 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 3:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap  WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit! 
I am not taking credit from good horses, by no means, but what I do mean is that to me, performance outweighs pedigree. Not all champions produce champions..so lets be real.. There are a lot of good performing horses that I have clocked myself that have had the ability to outperform "champions" but have never made it due to many other factors in the horse world...
Breeding thoroughbreds and even other horses, in the hopes of producing a champion has always been a gamble, causing more frustration than triumph. But every so often, the right combination of stallion and mare can produce a winner.
But the bottom line is, performance is always the true winner. I have track down for instance most of Secretariat’s breed line and you tell me exactly how many “champions” came after him, only 5 out of every 80 horses’ blood line have a good record. That number should tell you something REAL !!!
Like my grandma says, “The proof, is in the pudding” !!!
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| I'm breeding my Dash For Perks daughter to him. I think he's a pretty cool dude and a good investment. |
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| I think you need to get in on the deal while you can. I picked up a BARREL RACER magazine and in the ad for him it listed some pretty nice and well known mares that have bred to him this year. These mares are owned by people who will do something with the offspring. That in itself should make your offspring worth more. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Honeymoney - 2014-04-13 2:16 PM I think you need to get in on the deal while you can. I picked up a BARREL RACER magazine and in the ad for him it listed some pretty nice and well known mares that have bred to him this year. These mares are owned by people who will do something with the offspring. That in itself should make your offspring worth more.
I think you will only see his fee increase as well. As for the super mares being bred to him, I used to think that was a big deal, flipping through the ads in Speedhorse and seeing last yrs Champion filly's being bred to so and so...and now with embryo transfer that same mare can be bred to 6 different stallions. They can afford the gamble of letting them have one foal by new stallions and a few by older proven sires. |
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